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The Oxford sex ring and the preachers who teach young Muslim men that white girls are cheap

By Dr Taj Hargey

The terrible story of the Oxford child sex ring has brought shame not only on the city of dreaming spires, but also on the local Muslim community.

It is a sense of repulsion and outrage that I feel particularly strongly, working as a Muslim leader and Imam in this neighbourhood and trying to promote genuine cultural integration.

There is no doubt that the evil deeds of these men have badly set back the cause of cross-community harmony.

In its harrowing details, this grim saga of exploitation, misogyny, perversion and cruelty fills me not only with desperate sorrow for those girls and their families, but also with dread and despair.

If I were the judge in this case, I would hand out the harshest possible jail sentences to these monstrous predators, both to see that justice is done for their victims and to send out a message to other exploiters.

And when I say harsh, I mean it: none of this fashionable nonsense about prisoners being released only a quarter of the way through their sentences. There is no pattern of good conduct these men could follow behind bars that could possibly make up for all the terrible suffering they have inflicted on others.

Depravity

But apart from its sheer depravity, what also depresses me about this case is the widespread refusal to face up to its hard realities.

The fact is that the vicious activities of the Oxford ring are bound up with religion and race: religion, because all the perpetrators, though they had different nationalities, were Muslim; and race, because they deliberately targeted vulnerable white girls, whom they appeared to regard as ‘easy meat’, to use one of their revealing, racist phrases.

Indeed, one of the victims who bravely gave evidence in court told a newspaper afterwards that ‘the men exclusively wanted white girls to abuse’.

But as so often in fearful, politically correct modern Britain, there is a craven unwillingness to face up to this reality.


Commentators and poli-ticians tip-toe around it, hiding behind weasel words.

We are told that child sex abuse happens ‘in all communities’, that white men are really far more likely to be abusers, as has been shown by the fall-out from the Jimmy Savile case.

One particularly misguided commentary argued that the predators’ religion was an irrelevance, for what really mattered was that most of them worked in the night-time economy as taxi drivers, just as in the Rochdale child sex scandal many of the abusers worked in kebab houses, so they had far more opportunities to target vulnerable girls.

But all this is deluded nonsense. While it is, of course, true that abuse happens in all communities, no amount of obfuscation can hide the pattern that has been exposed in a series of recent chilling scandals, from Rochdale to Oxford, and Telford to Derby.

In all these incidents, the abusers were Muslim men, and their targets were under-age white girls.

Moreover, reputable studies show that around 26 per cent of those involved in grooming and exploitation rings are Muslims, which is around five times higher than the proportion of Muslims in the adult male population.

To pretend that this is not an issue for the Islamic community is to fall into a state of ideological denial.


But then part of the reason this scandal happened at all is precisely because of such politically correct thinking. All the agencies of the state, including the police, the social services and the care system, seemed eager to ignore the sickening exploitation that was happening before their eyes.

Terrified of accusations of racism, desperate not to undermine the official creed of cultural diversity, they took no action against obvious abuse.

Amazingly, the predators seem to have been allowed by local authority managers to come and go from care homes, picking their targets to ply them with drink and drugs before abusing them. You can be sure that if the situation had been reversed, with gangs of tough, young white men preying on vulnerable Muslim girls, the state’s agencies would have acted with greater alacrity.


Another sign of the cowardly approach to these horrors is the constant reference to the criminals as ‘Asians’ rather than as ‘Muslims’.

In this context, Asian is a completely meaningless term. The men were not from China, or India or Sri Lanka or even Bangladesh. They were all from either Pakistan or Eritrea, which is, in fact, in East Africa rather than Asia.


What united them in their outlook was their twisted, corrupt mindset, which bred their misogyny and racism.

If they had been real, genuine followers of Islam, they would not have dreamt of indulging in such vile crimes, for true Islam preaches respect for women and warns against all forms of sexual licence, including adultery and exploitation.

Contempt


By all accounts, this was not the version that these men heard in their mosques. On the contrary, they would have been drip-fed for years a far less uplifting doctrine, one that denigrates all women, but treats whites with particular contempt.

In the misguided orthodoxy that now prevails in many mosques, including several of those in Oxford, men are unfortunately taught that women are second-class citizens, little more than chattels or possessions over whom they have absolute authority.

That is why we see this growing, reprehensible fashion for segregation at Islamic events on university campuses, with female Muslim students pushed to the back of lecture halls.


There was a telling incident in the trial when it was revealed that one of the thugs heated up some metal to brand a girl, as if she were a cow. ‘Now, if you have sex with someone else, he’ll know that you belong to me,’ said this criminal, highlighting an attitude where women are seen as nothing more than personal property.

The view of some Islamic preachers towards white women can be appalling. They encourage their followers to believe that these women are habitually promiscuous, decadent and sleazy — sins which are made all the worse by the fact that they are kaffurs or non-believers.

Their dress code, from mini-skirts to sleeveless tops, is deemed to reflect their impure and immoral outlook. According to this mentality, these white women deserve to be punished for their behaviour by being exploited and degraded.


Brutish


On one level, most imams in the UK are simply using their puritanical sermons to promote the wearing of the hijab and even the burka among their female adherents. But the dire result can be the brutish misogyny we see in the Oxford sex ring.

For those of us who support effective and meaningful integration, it is dispiriting to see how little these criminals, several of them second-generation Britons, have been integrated into our society.

If they were possessed by the slightest sense of belonging or shared citizenship, they would have had some respect for the welfare of these girls.

Instead, they saw only people from an alien world with which they felt no connection. For them, there was no sense of kinship or solidarity for people in their neighbourhood who were not Muslims.

It is telling, though, that they never dared to target Muslim girls from the Oxford area.
They knew that they would be sought out by the girls’ families and ostracised by their community. But preying on vulnerable white girls had no such consequences — once again revealing how intimately race and religion are bound up with this case.

We will build a secure society only when we are all taught to have respect for one another, regardless of creed or colour.

Horror over this latest scandal should serve as a catalyst for a new approach, but change can take place only if we abandon the dangerous blinkers of political correctness and antiquated multiculturalism.

Read more and view mug shots of the perpetrators: The Oxford sex ring and the preachers who teach young Muslim men that white girls are cheap | Mail Online



Before dismissing the article as Islamophobic tripe and indulging in ad hominen, the author is a well regarded Imam and heads MECO, an organisation based in Oxford that seeks to promote tolerance within the Muslim community in the UK.

Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford


For those questioning the author's claims about mainstream Muslim clerics actively endorsing misogyny and the status of non Muslim women as 'sex slaves' for Muslim men, have a listen to comments by one of Egypt's celebrity clerics, popularly known as 'Lion of the Sunnah' on a popular television show..

Shaykh al-Huwayni Explains the Islamic Doctrine of Offensive Jihad and Taking Sex-Slaves - YouTube


Unless Muslims recognise the role of an arguably narrow but increasingly popular interpretation of their faith in fostering animosity among communities and undertake root and branch reform to address this, they will have no one else but themselves to blame for the rising tide of Islamophobia across the world.
 
Stupid europoors either go to easy or too hard. It's either tolerant hipsters or nazis right? Why cant you go the middle way? Be like USA or Canada
 
Well what do they expect, they grant asylums to all kinds of perverts, uhm uhm. Altaf is in England right. :D


Oh and please if you cant take care of them fookers, let us in we will dish out the justice Pakistani istyle, just dont roo dhoo kay hay human rights hai human rights.
 
The Oxford sex ring and the preachers who teach young Muslim men that white girls are cheap

By Dr Taj Hargey

The terrible story of the Oxford child sex ring has brought shame not only on the city of dreaming spires, but also on the local Muslim community.

It is a sense of repulsion and outrage that I feel particularly strongly, working as a Muslim leader and Imam in this neighbourhood and trying to promote genuine cultural integration.

There is no doubt that the evil deeds of these men have badly set back the cause of cross-community harmony.

In its harrowing details, this grim saga of exploitation, misogyny, perversion and cruelty fills me not only with desperate sorrow for those girls and their families, but also with dread and despair.

If I were the judge in this case, I would hand out the harshest possible jail sentences to these monstrous predators, both to see that justice is done for their victims and to send out a message to other exploiters.

And when I say harsh, I mean it: none of this fashionable nonsense about prisoners being released only a quarter of the way through their sentences. There is no pattern of good conduct these men could follow behind bars that could possibly make up for all the terrible suffering they have inflicted on others.

Depravity

But apart from its sheer depravity, what also depresses me about this case is the widespread refusal to face up to its hard realities.

The fact is that the vicious activities of the Oxford ring are bound up with religion and race: religion, because all the perpetrators, though they had different nationalities, were Muslim; and race, because they deliberately targeted vulnerable white girls, whom they appeared to regard as ‘easy meat’, to use one of their revealing, racist phrases.

Indeed, one of the victims who bravely gave evidence in court told a newspaper afterwards that ‘the men exclusively wanted white girls to abuse’.

But as so often in fearful, politically correct modern Britain, there is a craven unwillingness to face up to this reality.


Commentators and poli-ticians tip-toe around it, hiding behind weasel words.

We are told that child sex abuse happens ‘in all communities’, that white men are really far more likely to be abusers, as has been shown by the fall-out from the Jimmy Savile case.

One particularly misguided commentary argued that the predators’ religion was an irrelevance, for what really mattered was that most of them worked in the night-time economy as taxi drivers, just as in the Rochdale child sex scandal many of the abusers worked in kebab houses, so they had far more opportunities to target vulnerable girls.

But all this is deluded nonsense. While it is, of course, true that abuse happens in all communities, no amount of obfuscation can hide the pattern that has been exposed in a series of recent chilling scandals, from Rochdale to Oxford, and Telford to Derby.

In all these incidents, the abusers were Muslim men, and their targets were under-age white girls.

Moreover, reputable studies show that around 26 per cent of those involved in grooming and exploitation rings are Muslims, which is around five times higher than the proportion of Muslims in the adult male population.

To pretend that this is not an issue for the Islamic community is to fall into a state of ideological denial.


But then part of the reason this scandal happened at all is precisely because of such politically correct thinking. All the agencies of the state, including the police, the social services and the care system, seemed eager to ignore the sickening exploitation that was happening before their eyes.

Terrified of accusations of racism, desperate not to undermine the official creed of cultural diversity, they took no action against obvious abuse.

Amazingly, the predators seem to have been allowed by local authority managers to come and go from care homes, picking their targets to ply them with drink and drugs before abusing them. You can be sure that if the situation had been reversed, with gangs of tough, young white men preying on vulnerable Muslim girls, the state’s agencies would have acted with greater alacrity.


Another sign of the cowardly approach to these horrors is the constant reference to the criminals as ‘Asians’ rather than as ‘Muslims’.

In this context, Asian is a completely meaningless term. The men were not from China, or India or Sri Lanka or even Bangladesh. They were all from either Pakistan or Eritrea, which is, in fact, in East Africa rather than Asia.


What united them in their outlook was their twisted, corrupt mindset, which bred their misogyny and racism.

If they had been real, genuine followers of Islam, they would not have dreamt of indulging in such vile crimes, for true Islam preaches respect for women and warns against all forms of sexual licence, including adultery and exploitation.

Contempt


By all accounts, this was not the version that these men heard in their mosques. On the contrary, they would have been drip-fed for years a far less uplifting doctrine, one that denigrates all women, but treats whites with particular contempt.

In the misguided orthodoxy that now prevails in many mosques, including several of those in Oxford, men are unfortunately taught that women are second-class citizens, little more than chattels or possessions over whom they have absolute authority.

That is why we see this growing, reprehensible fashion for segregation at Islamic events on university campuses, with female Muslim students pushed to the back of lecture halls.


There was a telling incident in the trial when it was revealed that one of the thugs heated up some metal to brand a girl, as if she were a cow. ‘Now, if you have sex with someone else, he’ll know that you belong to me,’ said this criminal, highlighting an attitude where women are seen as nothing more than personal property.

The view of some Islamic preachers towards white women can be appalling. They encourage their followers to believe that these women are habitually promiscuous, decadent and sleazy — sins which are made all the worse by the fact that they are kaffurs or non-believers.

Their dress code, from mini-skirts to sleeveless tops, is deemed to reflect their impure and immoral outlook. According to this mentality, these white women deserve to be punished for their behaviour by being exploited and degraded.


Brutish


On one level, most imams in the UK are simply using their puritanical sermons to promote the wearing of the hijab and even the burka among their female adherents. But the dire result can be the brutish misogyny we see in the Oxford sex ring.

For those of us who support effective and meaningful integration, it is dispiriting to see how little these criminals, several of them second-generation Britons, have been integrated into our society.

If they were possessed by the slightest sense of belonging or shared citizenship, they would have had some respect for the welfare of these girls.

Instead, they saw only people from an alien world with which they felt no connection. For them, there was no sense of kinship or solidarity for people in their neighbourhood who were not Muslims.

It is telling, though, that they never dared to target Muslim girls from the Oxford area.
They knew that they would be sought out by the girls’ families and ostracised by their community. But preying on vulnerable white girls had no such consequences — once again revealing how intimately race and religion are bound up with this case.

We will build a secure society only when we are all taught to have respect for one another, regardless of creed or colour.

Horror over this latest scandal should serve as a catalyst for a new approach, but change can take place only if we abandon the dangerous blinkers of political correctness and antiquated multiculturalism.

Read more and view mug shots of the perpetrators: The Oxford sex ring and the preachers who teach young Muslim men that white girls are cheap | Mail Online



Before dismissing the article as Islamophobic tripe and indulging in ad hominen, the author is a well regarded Imam and heads MECO, an organisation based in Oxford that seeks to promote tolerance within the Muslim community in the UK.

Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford


For those questioning the author's claims about mainstream Muslim clerics actively endorsing misogyny and the status of non Muslim women as 'sex slaves' for Muslim men, have a listen to comments by one of Egypt's celebrity clerics, popularly known as 'Lion of the Sunnah' on a popular television show..

Shaykh al-Huwayni Explains the Islamic Doctrine of Offensive Jihad and Taking Sex-Slaves - YouTube


Unless Muslims recognise the role of an arguably narrow but increasingly popular interpretation of their faith in fostering animosity among communities and undertake root and branch reform to address this, they will have no one else but themselves to blame for the rising tide of Islamophobia across the world.

The most annoying part is they call these people "Asian men".As if they had some Pan Asian connection.This has nothing to do with they being Asians.In fact, its an insult to other Asian communities.Just call the spade a spade.
 
The Oxford sex ring and the preachers who teach young Muslim men that white girls are cheap

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$tupid heading.

So tomorrow you find a sex ring of 5 blacks, would you then go around and post this?

---- Young blacks [are] taught that white girls are cheap


So tomorrow you find a sex ring of 2 Hindus, would you then go around and post this?

---- Young Hindus [are] taught that white girls are cheap


So tomorrow you find a sex ring of 3 Sikhs, would you then go around and post this?

---- Young Sikhs [are] taught that white girls are cheap


I mean a criminal is a criminal. His religion should not be used to blacken all of them who follow that religion.


So please prove you are an educated person, and delete/ or change the heading.


This is terrible terrible way to post news.


peace
 
$tupid heading.

So tomorrow you find a sex ring of 5 blacks, would you then go around and post this?

---- Young blacks [are] taught that white girls are cheap


So tomorrow you find a sex ring of 2 Hindus, would you then go around and post this?

---- Young Hindus [are] taught that white girls are cheap


So tomorrow you find a sex ring of 3 Sikhs, would you then go around and post this?

---- Young Sikhs [are] taught that white girls are cheap


I mean a criminal is a criminal. His religion should not be used to blacken all of them who follow that religion.


So please prove you are an educated person, and delete/ or change the heading.


This is terrible terrible way to post news.


peace

If you cared to open the link you'd have realised that the title is taken from the original article, which incidentally is authored not by any old Islamophobe but a prominent UK based Muslim cleric.

As far as the religious background of the abusers being irrelevant, I thought the whole point of the article was to draw the link between bigoted teachings of a particular brand of Islam and a consistent pattern of grooming and abuse of vulnerable children by groups of Muslim youth, who appear to consider non Muslim females regardless of age as 'fair game', in several parts of the country in recent years. Such incidents of organised grooming by Muslim, primarily Pakistani, gangs have become so widespread that police forces in the North West recently launched targeted operations to tackle the menace, with 30 arrests of suspected groomers/abusers made in Rochdale in the last fortnight alone.

In the past month, two such gangs have been successfully prosecuted but the scale of this particular crime is truly staggering according to the police- the Telford gang were conviced last month on the basis of evidence from possibly half a dozen witnesses but the real number of victims was reportedly closer to a hundred. Many were too intimidated by their abusers to give evidence and the traumatising nature of the court process itself often discourages potential witnesses from coming forward. Also, all these incidents have involved victims being driven to various parts of the country to be abused by hundreds of men so this is not a problem limited to a few pervs operating in small groups.

Based on testimonies from the police and Social Services, many such gangs continue to operate with impunity in various parts of the country due to a culture of secrecy within the Muslim community, with some allegedly still in existence on Cowley Road (where most of the miniscule Muslim/Pakistani community in Oxford reside) where the Oxford gang in question hailed from.

What is most disturbing in all this is the response of the wider Muslim community to these crimes which, bar a few notable exceptions like Dr Hargey, seems to be characterised by silence, denial or, worse still, accusations of a wider conspiracy to malign the faith. It is then left to the rest of us 'Asians' to bear the brunt of public anger and distrust that such crimes quite understandably generate.

Listen to the first hour of the Nihal Show (use a UK based proxy if the link doesn't work) to see what I mean by denial of the problem by the Muslim community, including those who actually live on Cowley Road..

BBC Asian Network - Nihal, Oxford Grooming
 
Well what do they expect, they grant asylums to all kinds of perverts, uhm uhm. Altaf is in England right. :D


Oh and please if you cant take care of them fookers, let us in we will dish out the justice Pakistani istyle, just dont roo dhoo kay hay human rights hai human rights.

Aslan,many members of the Oxford gang were described as belonging to 'well to do, respectable families', were married with kids of their own. I am not claiming that these individuals are representative of the entire Muslim community but as cited in the article, there is an 5 fold overrepresentation of Muslims, particularly Pakistanis, in cases of organised paedophilia in the UK and most of those involved are born and raised in this country. There is likely to have been little difference in the cultural/socio-economic background of their parents and, say, someone from Indian Punjab, but you don't hear of Indian Hindu/Sikh gangs preying on vulnerable white children (plus the fact that the Indian diaspora has vastly outperformed those from the rest of the sub continent in all respects). The only independent variable that distinguishes the two groups is religion which, possibly on the back of the Saudi brand Wahabbi Islam, appears to engender extreme misogynist attitudes and contempt for the infidel in the eyes of some Muslim men.

I do agree with your latter point about dishing out desi style punishments to those involves in this- unfortunately, most get between 10-18 years and will likely be released half way through their sentences for 'exceptional behaviour'. The best hope the public have of proportionate punishment in these cases are a few dropped soaps in the prison shower..
 
Anyone who understands and acknowledges the link between these crimes and MCP attitude of looking at women as property, inferior to men, men must protect own property but others' property is fair game etc etc would know its cultural and religious aspects.

I mean how many times on the forum itself we have seen macho men brag about their exploits but these same people will kill the man who even looks at their sisters or wives?
 
The most annoying part is they call these people "Asian men".As if they had some Pan Asian connection.This has nothing to do with they being Asians.In fact, its an insult to other Asian communities.Just call the spade a spade.

;) Indian fashion designer and his sexual abuse of white girls ahem american girls /teens/kids in US


Indian-American fashion designer Anand Jon, facing a 59 years prison sentence in California for sexually abusing aspiring models, has pleaded guilty in a federal court here to molesting a woman whom he allegedly lured with promise of modelling work.

Jon admitted to one count of criminal sexual act in Manhattan Supreme Court on Thursday and was sentenced to five years under a plea deal reached with federal prosecutors.

The Kerala-born celebrity fashion designer was arrested in 2007 in California on charges he preyed upon seven young aspiring models, some as young as 14 and sexually assaulted them. He is currently serving 59 years to life in prison in California.

In a plea deal reached with federal prosecutors here, Jon pleaded guilty to one count of criminal sexual act against one aspiring female model.

In turn, Manhattan prosecutors dropped almost their entire case against him. He had initially been charged with preying on a dozen women in a 49-count indictment in New York.

Assistant District Attorney Maxine Rosenthal told a judge that the deal was accepted “to spare the victims from having to testify at multiple proceedings” and in consideration of his lengthy sentence in California.

Ms. Rosenthal said Jon is facing similar charges in Texas. The New York prison time of five years amounts to time served in California, which means no additional years will be added to his California sentence of 59 years to life.

Jon had launched a fashion line in 1999 and was featured on ‘America’s Next Top Model’ working with celebrities such as socialite Paris Hilton. His designs have been worn by media mogul Oprah Winfrey and singer Janet Jackson.

Jon’s attorney said after the plea that he admitted to the crime so he could get evidence and materials from New York prosecutors needed to “effectively overturn his California conviction.”

“Considering the initial 49 charges included allegations of rape, drugging and mafia death threats, the settlement of one conviction involving Alexander’s giving oral sex to an adult female was acceptable,” they said in a statement.

They said some of the materials turned over by Manhattan prosecutors as part of the pre-trial process would be crucial as he continues work on his California appeal


Designer Anand Jon admits to molesting model - The Hindu
 
;) Indian fashion designer and his sexual abuse of white girls ahem american girls /teens/kids in US


Indian-American fashion designer Anand Jon, facing a 59 years prison sentence in California for sexually abusing aspiring models, has pleaded guilty in a federal court here to molesting a woman whom he allegedly lured with promise of modelling work.

This is what you told me the other day in THIS thread.

Allah tells us in Quran that munafiqeen and kufar always quotes half the statements to suit their agenda just like you did.

Now, what are you doing? Did that fashion designer do that in the name of religion? Or did anybody say "Young Hindus/Indians taught that white girls are cheap"??
 
;) Indian fashion designer and his sexual abuse of white girls ahem american girls /teens/kids in US


Indian-American fashion designer Anand Jon, facing a 59 years prison sentence in California for sexually abusing aspiring models, has pleaded guilty in a federal court here to molesting a woman whom he allegedly lured with promise of modelling work.

Jon admitted to one count of criminal sexual act in Manhattan Supreme Court on Thursday and was sentenced to five years under a plea deal reached with federal prosecutors.

The Kerala-born celebrity fashion designer was arrested in 2007 in California on charges he preyed upon seven young aspiring models, some as young as 14 and sexually assaulted them. He is currently serving 59 years to life in prison in California.

In a plea deal reached with federal prosecutors here, Jon pleaded guilty to one count of criminal sexual act against one aspiring female model.

In turn, Manhattan prosecutors dropped almost their entire case against him. He had initially been charged with preying on a dozen women in a 49-count indictment in New York.

Assistant District Attorney Maxine Rosenthal told a judge that the deal was accepted “to spare the victims from having to testify at multiple proceedings” and in consideration of his lengthy sentence in California.

Ms. Rosenthal said Jon is facing similar charges in Texas. The New York prison time of five years amounts to time served in California, which means no additional years will be added to his California sentence of 59 years to life.

Jon had launched a fashion line in 1999 and was featured on ‘America’s Next Top Model’ working with celebrities such as socialite Paris Hilton. His designs have been worn by media mogul Oprah Winfrey and singer Janet Jackson.

Jon’s attorney said after the plea that he admitted to the crime so he could get evidence and materials from New York prosecutors needed to “effectively overturn his California conviction.”

“Considering the initial 49 charges included allegations of rape, drugging and mafia death threats, the settlement of one conviction involving Alexander’s giving oral sex to an adult female was acceptable,” they said in a statement.

They said some of the materials turned over by Manhattan prosecutors as part of the pre-trial process would be crucial as he continues work on his California appeal


Designer Anand Jon admits to molesting model - The Hindu

If it bothers you that an indian has posted this thread, you should say it openly. However, if you intend to justify these muslims, one can only say, everyone who justifies this should be burned alive.
 
This is happening not just in uk but across Europe. In France it is Algerian, in Belgium it is Moroccan men and so on. The reform must come from inside their communities.
 
If it bothers you that an indian has posted this thread, you should say it openly. However, if you intend to justify these muslims, one can only say, everyone who justifies this should be burned alive.

This is what you told me the other day in THIS thread.



Now, what are you doing? Did that fashion designer do that in the name of religion? Or did anybody say "Young Hindus/Indians taught that white girls are cheap"??

Before opening your mouth it will be better to read what i posted and in reply to which post.

1. I did not quote selected part rather i quoted and posted the entire news items with all the information even highlighted the offenses which were dropped against the Indian culprit after he accepted the crime.

2. I posted that in reply to an Indian member who said "Why paint all as Asians" please name specifically aka name them as Pakistanis i just posted the other side of the other Asiana aka Indians.
 
Before opening your mouth it will be better to read what i posted and in reply to which post.

1. I did not quote selected part rather i quoted and posted the entire news items with all the information even highlighted the offenses which were dropped against the Indian culprit after he accepted the crime.

2. I posted that in reply to an Indian member who said "Why paint all as Asians" please name specifically aka name them as Pakistanis i just posted the other side of the other Asiana aka Indians.

Heck...what's the big deal!? I'll post an entire newspaper about cooking and weather forecasts which is not related to this thread and which is what you have exactly done. The topic is about young muslims being taught stupid things. And you post some non sense about an Indian as if the topic at hand will get automatically justified!!?? What kind of a bigot does that?
 
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