MODP Year Book 2017-18

[HRK]

DIRECTORATE GENERAL MUNITIONS PRODUCTION (DGMP)

PROCUREMENT OF MAJOR DEFENCE EQUIPMENT

 

[Imran Khan]

so many new goodies

 

[YeBeWarned]

Is this first confirmation for CM-400 AKG ?

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

DIRECTORATE GENERAL MUNITIONS PRODUCTION (DGMP)
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What can be the supersonic missile for PN?

 

[HRK]

Heavy Industries Taxila (HIT)

PAKISTAN AERONAUTICAL COMPLEX KAMRA

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

What can be the supersonic missile for PN?

It's likely a supersonic-cruising design; either an original project (like Harba, Babur-3, etc) or a turnkey off-the-shelf buy of a Chinese AShM like HD-1A or CM-302. @JamD

 

[HRK]

Is this first confirmation for CM-400 AKG ?

yaap first official confirmation .....

What can be the supersonic missile for PN?

can't say ....

 

[war&peace]

It's likely a supersonic-cruising design; either an original project (like Harba, Babur-3, etc) or a turnkey off-the-shelf buy of a Chinese AShM like HD-1A or CM-302. @JamD

No, it is totally indigenous like Raäd and bäbur

 

[Areesh]

So many new goodies

Alhumdulillah

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

No, it is totally indigenous like Raäd and bäbur

@JamD didn't you say there was work on new air-breathing designs? Anyways, I hope there's scope in this supersonic AShM for airborne (via JF-17) deployment too.

 

[war&peace]

@JamD didn't you say there was work on new air-breathing designs? Anyways, I hope there's scope in this supersonic AShM for airborne (via JF-17) deployment too.

In fact designing cruise missile has become a "job as usual" for Pakistan after the ra'ad, babur and multiple versions and derivatives of these two. However the different thing this time is that it is a supersonic CM and for that Pakistan has got necessary technical know how. I think it is sufficient at this point of time.

 

[Bilal Khan (Quwa)]

In fact designing cruise missile has become a job as usual for Pakistan after the ra'ad, babur and their multiple versions and derivatives. However the different thing this time is that it is a supersonic CM and for that Pakistan has got necessary technical know how. I think it is sufficient at this point of time.

Yep we're talking about a ramjet (at least) air breathing engine, a very different beast I imagine (with its own issues re: flight control, fuel efficiency, etc). The first variant will probably be too heavy for the JF-17, basically tied to our surface warships and land launchers first. But if we're taking Project Azm seriously, then lessons on lightweight aero structures/composites, flight control systems, etc, should start making its way to cruise missile development.

As it stands, we'll be a step behind the Indians. They already have Brahmos, but will move onto the Brahmos NG (which their Tejas is supposed to be able to carry). It'll surprising if we can start out with something as light as the Brahmos NG on the first iteration. But doable if we prioritize it and secure the expertise (via South Africa, Ukraine, China, etc).

 

[war&peace]

Yep we're talking about a ramjet (at least) air breathing engine, a very different beast I imagine (with its own issues re: flight control, fuel efficiency, etc). The first variant will probably be too heavy for the JF-17, basically tied to our surface warships and land launchers first. But if we're taking Project Azm seriously, then lessons on lightweight aero structures/composites, flight control systems, etc, should start making its way to cruise missile development.

As it stands, we'll be a step behind the Indians. They already have Brahmos, but will move onto the Brahmos NG (which their Tejas is supposed to be able to carry). It'll surprising if we can start out with something as light as the Brahmos NG on the first iteration. But doable if we prioritize it and secure the expertise (via South Africa, Ukraine, China, etc).

Ra'ad later iterations have been quite lightweight and the weight is being reduced and most of it has been through design iterations but now new methods will allow even further reduction. Aerodynamics of supersonic missiles are easier than the subsonic. However, the engine requires more effort but I'm sure that Pakistan has got the required know how before formally launching the project.

 

[Ark_Angel]

It's likely a supersonic-cruising design; either an original project (like Harba, Babur-3, etc) or a turnkey off-the-shelf buy of a Chinese AShM like HD-1A or CM-302. @JamD

Original In House Project. Its Designated SMASH: Supersonic Missile Anti-Ship.

Yep we're talking about a ramjet (at least) air breathing engine, a very different beast I imagine (with its own issues re: flight control, fuel efficiency, etc). The first variant will probably be too heavy for the JF-17, basically tied to our surface warships and land launchers first. But if we're taking Project Azm seriously, then lessons on lightweight aero structures/composites, flight control systems, etc, should start making its way to cruise missile development.

As it stands, we'll be a step behind the Indians. They already have Brahmos, but will move onto the Brahmos NG (which their Tejas is supposed to be able to carry). It'll surprising if we can start out with something as light as the Brahmos NG on the first iteration. But doable if we prioritize it and secure the expertise (via South Africa, Ukraine, China, etc).

Sir Don’t Worry. IA it will beat all your expectations.

 

[YeBeWarned]

@JamD didn't you say there was work on new air-breathing designs? Anyways, I hope there's scope in this supersonic AShM for airborne (via JF-17) deployment too.

How would a CM like SOM design will work with Supersonic ? Will there be any limitation related to it designs ?


P.S Karachi Walo , Jis din JF block 3 aur AK-2 ke first unit PAF aur PA mai induct hun gay , Darbar ki double Plate Biryani meri taraf se