Military Related Questions

[EagleEyes]

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[mohammadkhan70]

Assalam Alikum

Does anyone know the # of fighter jets that India and Pakistan have.

 

[EagleEyes]

Thank you for using this thread.

Well, there isn't always an accurate answer for this, but if you add up all these, you might get the estimate number.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pakistan_Air_Force

Third number is the current aircrafts number.

Pakistan Air Force Aircraft Fleet Aircraft Inducted Attrition Current Role
Lockheed Martin F-16A Block-15 30* 6 24* Multi-Role
Lockheed Martin F-16B Block-15 12 2 11 Training & Multi-Role
Chengdu F-7PG 48 2 55 Interceptor
Chengdu FT-7PG 9 0 9 Training
Chengdu F-7MP Skybolt 120 30? 155 Interceptor & Ground-Support
Chengdu FT-7P Skybolt 15 ?? ~15 Training
Dassault Mirage ROSE-I (Mirage-IIIEA) (Refurbished: Ex-Australian) 32 4 28 Interceptor
Dassault Mirage ROSE-I (Mirage-IIIDP) 5 1 4 Training & Interceptor
Dassault Mirage ROSE-II (Mirage-VEF) (Refurbished: Ex-French) 19 3 16 Strike & Ground-Support
Dassault Mirage ROSE-II (Mirage-VDF) (Refurbished: Ex-French) 6 0 6 Training & Strike & Ground-Support
Dassault Mirage ROSE-III (Mirage-VEF) (Refurbished: Ex-French) 14 0 14 Precision Strike
Dassault Mirage-IIIEP 18 6 16 Interceptor & Ground-Support
Dassault Mirage-IIIEL (Refurbished: Ex-Lebanese) 10+1DP 0 11 Interceptor & Ground-Support
Dassault Mirage-IIIDA (Refurbished: Ex-Australian) 7 0 7 Training
Dassault Mirage-IIIRP 13 3 12 Reconnaissance
Dassault Mirage-VPA3 12 3 9 Naval Support
Dassault Mirage-VPA2 18 3 30 Ground Support
Dassault Mirage-VPA 28 7? 28 Ground Support
Dassault Mirage-VDPA2 2 0 30 Training
Dassault Mirage-V (Refurbished: Ex-Libyan?!) ? ? 10+??
Nanchang Q-5/A-5C 52 12+ 48 Ground-Support & Tactical Strike (Currently being phased out).
Chengdu FT-6 ~15 ?? 15 Fighter Conversion (Advanced Jet Training)
Chengdu FT-5 ~20 ?? 25 Fighter Conversion (Advanced Jet Training)
Hondgu K-8 12 0 12 + (27 on order) Basic & Intermediate Jet Training
Cessna T-37 20 ?? 20+ Basic Jet Training
Super Mushak MFI-395 20 ?? 20+ Primary Training
Mushak MFI-17 80 ?? 80+ Primary Training
Falcon DA-20 2 0 2 ELINT/ECM
Lockheed Martin C-130B/E 16 6? 30 Medium-Lift Transport
Antonov An-26 'Curl' 1 0 1 Medium-Lift Transport
CN-235 4 0 4 V.I.P & Light-Lift Transport
HAMC Y-12(II) 1 0 1 Light-Lift Transport
Boeing 707 3 0 3 VIP Transport
Fokker F-27 200 2 0 2 Light Transport
Falcon-20 1 0 1 VIP Transport
Super King Air 1 0 1 Light Transport
L-100 1 0 1 Light Transport

 

[Janbaz]

Assalam Alikum

Does anyone know the # of fighter jets that India and Pakistan have.

PAF has about 350, which include F-7, F-16, A-5, Mirage III and V while India flies around 700 composed of Mig-21, 23, 27 and 29 plus Mirage 2000, Sukhoi 30 MKI, Stepcat Jaguar and a few Mig 25 Foxbat's.

 

[Janbaz]

I myself have a question? Isn't there an advanced Air to Air missile instead of AMRAAM compatible with F-16 to directly counter the MKI's as it is a medium range Air to Air missile rather than a long range one?

 

[Neo]

a few Mig 25 Foxbat's.

To my knowledge the Foxbat has been retired earlier this year. I believe eight were bought from Mikoyan Mig in early seventies.

 

[EagleEyes]

I myself have a question? Isn't there an advanced Air to Air missile instead of AMRAAM compatible with F-16 to directly counter the MKI's as it is a medium range Air to Air missile rather than a long range one?

AIM-54 Phonenix ALRAAM was used by USN, but it is now retired. It was a pretty good long range air to air missile, and stayed active for a long period of time.

And the below AIM-154 are used by stealth bombers. Considering the massive load it has, may be Pakistan doesn't have any aircrafts to carry them.

AIM-154 "Anaconda" ALRAAM air-to-air missile. 50-pound Thermium Nitrate warhead, 150-mile range, ramjet engine, active-passive radar/IR guidance, max speed Mach 5, 6,000 lbs.

However, i would like to know this as well.

 

[EagleEyes]

More Cobras that we have ordered. Are they going to be the latest version. AH-1Z??

 

[blain2]

More Cobras that we have ordered. Are they going to be the latest version. AH-1Z??

No Pakistan will stick with AH-1Fs. The F and the Z are essentially two different aircraft. Price wise too it makes sense for Pakistan to take over surplus 1Fs and modernize them with newer TOW-2B ATGMs and C-NITE etc., instead of going for brand new AH-1Zs.

 

[blain2]

I myself have a question? Isn't there an advanced Air to Air missile instead of AMRAAM compatible with F-16 to directly counter the MKI's as it is a medium range Air to Air missile rather than a long range one?

The medium/Longe range missile is essentially in the same league of things. AIM-120D is the longer range solution. Part of the problem with very long range missiles (aside from issues like the size and weight of missile) is the difficulty with IFF at very long stand off ranges. Throughout the history of BVR combat, the kills at closer ranges with BVR missiles have exceeded those at extended, longer ranges...so things may change in the future with very long ranging effective BVRAAMs, but for now, expect to see missiles in the range of 70 -150km range. Technically anything beyond 20NM or so is BVR, so I believe if you have an F-16 armed with a decent AIM-120 variant and has good SA due to some other long range AEW/OTH detection capability then the missile can be used to good affect against aircraft like MKI etc.

 

[Janbaz]

Another question:
How much of a better performer is the Apache Longbow compared to the Cobra's in Pakistan Army's aviation arm. We all know the Apache is a real possibility in the future and is it the best helicopter there is?

 

[Keysersoze]

Another question:
How much of a better performer is the Apache Longbow compared to the Cobra's in Pakistan Army's aviation arm. We all know the Apache is a real possibility in the future and is it the best helicopter there is?

Best is a fluid term in this regards.AH-64D's are a capable platform , However the are very costly (I believe they are 35 mil!). And they are very high maintenance. There are platforms that would do what is required, yet at the same time will not cost the same as the price of a Longbow (and have the technical and embargo issues)

 

[blain2]

Another question:
How much of a better performer is the Apache Longbow compared to the Cobra's in Pakistan Army's aviation arm. We all know the Apache is a real possibility in the future and is it the best helicopter there is?

You know I could be proven wrong here but I think it will be a real mistake on the part of PAA to invest in something such as AH-64s. I am not convinced that PAA assets will have complete freedom of operation in a future war to be able to operate expensive assets like AH-64s without the threat of being shot down by combat aircraft....as such it makes sense to invest in cheaper, but sufficiently effective, platform like AH-1Fs...possibly upgraded to be able to use Hellfire ATGMs in order to double the range which can be done and was offered as a capability upgrade for the PAA AH-1Fs recently. This would allow considerable enhancement to Pakistan's anti-armour capability.

 

[urooj2cool]

Salaam everyone..
me just new to dis website community.
well i want to know about the specifications and requirements for joining an airforce college in pakistan.as in, what subjects do i need or what grade do i hafta pass before i can join a PAF college?Right now me studyin in a high school..and i would like to come to pakistan and join airforce and become a GD pilot..or a fighter pilot..
i tried finding this info everywhere on the internet but failed to find it.so please help me with this.
Thank you.
:army:

 

[Muradk]

I think we have a lot of info on joining PAF here just have to find it.