INS Kamorta vs TCG Heybeliada

[spectribution]

This akcnowledged. As sidenote, I discussed the possibility that it is actually launched from those 533mm torpedo tubes (see another thread on the forum) rather than from VLS



No, the models shows 76mm Oto which is licenced produced in India. There is no VLS between the 2 RBU-6000. Rather, there is a barrier between them, for when they are each firing over a different bow. Much in the same way as on the Delhi and Shivalik and Kolkata classes. The RBU's auto-reload from a below deck magazine (hence the square in the aireal pic)

So it is launched by 533mm tube like submarine?

 

[Penguin]

TRISHUL: DEFEXPO 2012 Highlights

So it is launched by 533mm tube like submarine?

That is a possibility in the absense of any VLS for Klub.

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TRISHUL: DEFEXPO 2012 Highlights


That is a possibility in the absense of any VLS for Klub.

RPK-6 Vodopad/RPK-7 Veter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Indian jugaad zindabaad. I think this was done to make way for 2 RBU 6000.

TRISHUL: DEFEXPO 2012 Highlights


That is a possibility in the absense of any VLS for Klub.

RPK-6 Vodopad/RPK-7 Veter - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Any ways thanks for solving doubts.

 

[Penguin]

RPK-6 Vodopod/RPK-7 Veter with conventional 83R head (i.e. a 400mm ASW torpedo)

Klub 91RE missile

 

[spectribution]

RPK-6 Vodopod/RPK-7 Veter with conventional 83R head (i.e. a 400mm ASW torpedo)

Klub 91RE missile

Meaning technically Klub CAN fit in a 533mm tube? Unique way to launch AShM.

 

[Penguin]

Meaning technically Klub CAN fit in a 533mm tube? Unique way to launch AShM.

Well yes, there are two lines: Klub N (for surface ships, with VLS) and Klub-S for submarines, with torpedotubes. It stands to reason that you can also fire from surface ship mounted torpedotubes then. There are VLU modules available for insertion into subs, suggesting the opposite route.

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[LegionnairE]

Our anti-submarine ship is YTKB not MİLGEM

 

[Neptune]

Our anti-submarine ship is YTKB not MİLGEM

Yup and nope . it's not MILGEM it's Ada-class corvette whose role is ASW/Patrol primarily. Project MİLGEM includes the TF-2000 and TF-100.

 

[atatwolf]

They have slightly different specialization and purpose.

But head to head Milgem would get on top.

I hope Pakistan will get milgem.

 

[LegionnairE]

Yup and nope . it's not MILGEM it's Ada-class corvette whose role is ASW/Patrol primarily. Project MİLGEM includes the TF-2000 and TF-100.

yes yes, I was going to edit... smartass
YTKB has better ASW capabilities than Ada class and this will be the same with TF-2000 and TF-100. There won't be any ASW rocket launchers on either one of TF2000 is going to be a balanced heavy frigate(basically stretched version of ada class) and TF100 will be anti-air oriented. It'll carry SM2, SM3, Aster 30 whichever of those we manage to acquire...

I'm just saying this is a wrong comparison, Kamorta class has nothing on Ada class. All the following ships of the milgem class will have mk41 VLS. ESSM is a standard weapon. Nevermind the harpoons.

 

[Neptune]

yes yes, I was going to edit... smartass
YTKB has better ASW capabilities than Ada class and this will be the same with TF-2000 and TF-100. There won't be any ASW rocket launchers on either one of TF2000 is going to be a balanced heavy frigate(basically stretched version of ada class) and TF100 will be anti-air oriented. It'll carry SM2, SM3, Aster 30 whichever of those we manage to acquire...

yup, ı am the smartest ***
AFAIK, DZKK has retired most of the ASROCs from inventory. TF-2000 will be equipped with RIM-156A SM-2ER Block IV, decisions were taken around a year ago, they will never'n ever adopt a Chinese&Russian platform on naval systems, So Aster 30 may be will be chosen IF T-LORADMIS goes to France/Italy, there's a very little chance that they may go to PAAMS for the missile used on TF-2000, Because I doubt the navy would refuse SM-2ER, they won't at all.

 

[LegionnairE]

yup, ı am the smartest ***
AFAIK, DZKK has retired most of the ASROCs from inventory. TF-2000 will be equipped with RIM-156A SM-2ER Block IV, decisions were taken around a year ago, they will never'n ever adopt a Chinese&Russian platform on naval systems, So Aster 30 may be will be chosen IF T-LORADMIS goes to France/Italy, there's a very little chance that they may go to PAAMS for the missile used on TF-2000, Because I doubt the navy would refuse SM-2ER, they won't at all.

Of course not. But there's still a possibility for SM3 or Aster 30, a weak possibility but a possibility nevertheless.

This is YTKB:

 

[Neptune]

Of course not. But there's still a possibility for SM3 or Aster 30, a weak possibility but a possibility nevertheless.

This is YTKB:

Very good. But I think we could have generated it with a vertical launch system like what USN did to her ASROCs. BTW what's the name of the system you shared. Specs? Model?

 

[Penguin]

Very good. But I think we could have generated it with a vertical launch system like what USN did to her ASROCs. BTW what's the name of the system you shared. Specs? Model?

YTKB is a short range unguided rocket system, whereas asroc is intended to increase the range of use of ASW homing torpedoes by using a rocket to deliver the torpedo to the target area, where it will perform its search pattern. YTKB is probably in tended for light displacement vessel, which you would use closer to shore e.g. the shallow coastal waters and around islands. Intersting is that it might double as close in last ditch anti-torpedo weapon.

 

[Neptune]

YTKB is a short range unguided rocket system, whereas asroc is intended to increase the range of use of ASW homing torpedoes by using a rocket to deliver the torpedo to the target area, where it will perform its search pattern. YTKB is probably in tended for light displacement vessel, which you would use closer to shore e.g. the shallow coastal waters and around islands. Intersting is that it might double as close in last ditch anti-torpedo weapon.

Yes it is. But YTKB is not the ASW system produced by Roketsan. It's a FAC build by Dearsan to Turkish Naval Forces.