France not to allow women to wear abayas in schools: Minister

[Hero786]

It should be banned in all over the world.

Suicide Bombars can hide in Burqa. Even ISIS like groups can use women for suicide attacks.

Real question is: why are Muslim women going in Europe?
What is th reason? Why can not they stay in their own countries?

 

[hussain0216]

It should be banned in all over the world.

Suicide Bombars can hide in Burqa. Even ISIS like groups can use women for suicide attacks.

Real question is: why are Muslim women going in Europe?
What is th reason? Why can not they stay in their own countries?

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By that standard we should ban trousers and shoes because active shooters in the U.S wear them when they gun down school kids

Islam is a faith, people of all backgroundss and ethnicities can be Muslim, why shouldn't Muslim women go to the west


If a country has a specific law that says they won't allow religious practices etc people could make a choice of whether they want to go their or not


However, what law is Being broken by these citizens of the state?
They have freedom of religion and practice
Their is allegedly freedom of speech, dress and thought

Yet they are making new laws to target religious and Muslim people

These people are citizens and the least they can do is defend their rights and point out the hypocrisy

It's up to Muslims to practice, implement the faith and show that these laws will be counterproductive

 

[Hero786]

By that standard we should ban trousers and shoes because active shooters in the U.S wear them when they gun down school kids

Islam is a faith, people of all backgroundss and ethnicities can be Muslim, why shouldn't Muslim women go to the west


If a country has a specific law that says they won't allow religious practices etc people could make a choice of whether they want to go their or not


However, what law is Being broken by these citizens of the state?
They have freedom of religion and practice
Their is allegedly freedom of speech, dress and thought

Yet they are making new laws to target religious and Muslim people

These people are citizens and the least they can do is defend their rights and point out the hypocrisy

It's up to Muslims to practice, implement the faith and show that these laws will be counterproductive

Your logic is wrong.

 

[hussain0216]

Your logic is wrong.

It's pretty Bang on

 

[aziqbal]

It should be banned in all over the world.

Suicide Bombars can hide in Burqa. Even ISIS like groups can use women for suicide attacks.

Real question is: why are Muslim women going in Europe?
What is th reason? Why can not they stay in their own countries?

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your logic is wrong

 

[Foinikas]

Many of those places were colonies weren't they

Nigeria was a colony of the British empire wasn't it

Nigeria became independent in 1960. It's 2023 and the country is still a shithole.

Look at all these African countries. They had more than half a century to use their huge natural resources and build moderately wealthy nations with leaders from their own people. And they barely function as countries.

Only a few ones very special exceptions,South Africa being the best example probably,partly because a lot of the white people still stayed.

Stop nagging like a hippie.

Again, the laws that enshrine freedom of dress, speech, thought etc you know the humans rights, democracy bullshit these states normally espouse which is these laws are religious people breaking when they choose to dress and live in accordance with their personal values

You're a conservative Muslim and you don't like France? Don't live in France.

Does Britain allow abayas and burqas in universities?

I know French are softy but so soft that they feel threatened by head scarfs?

Let's see if Muslims feel threated by a few thousand women in bikinis and their studs,enjoying the beaches of Pakistan.

Also,if you do not feel threatened by mini-skirts,which are just clothes,allow them in your universities.

Oh wait,you live in Britain.

no wonder the French get owned In every war

The amount of historical ignorance by you,again...

List of wars involving France - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

France takes the moral high ground on all issues in the World

the rightful democratic nation which decides whats right and whats wrong

And Britain does not?! Are you kidding?

 

[CIA Mole]

muslim countries must develop to provide haven for muslim

not run to foreign land/cultures and demand others to change

 

[hussain0216]

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Nigeria became independent in 1960. It's 2023 and the country is still a shithole.

Look at all these African countries. They had more than half a century to use their huge natural resources and build moderately wealthy nations with leaders from their own people. And they barely function as countries.

Only a few ones very special exceptions,South Africa being the best example probably,partly because a lot of the white people still stayed.

Stop nagging like a hippie.



You're a conservative Muslim and you don't like France? Don't live in France.

Does Britain allow abayas and burqas in universities?


Let's see if Muslims feel threated by a few thousand women in bikinis and their studs,enjoying the beaches of Pakistan.

Also,if you do not feel threatened by mini-skirts,which are just clothes,allow them in your universities.

Oh wait,you live in Britain.


The amount of historical ignorance by you,again...

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List of wars involving France - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And Britain does not?! Are you kidding?

Look has Pakistan, Saudi, iran or anybody declared that they are bastions of democracy and freedom of speech, dress, thought and human rights?

Nor do these countries lecture others, bring sanctions and wars for those reasons


The vast majority of migrants to France have been from former French colonies
Same goes for Britain


For the last 70 years these states has espoused democracy
Freedom
Individual choice
Freedom of religion
Sexuality
Privacy
A long list of similar things


So French citizens of Muslim background is wish to use their freedom to practice their faith, raise their children with morals and values in a world where debauchery is being taught as the norm


The French have a bee up their *** about French Muslim women being free to practice their faith and freedom to dress in moral way

And THE STATE Is coming in to determine what citizens should dress like at the SAME time where laws exist to protect various freedoms


Not only is this counterproductive and has in the past led to a backlash with communities doubling down and resisting but it also contradicts all the freedom bullshit these hypocrite states have been banging on about and which have been the basis of countless sanctions and moralism these states have in the past been part of

muslim countries must develop to provide haven for muslim

not run to foreign land/cultures and demand others to change

Whose gone to ask anyone to change
The laws are already there to protect freedom of speech freedom of religion etc

Muslim citizens standing up for their rights is a must

At the same time, if these countries insist on attacking Iraq, Libya, Syria, or supportive apartheid in Israel or government changes in places like Pakistan that will inevitably lead to migration

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

So what exactly they want women to wear ?

The rule is (as I understand it), that You may not show Your religion by wearing clothes or accessories. A woman can wear trousers or a dress.

It is the beacon of democracy . In U.K. there are rules against religious racial discrimination and would fall under the terms of bullying of a child .

What has it got to do with others how a child would like to dress / undress .

Since they ban all religious dressing in school, it is not discrimination.

 

[hussain0216]

The rule is (as I understand it), that You may not show Your religion by wearing clothes or accessories. A woman can wear trousers or a dress.


Since they ban all religious dressing in school, it is not discrimination.

The abaya is a dress

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Except the Islamists don't believe in freedom nor are they advocating for it in other places. However, countries like France profess in believing in freedom and the freedom of choice, yet they're enforcing a dress code, which is no different than the Islamists (except in how much is/isn't covered).

So, to the rest of us, it's clear that the yardstick isn't freedom in of itself, but French society's (or more specifically, the French elite's) arbitrary preferences. In other words, the French don't have it in them to walk their talk, and that isn't a great sign for the long-term health of freedom or secularism in France.

They are not enforcing a dress code. They are stopping religions from using group pressure to enforce religious clothing on kids.

 

[kingQamaR]

muslim countries must develop to provide haven for muslim

not run to foreign land/cultures and demand others to change

The disastrous western interventions in Iraq Afghanistan Lybia and Syria have lead to this crisis. They wouldn’t have to leave their homes / families if you kept your bloody knows out of their countries!!!

 

[PradoTLC]

Look,I'm against the dumb "expression of freedom" when it comes to stuff like certain magazines and the attitude the French politicians have about that. I'd also want a real Christian France like back in the days before the French Revolution,but I dislike this forced multiculturalism and this expansion of other religions on Christian Europe. Islam or Buddhism or Hinduism,I want Europe to remain Christian and with European culture.

Now,for me it's ridiculous when I see Muslims on PDF badmouthing France all the time,while they praise Britain which has basically the same "woke" culture,drunkards,slutty women,swinger couples and has supported the Americans in almost all their invasions of Muslim countries the last 30 years,

And especially when the same Muslims are Pakistanis and complain about France all the time and forget that Britain controlled all of the Indian subcontinent.

Christian Europe ?

What is that ?

 

[A.P. Richelieu]

Just curious - as a Hindu male, how is your freedom being intruded upon by a Muslim woman wearing a garment?

The use of dressing to show your religion intrudes on the freedom of others of that religion, since they are pushed to wear religious dressings and pays a price if they do not.

The disastrous western interventions in Iraq Afghanistan Lybia and Syria have lead to this crisis. They wouldn’t have to leave their homes / families if you kept your bloody knows out of their countries!!!

Maybe the Arabs should not have started the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria then…

 

[PradoTLC]

What's wrong with that?

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Would you like Pakistan to be turned into a Protestant Christian republic?

The English tried every thing to get rid of Islam during colonial rule including the concept of “burning the Quran” .. they failed

As it the one religion that stipulates human rights every thing from freeing of slaves , right of divorce , rules of inheritance, treatment of parents etc

You people never liked the concept of universal human rights