Mumbai Attacks

[gpit]

Yes Gpit, I am extremely jealous how China and Japan are such good friends, or how China and Taiwan are best buddies.

No need to get cocky - I know too much about the sad, violent history of your country to fall for that.

Now it's my turn to admire you.

China has settled all land disputes with its neighbors except India. India settles no land dispute with any of its neighbors.

There are still territorial disputes between China and its neighbors, but the progress is evident, excluding India. That's how things are moving in right direction for China.

The Chinese do have issues with the Japanese in their denial of their historical atrocities. Yet, many Chinese also believe they have many to learn from Japan. As far as mainland and taiwan is concerned, it won't leave you un-disappointed if you know the stories.

Yes, China had violence in its history. How admirable that you compare it with India's violent present!

 

[daredevil]

this shows, how much "intelligent" and "smart" u r!!

come on, this is shoab akhter, the most controversial man in the sub continent, hes running lose in all the things!!!, he seeks bollywood more than his carrer!!, he likes indian night clubs, and hangs around with indian girls, two indian girls at a tym, under his shoulders.

So what?. He is a Muslim.

 

[Flintlock]

Yes, China had violence in its history. How admirable that you compare it with India's violent present!

Oh so China is peaceful now, is it?

Forgotten Tibet already?

I'm reading about riots against the police and the administration almost every other day in China - and that's just the stuff that gets reported.

And lets not mention the violence perpetrated by the State.

P.S. Change that American flag to the red one.

 

[Imran Khan]

India has provided list of three, says Malik



By Syed Irfan Raza

ISLAMABAD, Dec 4: The government confirmed on Thursday that India had given a list of three persons allegedly involved in the Mumbai carnage.

“India has given us three names and demanded stern action against them,” the adviser to the prime minister on interior, Rehman Malik, told a press conference.

Asked if the government was contemplating any action on the list of the 20 accused reportedly handed over by India through Pakistan’s ambassador in New Delhi, the adviser said there was no such list. “Only three names have been given. They are Indian nationals Dawood Ibrahim and Tiger Memon, and a Pakistani, Maulana Masood Azhar.”

Mr Malik said that Dawood Ibrahim and Tiger Memon were not in Pakistan, while the government could not take any action against Maulana Masood Azhar unless evidence was provided by India against him.

In response to a question about reports that the ISI chief would send his representatives to India, the adviser said: “I have seen the letter sent by India. It does not mention any Pakistani official required to visit India for information-sharing,” he said.

“India has not asked Pakistan in writing for sending the ISI chief to India. In the letter the Indian government has only asked us to cooperate and share information,” the adviser said.

In reply to a question about fears of an air strike by Delhi on the headquarters of Lashkar-i-Taiba, the adviser said there was no possibility of such attacks. “We do not expect such action from India as the two countries are trying their level best to bring normalcy in their relations,” he said.

On the other hand, the Indian government has accused the ISI of involvement in the Mumbai attacks, claiming that terrorists were from Pakistan.

However, Pakistan has rejected India’s claim, saying it had no direct or indirect link with the incident. “Non-state actors” could have been involved in the attacks, it has contended all along.

Mr Malik denied that Pakistan had handed over a list of suspects to India for extradition. “I have no knowledge of any list handed over to India for extradition.”

He condemned the Mumbai carnage, terming it a conspiracy by terrorists to cause a war-like situation.

“I praise the leadership of the two counties for foiling the nefarious designs of terrorists.”

The adviser assured India of full support in investigating the tragedy and said the culprits must be brought to justice.

 

[Vinod2070]

May be the one on the terrorist's hands had faded in color over a period.

 

[SMIQBAL]

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[daredevil]

10 Terrorist VS 1200 Forcemen – Joke of the Century.

10 Terrorist VS 1200 Forcemen - JOKE OF THE CENTURY:
Theory of Terrorism:
Procurement of Terrorists - Violence/Terror - Terror Theatre - Motive dissemination - Impact on public at large. What happened in Mumbai, please see: - 9 incidents at nine different places require nine groups of at least 10/12 trained terrorists. Means there should have been 90 to 100 boys hired from Hindu Militant Org. and Hindu under world force. One group operates for one incident.After execution the group loose its mental visions and start committing blunders.Siege of Hotel Taj and Oberae require atleast 15/20 persons. Jews Narimanhouse seige, 100 days grocerries with liquor purchased by residents. six story building in thickly populated area.Three Terror Theatres for 60 hours Taj, Obeare and Narimahouse.Only in three incidents terrorist took hostage, in other
six incidents, escape was successful and they have holed up in Mumbai means gone back to their mother organizations/under world. These should be 50 to 60 persons with vehicles, communication apparatus.The use of merchant ship and hijacking of fishing vessel by intruders is not acceptable to common sense. The killing of ATS DIG Hemant Karkare with two Additional police commissioners prove the involvement of Indian State Actors and blame game is as usual as it was in case of Samjhota Express and Mealegaon attacks.The terrorists were not muslims. If they could be muslims they were in a position to allow muslims guest in Hotel to go as they allowed foreigners so 95 muslims were killed in violence. Indian story is a bolly wood production.

Are you for real or are you a bot?. I have seen you posting same thing in at least 5 different threads.

 

[ARSENAL6]

China quizzes Pakistan over Mumbai attack
2 Dec 2008, 1700 hrs IST, Saibal Dasgupta, TNN

BEIJING: Security agencies in China are quizzing their Pakistani counterparts about possible links between the attack in Mumbai and terrorist
organisations based in Pakistan, informed sources said.

Chinese agencies have already taken measures to seal off possible loopholes in the country's borders with India, Pakistan and Afghanistan to ensure that no fugitives sneak in. Beijing is particularly worried that Pakistan based terrorists might seek refuge Xinjiang, the terrorism hit province bordering Pakistan.

"We are ready to cooperate with India and Pakistan to fight terrorists groups that are active in the region," Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao told TOI. "We face the danger of terrorists' attacks from supporters of the East Turkmenistan movement. So, we are very concerned," he said.

China, which is a close ally of Pakistan, is capable of persuading leaders in Islamabad to part with critical intelligence and even hand over terrorists to India. But Beijing might prefer to deal with Pakistani leaders on this score to safeguard itself from terrorism spilling across the border to its own territory.

Liu, the foreign ministry spokesman, said China was ready to join hands with India to track down terrorists groups that may have been involved in the attack in Mumbai on November 26. The event demonstrated that India, Pakistan and Afghanistan continue to be serious targets of terrorists. Chinese security agencies were closely studying the incident to examine the role of terrorists in the region, he said.

"We have an arrangement with Pakistan on working jointly to combat terrorism," Liu said and added that the arrangement is working well.

But an anti-terrorism expert of the Chinese government feels that Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was pointing a finger at Pakistan to "cover up" what he described as the "flaws and shortcomings" of the Indian government. The terrorists in Mumbai attack may have come from within India's border, Li Wei, director of anti-terrorist studies of China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations told the official media.

China's public security bureau recently indicated that most of the ultras active in the country's Xinjiang region have been trained and backed by Pakistan based terrorist organisations. Beijing is worried that the close linkages between different terrorists groups and possible links with the al-Qaida could escalate the already volatile law and order situation on the China-Pakistan border, sources said.

Li, who works for the China Institutes of Contemporary International Relations, said that the Mumbai attack will have profound influence on other nations in Asia. It is also a signal that existing measures on issues like early warning system and risk evaluation are not sufficient to be prepared for such brazen attacks, he said.

The remarks from the Chinese foreign ministry comes in the wake of reports that the Pakistani military brass has threatened to pull out troops from the Afghanistan border and thus bring an end to the US-led war on terror if there is any military action from the Indian side over the Mumbai attack.

Pakistan has for long managed to keep both US and China on tenterhooks by using threats of easing its military pressure on the Afghanistan border and weakening its surveillance of Afghanistan based terrorists groups including Al Qaida activists, informed sources said.

China quizzes Pakistan over Mumbai attack-China-World-The Times of India

China's public security bureau recently indicated that most of the ultras active in the country's Xinjiang region have been trained and backed by Pakistan based terrorist organisations. ????????!!!!!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

WTF !?!?!?!?!?!?!?

nuff said

The amount this guy rants about Islamaphobic and anti-pakistan veiws in all the threads in this forum, just shows how much is the Hindu guilt being the mastermind of the Mumbi terror attacks. You just keep it up man

 

[metalfalcon]

There is no doubt about that, India media didn't behaved professionally, they Blamed Pakistan, ISI and Pakistan navy without proper information from Indian officials and they are Playing their role in the current Elections as Bollywood stars and Indian Cricketers are coming on Media and are giving interviews in which they are asking for the resignation of many Ministers of Congress so they are helping BJP isn't it ?

 

[Omar1984]

"As you can see for yourselves, this is not a training facility for terrorists," says Abdullah Muntazir.

Mr Muntazir is a spokesman for the Jamaat-ud-Dawa organisation, an Islamic charity.

The organisation has been labelled a political front for the militant organization, Lashkar-e-Taiba (Army of the Pure).

The Lashkar has been fighting the Indian armed forces in the disputed territory of Kashmir since 1990 and has been accused of hitting numerous Indian targets outside Kashmir - including last week's attacks in Mumbai in which 188 people died.

It has strongly denied being responsible for the Mumbai violence and most other incidents outside of Indian-administered Kashmir for which it has been accused.

Military strikes

But the Lashkar is nevertheless on the list of banned terrorist groups compiled by the US state department.

Mr Muntazir was speaking to the media at the Markaz-e-Taiba (Centre of the Pure) compound set up by Jamaat-ud-Dawa in Pakistan's Punjab province.

We have nothing to hide here

Abdullah Muntazir

The compound is commonly referred to as the main headquarters of the Jamaat-ud-Dawa.

It has also been described by Indian - and sometimes Pakistani - media as a training facility for Lashkar militants.

This perception has hardened since the attacks in Mumbai, with some Indian commentators talking about launching military strikes on the compound.

Although the BBC saw no militant activity in the camp, Lashkar is known to operate militant camps in areas of Pakistan-administered Kashmir.

To try to dispel perceptions, Jamaat-ud-Dawa hosted an open house for local and foreign journalists, including the BBC, on Thursday.

The centre is located outside the town of Muridke, about 40km (25 miles) from the eastern city of Lahore in central Punjab.

A small dusty lane leads off the main Grand Trunk Road through a small settlement of farmers and labourers to the gates of the compound.

Basic curriculum

Inside its 75-acre grounds are educational and residential facilities.

There is a secondary school for girls, a high school for boys and two madrassas, or religious schools, one each for girls and boys and hostels for the students.

The compound has been labelled as a training facility for militants

We were taken on a tour of the entire complex by Mr Muntazir and his team.

"We have classes here until Intermediate (Pakistan equivalent of high school/'A' Levels)," says Rashid Minhas, principal of science.

"The subjects include English and the sciences. We have fully furnished labs here as well as facilities that you would find in any good school in Pakistan.

"The basic curriculum is the same as that taught all over Pakistan, with an added focus on Islam."

According to Mr Minhas, there are 530 boys and 345 girls in the school.

School is in session as we pass through the classrooms.

In the physics lab, a group of students are putting together a circuit which transfers electricity to a light bulb.

As the bulb flashes red, the students exchange smiles of accomplishment. The same scene could be replicated across countless other schools in Pakistan.

School setting

One student, Zohaib Naveed, says he is in class eight and comes from a nearby town.

He hopes to be an engineer when he grows up.



Jamaat-ud-Dawa operates various social relief operations

When asked by one of the journalists who his leader is, he says simply "Quaid-e-Azam". He is referring to Mohammad Ali Jinnah, founder of Pakistan.

In an adjoining class, students are conducting an experiment, using hydrochloric acid to produce a gas.

They smile and shyly pose for the camera, just like any other normal children in a school setting.

The difference is, because of the allegations levelled against Jamaat-ud-Dawa, their activities could well be deemed as "militant training".

But if that really is the case, the atmosphere in the school and the entire complex is remarkably open and easy.

Nearby is a newly-constructed 60-bed hospital which treats dozens of people daily.

The centre of the compound is dominated by a huge mosque, surrounded by the educational facilities, the residential complex and a small shopping centre

Men and women move about freely and there is no evidence of any militants or training facilities.

At the barrier at the main gate of the complex the guards were carrying no arms.

The entire complex, in fact, closely represents a university campus.

It appears to be nowhere near the armed training camp described in many - possibly speculative - stories in the international media.

"We have nothing to hide here," says Abdullah Muntazir.

"You can see with your own eyes that the focus is on education and welfare activities. We have nothing to do with Lashkar-e-Taiba.

"We have always followed the laws and regulations of Pakistan, and we believe the government will protect us in the face of these false accusations."

You can watch the video of the school's tour at BBC NEWS | South Asia | Peaceful school or 'terror' base?

 

[T-Rex]

ROTFLMAO which group oh puhlease why isnt it mentioned there the NAME OF THE GROUP? uh oh fits the bill? yes for the conspiracy theory believers onlee

India acts as per its nations interest, not for communists interest or others, because it is against the constitution of India.

Perhaps the group consists of individuals that have no intention to form a formal organization, has that ever crossed your mind ? When people said that Iraq was invaded not for WMD but for its natural resources people like you sang the song "conspiracy theory", now may I ask where are those Iraqi WMD for which one sovereign state was invaded ? Where are the black-boxes of all the aircraft that took part in 9/11 ? What was the American air-force doing, why didn't they intercept the planes ? No answer but singing the "conspiracy theory". Give it up instead of making wicked remarks.

 

[T-Rex]

Dear Munshi,

They are going ballastic because throught the article no names of the organisation, intellectuals or the spokesperson is mentioned. Also Kashmir Times writing something happening in Bombay oops sorry Mumbai seems far fetched.

My observations thats all.

Regards

So, New York Times should not write about something that's happening in India because India is far away from New York. That tells the level of your intelligence.

 

[BanglaBhoot]

Wow!!! I thought this thread had died on me. Who brought it back to life. LOL ......

 

[T-Rex]

Is this a post or a propaganda leaflet. The majority of muslims love Europe and I promise if you go to Spain or UK you will see the best Doctors come from Pakistan, India, Philipines, Bangladesh and Srilanka. Many of them are muslims. None of them till date have told me that they came here because they were being prosecuted but they just wanted the challenge and opportunity to practise at a global level. The bottom line is that there is no conspiracy to eliminate muslims in Spain or that matter of fact in Europe and I doubt India too as its got more muslims in world other than Indoneasia if I am not wrong.

Some muslims have definately got the wrong end of the stick in India (discrimination wise) but please name me any country of the world including developed economies like USA where a minority community has not been discriminated ? Red Indians in USA ?

Regards

No this is not a propaganda, a terrorist and fundamentalist organization like BJP did form government in India and it is about to form government again, if my speculation is correct. On the other hand, Islamic groups in Muslim countries that oppose the so-called great Indian and anglo-American designs are all terrorists, that is what we call the real picture of propaganda.

 

[M_Saint]

India acts as per its nations interest, not for communists interest or others, because it is against the constitution of India.

Perhaps Indians and their current 'Buddies of convenience' should circumspect in seeking interest and stop having 'Nightmares of conquering world', so they don't have to find the members of 'Open ended boggy' or link dead innocents with them by the terms of 'Guilt in association' throughout the world to hide wickedness of unprecedented magnitude in human history.