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the stats are from cia world factbook.

The Afghan Government role in this case is, if we says yes send them back, you can do it without any trouble.
but if we say no, and you force it, then you are trouble

really? You're really going to use CIA world factbook? After all that arguing all you have to show for it is this? Yeah, see, this is why I can't take anything you say seriously. Both the statistics are from bad sources.

Your sources are full of fail. If you want to prove your comments, please use third party sources.

As for the Afghan government having a role, they don't have any role. No one cares what the Afghan government thinks or says. It's being sidelined in negotiations between the US and Taliban for a reason.

I really don't like repeating myself. So I'm done, and this time I mean it.

good bye.
 
the stats are from cia world factbook.



So am i indian or afghan, i am a litle confused of your idea of my nationality :omghaha:
CIA IS NOTHING BUT A PURE TRASH WHERE WAS CIA WEN SO CALLED 9/11 HAPPENED ND SAUDIS RAMMED JETS IN WORLD TRADE CENTRES INSTEAD OF ATTACKING SAUDI ARABIA THESE AMERICANS ATTACKED AFGHANISTAN ND IRAQ WHICH HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING 2 DO WITH 9/11 WAT A JOKER UR ND NOW IN SYRIA SAUDI AGENTS USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS ON THE SYRIAN POPULATION SO THT THE SAUDIS ND AMERICANS CAN LATTER BLAME SYRIA ND PRESIDENT BASHAR AL ASSAD IT IS PROVEN NOW THT SAUDI AGENTS USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS IN SYRIA I EVEN HVE A VIDEO OF SAUDI AGENTS DELIVIRING CHEMICAL WEAPONS IN A MISSILE ND THEN FIRING IT ON SYRIAN POPULATION WAT A JOKE CIA. CIA IS NOTHING BUT THE BIGGEST LIAR OF THE WORLD WITH ISRAEL ND THT JEW WORSHIPPING COUNTRY AMERICA. THANKS[/QUOTE]

Can you turn capslock off? where were ISI, when CIA spied on a house in Abbotabad for over a year, and then cunducted a operation which killed your father? :blah:
 
CIA IS NOTHING BUT A PURE TRASH WHERE WAS CIA WEN SO CALLED 9/11 HAPPENED ND SAUDIS RAMMED JETS IN WORLD TRADE CENTRES INSTEAD OF ATTACKING SAUDI ARABIA THESE AMERICANS ATTACKED AFGHANISTAN ND IRAQ WHICH HAD ABSOLUTELY NOTHING 2 DO WITH 9/11 WAT A JOKER UR ND NOW IN SYRIA SAUDI AGENTS USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS ON THE SYRIAN POPULATION SO THT THE SAUDIS ND AMERICANS CAN LATTER BLAME SYRIA ND PRESIDENT BASHAR AL ASSAD IT IS PROVEN NOW THT SAUDI AGENTS USED CHEMICAL WEAPONS IN SYRIA I EVEN HVE A VIDEO OF SAUDI AGENTS DELIVIRING CHEMICAL WEAPONS IN A MISSILE ND THEN FIRING IT ON SYRIAN POPULATION WAT A JOKE CIA. CIA IS NOTHING BUT THE BIGGEST LIAR OF THE WORLD WITH ISRAEL ND THT JEW WORSHIPPING COUNTRY AMERICA. THANKS

Can you turn capslock off? where were ISI, when CIA spied on a house in Abbotabad for over a year, and then cunducted a operation which killed your father? :blah:[/QUOTE] BC IT WAS A DRAMA ND THERE WAS NO OSAMA BIN LADEN IN ABBOTABAD EVEN AMERICAN ND AMERICAN PEOPLE ND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS HVE REALIZED THIS BY NOW OSAMA DIED A NATURAL DEATH HE WAS SUFFERING FROM A KIDNEY FAILURE ND WAT HAPPENED AFTER ABBOTABAD DRAMA BY AMERICA ALL THE SO CALLED SEALS WHO TOOK PART IN THIS FAKE OPERATION ND KILLED PAKISTANIS WERE KILLED ND KNOCKED DOWN 33 AMERICAN SEALS DIED WHICH TOOK PART IN ABBOTABABD OPERATION ND 8 AFGHAN AMERICAN PUPPET ARMYMEN ALSO DIED IN IT WEN A AMERICAN HELICOPTER WAS SHOT DOWN IN EASTERN AFGHANISTAN.
 
Pakistan GDP nominal $1578, Afghanistan GDP nominal $1100+.
economically pakistan should have done better, shouldn't it?


You're clearly a fool who can't even understand basic data, not sure where you are getting GDP nominal is $1578 bn that is a 2007 figure, Pakistan's nominal GDP today is $231+ and GDP growth rate is closing in on 5% this year.
 
@Afghan-India

Your arguments are bad and bore me, I'm done.

Good bye, keep living in your little closed world, after all, ignorance is bliss.

In his ignorance , lies his solace


Why wake him up to reality and torture him psychologically ? Why shatter the myth of the " prosperous and peaceful Afghanistan for him " ? :D

As for the Afghan government having a role, they don't have any role. No one cares what the Afghan government thinks or says. It's being sidelined in negotiations between the US and Taliban for a reason.

The Govt of the Presidential Palace in Kabul ?

Couldn't even negotiate on its own .
 
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Three million Afghans to be expelled by December

ISLAMABAD:
Authorities have declared that they are unwilling to extend the stay of almost three million Afghans residing in Pakistan beyond December 2012.
In an exclusive interview with The Express Tribune on Monday, Habibullah Khan, the secretary for the Ministry of States and Frontier Regions (Safron), a body that deals with Afghan refugees, said that Pakistani and Afghan agencies are negotiating among each other on the repatriation of 2.7 million refugees.
Official statistics show that 1.7 million Afghans residing in Pakistan hold legal documents issued by local authorities. While around one million are residing here without any legal documentation.
It is reported that authorities are planning to launch a crackdown to expel all illegal refugees that the country hosted for over three decades.
“One million illegal refugees would be treated under the Foreign Act of 1946,” he said. “We plan to expel all the illegal refugees from the start of next year…there is no way that we can extend their stay here.”
Pakistan and Iran have been hosting refugees since the 1979 Russian invasion. The countries prepared a roadmap for the repatriation at a conference held in Geneva in May this year.
The three countries have been running the repatriation programme for Afghan refugees with the financial and technical assistance of the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR).
Statistics show there had been a consistent decline in the number of individuals returning to Afghanistan under a programme of voluntary repatriation assisted by the United Nations High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR). As many as 4.6 million Afghan refugees have been repatriated under the programme since it started in 2002.
The registered population living in Pakistan comprises 52.6% males and 47.4% females. Eighty-five per cent Afghans are Pakhtuns hailing from Nangarhar, Kabul, Kunduz, Logar, Paktia, Kandahar and Baghlan areas while the rest are Uzbeks and Tajiks.
Khyber-Pukhtunkhwa (K-P) hosts the largest of the refugee populace estimated at around 62.1%, followed by 20.3% in Balochistan, 11% in Punjab, 4.2% in Sindh, 2% in the federal capital and 0.4% in Azad Jammu and Kashmir (AJK).
The official figures revealed only 40.6% Afghans live in the villages or camps set up for the refugees while 59.4% are settled across Pakistan in both the rural and urban areas and earn livelihood through means other than funding by the United Nations.
In a survey conducted, 56% of the returnees are reported to be Pakhtuns. 26% of the refugees prefer Kabul as their most favoured destination followed by 20% who opted for Nangarhar.
According to Khan, Pakistan would allow students, vulnerable persons like unattended widows and orphans and some businessmen to stay here on their visa until they finish their pressing assignments.
Khan added that the Afghan authorities have expressed willingness to receive as many refugees from Pakistan as they can and hoped most would be leaving the country within the given deadline.
Published in The Express Tribune, July 18th, 2012.

You ain't got the balls to expel them, without the permission of Afghanistan, you know we have the international community behind us?[/QUOTE]


They are already being expelled haven't you seen the videos of truck loads returning home? Thousands have already been sent back to Afghanistan.


37,000 Afghan refugees return home - YouTube
 
Give them citizenship and get it over with.

Lets award everyone the nationality of Pakistan , the world over , in pursuance and keeping with the spirit and one sided love of the Ummah ! Cmon , mate . Honestly ?
 
Lets award everyone the nationality of Pakistan , the world over , in pursuance and keeping with the spirit and one sided love of the Ummah ! Cmon , mate . Honestly ?

And he himself will apply for nationality of ferangii country :omghaha:
 
And he himself will apply for nationality of ferangii country :omghaha:

Isn't that just how it works ? :azn:

The Mullah will curse the Americans and the Jews in his entire lifetime , bash the Govt for its unIslamic ways and urge the people to " help " their fellow " Muslim brothers " if they haven't helped them during worse times and yet we know , what happens if he's given a chance to obtain a green card ? :D

Ahh the Irony ! You see the great love of the Afghans here ? Well its the same in real world too . Indus the natural border , the delusions .
 
Three million Afghans to be expelled by December
You ain't got the balls to expel them, without the permission of Afghanistan, you know we have the international community behind us?

It is exactly what i'm trying to say, if you expel those without the Afghan goverment saying yes, Afghanistan and its allies will make a hell of a show at the UN.

Once again thank you - thank you - thank you.

Typical Afghan gratitude on display - and that from an educated Afghan who lives in the West.

Perhaps the allies that will make a hell of a show can settle the Afghan refugees? -- Oh btw, have you read the stories where Afghan interpreters who helped allied forces are being denied entry on those nations? I think that sets a good precedent that Pakistan can follow.

Although there is no need to unpack what he said let me make an attempt just incase Pakistanis are tone deaf.

If you (Pakistanis) kick us out of your home (Pakistan) we (Afghans) will go berserk -- I think we call such people: squatters
 
afghans should be kicked out they are the source of extortion, terrorism, and drug paddling in our country
 
Glad this kind of thinking doesn't prevail in the current government. You just want to give out Pakistani citizenship like it's candy, citizenship should mean something to you.

Do you have a better solution?

Lets award everyone the nationality of Pakistan , the world over , in pursuance and keeping with the spirit and one sided love of the Ummah ! Cmon , mate . Honestly ?

Not about Ummah - its about whats practical. I think, deporting Afghans enmass is going to be another human calamity that can just be prevented by a little more compassion. I am not saying that we should bring every refugee to allocate them the citizenship. However what i do believe is that those Afghans who are born and bread in Pakistan, and are living without proper legal documents should be legalized.
 
Do you have a better solution?

There is an international norm you know - Pakistanis get expelled everyday for overstaying their visas from the Americas, Europe, the Middle East, the Far East and even from Afghanistan where (in Afghanistan hundreds of Pakistanis are languishing in Afghan jails for visa violations).

Let's Deport them like all civilized countries do.
 
Deport them to KPK. We are A OK to deal with them. Then I'd like to visit A1, wherever he lives...... :woot:

Do you have a better solution?



Not about Ummah - its about whats practical. I think, deporting Afghans enmass is going to be another human calamity that can just be prevented by a little more compassion. I am not saying that we should bring every refugee to allocate them the citizenship. However what i do believe is that those Afghans who are born and bread in Pakistan, and are living without proper legal documents should be legalized.
 
Not about Ummah - its about whats practical. I think, deporting Afghans enmass is going to be another human calamity that can just be prevented by a little more compassion. I am not saying that we should bring every refugee to allocate them the citizenship. However what i do believe is that those Afghans who are born and bread in Pakistan, and are living without proper legal documents should be legalized.

At least there is something good you meant for the country . This isn't practical actually . Why run the country on emotions ? Why cant we expel them to be really honest ? Why should we carry the burden forever ? What exactly stops us ? Do we not know the kind of activities these people who do not consider this country " as their country " are involved in ? Are we really not aware of the " hate " that exists in their hearts ?

Answer me , my friend , have you ever talked to an Afghan living in Pakistan or the ones living on the other side of the Khyber Pass ?
 
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