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[POLL] Is this Government fascist? You decide.

Is the Imran Khan led Government fascist?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 8.0%
  • No

    Votes: 41 82.0%
  • No but fascist elements are present

    Votes: 3 6.0%
  • There's a "third party" to this all

    Votes: 2 4.0%

  • Total voters
    50

Lincoln

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Case swept away like dust underneath the carpet. That's not where it ends.

Government is also now infringing on the private domain of people on the internet with the help of a highly, espionage-kind controversial company.


Does it end here? No. Recall Imran Khan's tweets where he promised justice again and again for the victims of CTD's murder.

Well...

https://www.globalvillagespace.com/...fficials-acquitted-in-sahiwal-encounter-case/

I don't like the person I am quoting down below but if what she says is true, then that's insane and extremely wrong.


And then...


Not to mention the dress code PTI Government had enforced in KPK only tp take it back the next day after outcry.

So, so much more. The list is a lot big. I won't pass any commentary but simply leave it for you to decide.
 
Before you decide, read, otherwise are you doing justice? Here's the definition of fascism.

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy.
 
Taking on elements that are destabalizing the state does not mean fascism. We need some rule of law.

How exactly are they destabilizing the state? Are the allegations really that hard hitting that there is nothing to defend with or justify?

And how is saving selective people's asses, while jailing opponents, exactly taking on destabilizers?
 
You can't call it a fascist regime but it's a Govt which is in perplexing state from start.Shooting left-right all the time, hitting set targets along with shooting own foot ocassionally.
Ik is nodoubt a good person himself but the people who accompany him and old guards have made his thinking bleak.
He came in Govt criticising every action of past Govt's and after few days in Govt he realised, the grass is not always greener on the other side.
As a result he is taking most of decisions about which once he felt deep repugnance.
 
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How exactly are they destabilizing the state? Are the allegations really that hard hitting that there is nothing to defend with or justify?

And how is saving selective people's asses, while jailing opponents, exactly taking on destabilizers?

So someone escapes a country n expects their helpers not to be bothered? Those are jailed who r corrupt, we know what these dogs have done to the country.
 
Before you decide, read, otherwise are you doing justice? Here's the definition of fascism.

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/) is a form of far-right, authoritarian ultranationalism characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and strong regimentation of society and of the economy.
If Pakistan was a fascist state Vin Diesel, Zardari, NS, Maryam, Shabaz along with most of the PML-N, PPP elite would be facing firing squads by now. 100,000s even millions of other individuals declared as undesirbles would be in mass concentration camps. All media would be under direct state control. Provincial legislatures would have been dissolved and power moved to the presidential system of government. The assembly would be selected with yes people and act as just a rubber stamp to the absolute powers of Presidency.

Is this what Pakistan looks like?
 
Other than the "far right ultra nationalist" part, a chunk of all the other aspects of this definition can be found in this government.
A crackdown on opposition (even if they are corrupt, the way it is done so to make sure of almost no opposition possible by keeping them locked up for a long period of time with very slow progress on the cases and/or investigation) , an urge to control media (not allowing opposition narrative to be conveyed, pressure for not popularizing issues that show lack on the part of government, intimidating journalists) and controlling the judicial system as per own wishes are all present and visible.
As per Rauf Klasra, in the PM IK meeting with journalists he was not even aware of media being told not to showcase interview of Maulana nor was Minister of Info aware who said its PEMRA and same has been done earlier with Zardari (who passes the order i would sure like to know). Before this incident of judiciary, there was the transferring judges through whatsapp as well.
Personally the current government, through its ways and part of IK's team, tends the most as reminder of Musharraf's era to me and the influence of establishment (yes army), selected bureaucracy, corrupt old politicians placed in the IK's team (and then those people's sub teams and so on) is so manifested in the time we have seen this government for. I am a PTI voter, IK believer, but the frame, as it stands, is bleak.
I personally believe this government overall is still better than all the last ones, but still far far far away from a good one. Those who say IK team is shit, IK should chose one then. The challenges are haunting but we who voted for him expected a man to see the devil in the eyes not try to over run it and escape.
Besides, the foreign policy and relations have been run well, Economy is being tried upon well but still on the same old ways, We have a man who at the very least seems to be a leader of a nation.
OPPOSITION, MEDIA, JUDICIARY suffer, no matter how much u believe they are corrupt and agents or whatever, there is a right way and a wrong way. Every brick that is laid in a wall is the foundation for the next one.
 
If Pakistan was a fascist state Vin Diesel, Zardari, NS, Maryam, Shabaz along with most of the PML-N, PPP elite would be facing firing squads by now. 100,000s even millions of other individuals declared as undesirbles would be in mass concentration camps. All media would be under direct state control. Provincial legislatures would have been dissolved and power moved to the presidential system of government. The assembly would be selected with yes people and act as just a rubber stamp to the absolute powers of Presidency.

Is this what Pakistan looks like?
Pakistan looks complete opposite to it
Sindh government acts as if Sindh is an independent country
Lifafas are allowed to bark against government and to defend Nawaz Sharif at TV still they are crying about freedom of speech
Lifafa columnists of Urdu newspapers write anti government columns everyday make fun of Imran Khan they even criticzed Imran Khan's UN speech
 



Case swept away like dust underneath the carpet. That's not where it ends.

Government is also now infringing on the private domain of people on the internet with the help of a highly, espionage-kind controversial company.


Does it end here? No. Recall Imran Khan's tweets where he promised justice again and again for the victims of CTD's murder.

Well...

https://www.globalvillagespace.com/...fficials-acquitted-in-sahiwal-encounter-case/

I don't like the person I am quoting down below but if what she says is true, then that's insane and extremely wrong.


And then...


Not to mention the dress code PTI Government had enforced in KPK only tp take it back the next day after outcry.

So, so much more. The list is a lot big. I won't pass any commentary but simply leave it for you to decide.

No its not. Its just little harsh on Haramies, that doesn't make it Fascist.
 
جی ہاں۔ پاکستان میں فسطائیت اس وقت اپنے عروج کو ہے
 
Pakistan looks complete opposite to it
THe office of PM has been so watered down that it makes running Pakistan a problem. Power and fiances have been devolved in huge measure to provincial governments under the 15th amendment. Sindh is effectively out of federal governments control and is being ran by PPP as a fiefdom on behalf the Bhuttos. This alone wrecks any claim of fascism as such states are heavily centralized with such models as duce, fuhrer in Italy and Germany as examples.

Indeed the only reason the government is able to even run the country is thanks god that it has support of the army.
 
If Pakistan was a fascist state Vin Diesel, Zardari, NS, Maryam, Shabaz along with most of the PML-N, PPP elite would be facing firing squads by now. 100,000s even millions of other individuals declared as undesirbles would be in mass concentration camps. All media would be under direct state control. Provincial legislatures would have been dissolved and power moved to the presidential system of government. The assembly would be selected with yes people and act as just a rubber stamp to the absolute powers of Presidency.

Is this what Pakistan looks like?

Yep about sums it up.
 

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