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In what could be good news for the resistance movement and Myanmar’s National Unity Government (NUG), there appears to be shimmering tensions between Islamabad and Naypyitaw over the supply of a set of newly acquired JF-17s fighter planes.


Military junta leader Min Aung Hlaing is said to have expressed his displeasure to none other than Pakistan’s Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and military chief, General Asim Munir as the aircrafts - JF-17 Thunder, a multi-role combat aircraft – which Pakistan has supplied to Myanmar between 2019 and 2021 have all been declared “unfit for operations.”

The newly acquired JF-17 Thunder, a multi-role combat aircraft from Pakistan had to be grounded owing to malfunctioning of the planes. The newly delivered planes are part of a deal which the Burmese military junta signed in 2016 to purchase JF-17 produced jointly by Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and Chengdu Aircraft Industries Corporation of China.

But soon after the delivery of the aircrafts the Burmese Air Force were forced to ground the planes as malfunctions and structural flaws were detected. A similar problem resulted with the new acquired fleets in 2022. There are a total of 11 JF-17 fighter jets but none are currently operational due to technical glitches.

Now after a couple of futile attempts by Pakistani engineers who made a secret visit to Myanmar in September 2022 to fix the problems, the military junta is fuming and if what sources say is to be believed, it has sent out “a stern message” to Islamabad to answer for the mess.

While at the same time it has been egging Beijing to intervene. A recent visit by the Myanmar’s Chinese envoy to Naypyitaw is said to have carried a message from the CCP’s top leadership to Gen Min Aung Hlaing.

According to sources, Pakistan is trying hard to renegotiate the deal with newer versions of the JF-17s. In all likelihood these new variants are will be developed by the same combination of Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and Chengdu Aircraft Industries Corporation of China.

However, so far there is little information on whether the renegotiated deal has been accepted by the military junta leadership. Informed sources say that the military junta is very upset as the non-utility of the aircrafts has hampered most of its plans of beefing up its airpower to carry out targeted strikes on Myanmar’s resistance groups which are fighting under the banner of the People’s Defence Force (PDF) an armed wing of the NUG.

Following the news of the crisis arising out of the malfunctioning of the JF-17s, Pakistan’s efforts to sell similar aircrafts to other countries, especially Latin American countries has hit a roadblock.

Now with the military junta in Myanmar refusing to get into any new talks on procuring aircrafts from Pakistan, other countries too have been reluctant to engage with Pakistan.

Besides the experience in Myanmar, the JF-17s has had a poor run in Nigeria as well. The Nigerian Airforce (NAF) had inducted 15 F-7 NI fighter aircraft in 2009. By 2018, six out of the 15 jets had crashed.



The remaining nine were rendered unserviceable. Five of these sent to China for heavy maintenance and upgrades which were received back by NAF in 2022. However soon after on July 2023, a FT-7 NI trainer aircraft supplied by China crashed.

Argentina is amongst the few countries which has refused to buy the JF -17s from China and Pakistan.

JF-17s utility and maintenance costs, and what it means

In fact, Myanmar was the first country to purchase the Pakistan and China combined JF-17 Thunder, aircraft in 2015. These aircrafts which rely on the Russian Klimov RD 93 aeroengine and western avionics and set up on a China-made airframe has huge operations and maintenance costs as compared to a modern weapon system.

According to international aeronautics experts, even after repairs the JF-17s would be “difficult to use” with proper technical know how at an operations level. This would mean that the Myanmar Air Force requires the expertise to be able to attend to the technical issues as and when it arises. The military junta has made plans to send its technicians to Islamabad to train on upgrades and maintenance, but that effort is on hold.

Experts also point to some crucial features of the JF-17s which they say is the China-made KLJ-7 Al radar. A vital component which is the beyond-visual-range (BVR) missile or airborne interception radar is also missing. According to one such expert this impacts the accuracy levels and as a result is not effective. Besides this “there are several other problems” even the body of the aircraft which is not made to withstand gravitational force and strong winds.

The Myanmar junta has been largely dependent on the strength of its aerial power with air strikes by the Myanmar Air Force on ethnic armed revolutionary organizations and civilians. It has been in talks with China and Pakistan to help it to build its air-to-surface missile capabilities using the JF-17s. But that process has not been easy for the military junta even after spending billions of dollars.

What needs to be highlighted is that China itself has not included a single JF-17s in its inventory till date.

 
So the Jf17 has structural flaws, malfunctions, technical glitches, maintenance costs, engine issues, AESA radar is missing (did the engineers forget to install it), unfit for operations, but Pakistan has inducted 150+ and is planning to take the numbers over 200 planes. Childish article and Nigeria didn't induct these planes back in 2009. If they were in fact having these issues then Pakistan would have rejected them, no way they would induct faulty planes.
 
So the Jf17 has structural flaws, malfunctions, technical glitches, maintenance costs, engine issues, AESA radar is missing (did the engineers forget to install it), unfit for operations, but Pakistan has inducted 150+ and is planning to take the numbers over 200 planes. Childish article and Nigeria didn't induct these planes back in 2009. If they were in fact having these issues then Pakistan would have rejected them, no way they would induct faulty planes.
they have to cope one way or another
 
This is a Burmese news source.
But apparently Propagated and marketing being done by the indians. BTW, in the past I had seen blogs with domain names suggesting that they belong to some other country but after looking up domain registry it was found out those were registered by some blogger in Mumbai. Cooking up fake stories against Pak / clickbaits. Whoever has written this story has written it in under 3 minutes and called up his "anonymous " sources in Pak and Myanmar airbases to verify all details ....wow!.. By the way on serious note, whoever has written is for only 1 reason and that's a clickbait for the indians. As you guys love masala and that too against Pakistan.
 
In what could be good news for the resistance movement and Myanmar’s National Unity Government (NUG), there appears to be shimmering tensions between Islamabad and Naypyitaw over the supply of a set of newly acquired JF-17s fighter planes.


Military junta leader Min Aung Hlaing is said to have expressed his displeasure to none other than Pakistan’s Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif and military chief, General Asim Munir as the aircrafts - JF-17 Thunder, a multi-role combat aircraft – which Pakistan has supplied to Myanmar between 2019 and 2021 have all been declared “unfit for operations.”

The newly acquired JF-17 Thunder, a multi-role combat aircraft from Pakistan had to be grounded owing to malfunctioning of the planes. The newly delivered planes are part of a deal which the Burmese military junta signed in 2016 to purchase JF-17 produced jointly by Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and Chengdu Aircraft Industries Corporation of China.

But soon after the delivery of the aircrafts the Burmese Air Force were forced to ground the planes as malfunctions and structural flaws were detected. A similar problem resulted with the new acquired fleets in 2022. There are a total of 11 JF-17 fighter jets but none are currently operational due to technical glitches.

Now after a couple of futile attempts by Pakistani engineers who made a secret visit to Myanmar in September 2022 to fix the problems, the military junta is fuming and if what sources say is to be believed, it has sent out “a stern message” to Islamabad to answer for the mess.

While at the same time it has been egging Beijing to intervene. A recent visit by the Myanmar’s Chinese envoy to Naypyitaw is said to have carried a message from the CCP’s top leadership to Gen Min Aung Hlaing.

According to sources, Pakistan is trying hard to renegotiate the deal with newer versions of the JF-17s. In all likelihood these new variants are will be developed by the same combination of Pakistan Aeronautical Complex and Chengdu Aircraft Industries Corporation of China.

However, so far there is little information on whether the renegotiated deal has been accepted by the military junta leadership. Informed sources say that the military junta is very upset as the non-utility of the aircrafts has hampered most of its plans of beefing up its airpower to carry out targeted strikes on Myanmar’s resistance groups which are fighting under the banner of the People’s Defence Force (PDF) an armed wing of the NUG.

Following the news of the crisis arising out of the malfunctioning of the JF-17s, Pakistan’s efforts to sell similar aircrafts to other countries, especially Latin American countries has hit a roadblock.

Now with the military junta in Myanmar refusing to get into any new talks on procuring aircrafts from Pakistan, other countries too have been reluctant to engage with Pakistan.

Besides the experience in Myanmar, the JF-17s has had a poor run in Nigeria as well. The Nigerian Airforce (NAF) had inducted 15 F-7 NI fighter aircraft in 2009. By 2018, six out of the 15 jets had crashed.



The remaining nine were rendered unserviceable. Five of these sent to China for heavy maintenance and upgrades which were received back by NAF in 2022. However soon after on July 2023, a FT-7 NI trainer aircraft supplied by China crashed.

Argentina is amongst the few countries which has refused to buy the JF -17s from China and Pakistan.

JF-17s utility and maintenance costs, and what it means

In fact, Myanmar was the first country to purchase the Pakistan and China combined JF-17 Thunder, aircraft in 2015. These aircrafts which rely on the Russian Klimov RD 93 aeroengine and western avionics and set up on a China-made airframe has huge operations and maintenance costs as compared to a modern weapon system.

According to international aeronautics experts, even after repairs the JF-17s would be “difficult to use” with proper technical know how at an operations level. This would mean that the Myanmar Air Force requires the expertise to be able to attend to the technical issues as and when it arises. The military junta has made plans to send its technicians to Islamabad to train on upgrades and maintenance, but that effort is on hold.

Experts also point to some crucial features of the JF-17s which they say is the China-made KLJ-7 Al radar. A vital component which is the beyond-visual-range (BVR) missile or airborne interception radar is also missing. According to one such expert this impacts the accuracy levels and as a result is not effective. Besides this “there are several other problems” even the body of the aircraft which is not made to withstand gravitational force and strong winds.

The Myanmar junta has been largely dependent on the strength of its aerial power with air strikes by the Myanmar Air Force on ethnic armed revolutionary organizations and civilians. It has been in talks with China and Pakistan to help it to build its air-to-surface missile capabilities using the JF-17s. But that process has not been easy for the military junta even after spending billions of dollars.

What needs to be highlighted is that China itself has not included a single JF-17s in its inventory till date.

Quick scroll through this narinjara site and loaded with anti Myanmar gov stuff

So likely a propaganda piece of opposition

When can you find a real journalistic source??
 
A tad difficult to take seriously an article written by a 9year old ..
This is from a fairly reputed news source:

PAF has had four crashes in peacetime:

It is not surprising if a fairly primitive country in the middle of many civil wars and battling international sanctions might not have the wherewithal to maintain a fleet of fighter aircraft.
 
A tad difficult to take seriously an article written by a 9year old ..

The hatred and bias written in the article speaks volumes . Dear indians you could not accept that Pakistani-Chinese JF-17s got successful sales over the Tejas. Have a big heart and take a chill pill.

Typical reactions !!!

No effort to check the veracity of facts.

No wonder, you guys will never acknowledge any problem. Therefore, question of finding the cause of problems and finding the solution never arise.

Good luck for your JF 17 (which is perfect and has no room for further improvements) 👍
 
Typical reactions !!!

No effort to check the veracity of facts.

No wonder, you guys will never acknowledge any problem. Therefore, question of finding the cause of problems and finding the solution never arise.

Good luck for your JF 17 (which is perfect and has no room for further improvements) 👍
It's a shitty *** Indian propaganda source, there's nothing to "acknowledge"

Maybe bring some actual credible sources instead of the past 3 shitty attempts at propaganda
 
It's a shitty *** Indian propaganda source, there's nothing to "acknowledge"

Maybe bring some actual credible sources instead of the past 3 shitty attempts at propaganda
Check again the source... It is reporting by Myanmar's news agency...

But Myanmar’s well-connected The Irrawaddy magazine reported in November that the new JF-17 fleet appears to have been entirely grounded due to a range of problems that the MAF is trying to work through with PAF training and technical assistance.

 
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