Out of the box solution for peace between pakistan and india

[Baltistan scouts]

Solution for jammu kashmir despute if no plebacite and one which would be agreeable to the majority is for pakistan to keep gilgit baltistan and india to keep leh district and to keep the 4 southern most jammu districts .the remainder of azad kashmir kashmir valley kargil district and pir panjal valley and chenab valley are given their independence.

 

[Varunastra]

So in your solution we lose more territory, not to mention the independent part will be under Pakistan influence for sure if it doesn't end up merging, sorry but not possible.
The only solution possible is turning LOC into international border and even then many Indians would think being the stronger power why we gave up the claim.

 

[TNT]

So in your solution we lose more territory, not to mention the independent part will be under Pakistan influence for sure if it doesn't end up merging, sorry but not possible.
The only solution possible is turning LOC into international border and even then many Indians would think being the stronger power why we gave up the claim.

Current LOC is not feasible as a border. See the unrest in kashmir. The only solution for india is to cede some territory. Handing over muslim majority areas of IOJK will solve the issue. This way there wont be any majority muslim areas in india to create unrest, Pakistan can sell it to its people and so can india.

 

[Vortex]

Current LOC is not feasible as a border. See the unrest in kashmir. The only solution for india is to cede some territory. Handing over muslim majority areas of IOJK will solve the issue. This way there wont be any majority muslim areas in india to create unrest, Pakistan can sell it to its people and so can india.

Didn’t india changed laws which will allow demographics change in occupied Kashmir ? So what will happen if indians settle there ? In same way as did and are doing Israelis ?

 

[TNT]

Didn’t india changed laws which will allow demographics change in occupied Kashmir ? So what will happen if indians settle there ? In same way as did and are doing Israelis ?

India knows one day it have to cede the muslim majority areas and thus is working hard to change demographics.

 

[Trango Towers]

India doesnt have to do anything,just wait.Pakistan is declining rapidly as a state even as our power increases steadily.As the power difference becomes ever more stark pakistani claims will become irrelevant.This process will be completed with next 10-20 years.

Say something new...Indians have been saying this since 14 August 1947

 

[Varunastra]

Current LOC is not feasible as a border. See the unrest in kashmir. The only solution for india is to cede some territory. Handing over muslim majority areas of IOJK will solve the issue. This way there wont be any majority muslim areas in india to create unrest, Pakistan can sell it to its people and so can india.

Ceding territory willingly is like a death sentence to whichever party is in power. Out of the question, for India it is basically about whether to go for the current status quo, LOC to IB or to actively pursue annexing the territories we claim.

 

[American Pakistani]

India doesnt have to do anything,just wait.Pakistan is declining rapidly as a state even as our power increases steadily.As the power difference becomes ever more stark pakistani claims will become irrelevant.This process will be completed with next 10-20 years.

I thought you guys already declared us irrelevant in 2010 or so and you were supa pawa in 2012 whereas you had "white servants" in 2020. I'm confused about this new irrelevant timeperiod of 10 20 yrs?

And tbh, Pakistan doesn't have to do anything either and just sit and watch how india waste its resources in IIOJ&K, expose itself in the world by showing human rights violations and keep Muslim population high in India. Reports suggest Muslim population will reach 25% mark by 2080 - 2100. It will only increase from there till the time when Muslim will either create another independent country or rule the country.

 

[Trango Towers]

Ceding territory willingly is like a death sentence to whichever party is in power. Out of the question, for India it is basically about whether to go for the current status quo, LOC to IB or to actively pursue annexing the territories we claim.

Ummmm.

 

[TNT]

Ceding territory willingly is like a death sentence to whichever party is in power. Out of the question, for India it is basically about whether to go for the current status quo, LOC to IB or to actively pursue annexing the territories we claim.

Modi can twist anything anyway and people will accept. How is ceding territory bad for a large country like india if it assures stability and peace?

 

[313ghazi]

Didn’t india changed laws which will allow demographics change in occupied Kashmir ? So what will happen if indians settle there ? In same way as did and are doing Israelis ?

Kashmiris can either disappear like Palestinians or they can gun down hindu settlers.

Nobody will buy land if they know they're going to be shot dead.

 

[Trango Towers]

Modi can twist anything anyway and people will accept. How is ceding territory bad for a large country like india if it assures stability and peace?

India hasn't lost an inch to China has it

 

[StraightEdge]

Current LOC is not feasible as a border. See the unrest in kashmir. The only solution for india is to cede some territory. Handing over muslim majority areas of IOJK will solve the issue. This way there wont be any majority muslim areas in india to create unrest, Pakistan can sell it to its people and so can india.

Do you think any political party in India will commit suicide by doing this? Imagine BJP does this, will it ever come back to power? Please think once before you suggest a solution. Never ever in worst case situation any political party in India will ever agree to this - peace in valley will be secondary thought.

 

[kongn]

I thought you guys already declared us irrelevant in 2010 or so and you were supa pawa in 2012 whereas you had "white servants" in 2020. I'm confused about this new irrelevant timeperiod of 10 20 yrs?

And tbh, Pakistan doesn't have to do anything either and just sit and watch how india waste its resources in IIOJ&K, expose itself in the world by showing human rights violations and keep Muslim population high in India. Reports suggest Muslim population will reach 25% mark by 2080 - 2100. It will only increase from there till the time when Muslim will either create another independent country or rule the country.

You already are sliding into irrelevance.Your treatment by global community is testament to that.By 2025 your entire revenue will be taken up by debt payment alone..are you sure you are not going the way of ussr?USSR had 40000 nukes,couldnt save themselves..you have 150 at most ..you think you can escape?
We are becoming steadily more powerful economically and technologically,thats not debatable.The numbers are there for all to see.Next 30 years is when we have to cash in our demographics and steps are being taken for that.We are already 10 times bigger than you..acc to world bank we will grow 10-12% this year while you 1-2%.Then your debt will start to kill you by 2025.Remittances from gulf will decline rapidly in next 10 years and you have a double combo of population explosion and water crisis.Your water table is nearing exhaustion, population still climbing,your agriculture stagnant and you are importing wheat and crying for cotton. Agriculture, textiles, remittances and sports goods is what your economy runs on.
Your country is entering a death spiral of its own making.

Dont worry about the scattered muslim population in india,rss can cut that down easily whenever it wants with NRC or other means.The fertility rates are already declining rapidly anyway.

 

[313ghazi]

Do you think any political party in India will commit suicide by doing this? Imagine BJP does this, will it ever come back to power? Please think once before you suggest a solution. Never ever in worst case situation any political party in India will ever agree to this - peace in valley will be secondary thought.

I agree. The only solution is to take territory like the Chinese did. Everything else is talk.