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[Yasser76]

not overly concerned about mig29upg fighters or more mki.

really want the tejas,mark1a,
my thinking is based on aesa radar and the new,extended range Derby missles and low rcs and usa engines,making tejas very good addition to air Force.

we already have 330 mki and mig29 in airforce alone

tejas,1a is new technology

" really want the tejas,mark1a, " I bet you do.....

 

[White and Green with M/S]

not overly concerned about mig29upg fighters or more mki.

really want the tejas,mark1a,
my thinking is based on aesa radar and the new,extended range Derby missles and low rcs and usa engines,making tejas very good addition to air Force.

we already have 330 mki and mig29 in airforce alone

tejas,1a is new technology

Your m
Tej@$$ is no where near that the class of MKI or MIG 29 these are world MAJOR and popular jets

 

[The Maverick]

Your m
Tej@$$ is no where near that the class of MKI or MIG 29 these are world MAJOR and popular jets

Your missing the points
tejas will have the best aesa radar bar the Rafale ie better than Russian bars pesa on mki and better than zhuk me aesa on mig29.

the tejas has better engines ie more advanced more maintenance free

tejas had miles better flight control.and airframe than both mki and mig29

what we don't have is brute power of mki and mig29

 

[Vanamali]

Nothing to do with jealousy. 8 Squadrons of in service JF-17s in PAF and Block III production commencing. It's about having enough modern cutting edge planes that Pak can service and support. PAF never claimed Thunder was domestic, clue is in the actual name (Joint Fighter), we just need a cheap plane we can support ourselves in high numbers. JF-17 has delivered that. India tried the same and failed, big time.

2021 will be the year LCA is finally put out of it's misery and cancelled and will be the year the first Block IIIs will join PAF. Hope your stacked up on Burnol....

Let me ask question differently... Just for the sake of argument, if tomorrow China stops cooperation with Pak in all aspects, how much of JF17 can be manufactured by Pak (if it has option of suppliers other than China for various parts), give me in %...

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Your missing the points
tejas will have the best aesa radar bar the Rafale ie better than Russian bars pesa on mki and better than zhuk me aesa on mig29.

the tejas has better engines ie more advanced more maintenance free

tejas had miles better flight control.and airframe than both mki and mig29

what we don't have is brute power of mki and mig29

Can your Tejas compete with latest gen of F-16/F-15 equiped with AESA and other latest avionics, please give me my that question????

 

[Trango Towers]

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Anyone have any numbers on projected life cycle cost of Tejas?

Life cycle.....is it born yet?

Yahoo,I am the 1st one to post on this thread
On topic
Life cycle cost will be significantly lower than MKIs or the Rafael

Wellfone for postings 1st
Your response is as good as a chocolate fire guard

 

[Yasser76]

Let me ask question differently... Just for the sake of argument, if tomorrow China stops cooperation with Pak in all aspects, how much of JF17 can be manufactured by Pak (if it has option of suppliers other than China for various parts), give me in %...

Same situation if US/Israel stops cooperation with India tomorrow, how much of LCA will be manufactured in India?

 

[Vanamali]

Same situation if US/Israel stops cooperation with India tomorrow, how much of LCA will be manufactured in India?

We have already stocked up engines, so in next 12 months we can produce up to 8 planes and for future we will get Engine from France and we use our avionics and will build it... now answer about J17, if China stops co-operating with Pak today, in next 12 months how many J17 can be produced??

 

[Trango Towers]

We have already stocked up engines, so in next 12 months we can produce up to 8 planes and for future we will get Engine from France and we use our avionics and will build it... now answer about J17, if China stops co-operating with Pak today, in next 12 months how many J17 can be produced??

China has invested billions in Pakistan. Its shoring up defence cooperation. Why would it risk its investment and make Pakistan weaker. The reason you have lost between 1000 and 4000 sq km (your politicians figures not mine) is because you threatened Pakistan. If anything the future looks even brighter for Pakistan.

 

[Yasser76]

We have already stocked up engines, so in next 12 months we can produce up to 8 planes and for future we will get Engine from France and we use our avionics and will build it... now answer about J17, if China stops co-operating with Pak today, in next 12 months how many J17 can be produced??

You stocked up engines and radars?????

Complete and utter rubbish, you have not even ordered the engines from GE or radar from Israel. If those two refuse to deliver you will then need new engines and radar and even further delay.

JF-17 can use Russian or Chinese engines

JF-17 can use Italian or Chinese radar

At a push we can incorporate Turkish tech too.

Like LCA, JF-17 has choices and it was designed from the outset, the very outset, to be adaptable to customer requirements

 

[Vanamali]

You stocked up engines and radars?????

Complete and utter rubbish, you have not even ordered the engines from GE or radar from Israel. If those two refuse to deliver you will then need new engines and radar and even further delay.

JF-17 can use Russian or Chinese engines

JF-17 can use Italian or Chinese radar

At a push we can incorporate Turkish tech too.

Like LCA, JF-17 has choices and it was designed from the outset, the very outset, to be adaptable to customer requirements

You didn't answer... Going round and round... Quote me no of planes Pak can produce in next 12 months with out China.

 

[ziaulislam]

We have already stocked up engines, so in next 12 months we can produce up to 8 planes and for future we will get Engine from France and we use our avionics and will build it... now answer about J17, if China stops co-operating with Pak today, in next 12 months how many J17 can be produced??

Jf17 is joint venture so obviously if one patner leaves pakistan wont be able to continue the thunder project.
Also the engine is provided by russia to china..

If however china allows it then give past experience of mamufacturing

pakistan will be able to manfacturer rest of airframe as it already does 60%

 

[White and Green with M/S]

You didn't answer... Going round and round... Quote me no of planes Pak can produce in next 12 months with out China.

no sir and stick to the topic please , this is Tejas thread not JFT thread, thanks you sir

 

[Vanamali]

China has invested billions in Pakistan. Its shoring up defence cooperation. Why would it risk its investment and make Pakistan weaker. The reason you have lost between 1000 and 4000 sq km (your politicians figures not mine) is because you threatened Pakistan. If anything the future looks even brighter for Pakistan.

My question is direct... Can you produce JF17 without china? If yes, how many... You can say no/stay silent/discuss anything under sky...

 

[White and Green with M/S]

My question is direct... Can you produce JF17 without china? If yes, how many... You can say no/stay silent/discuss anything under sky...

Can you produce your Tejas without any foreign help, (From Israel/France/USA) please tell us???