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Turkey could be on the brink of dictatorship​

President Erdogan could tip his country over the edge​

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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, or rather his shadow, has made the cover of this week’s issue of the Economist in a decidedly unflattering way, as a leader that has taken his country “to the brink of disaster.”

As the introduction to the financial paper’s report on the state of the country ahead of presidential and parliamentary elections states, “Mr Erdogan’s behavior as the election approaches could push what is today a deeply flawed democracy over the edge into a full-blown dictatorship.”

The Economist says Erdogan’s now 20-year-old reign was initially beneficial to Turkey: he mended the economy, neutralized the country’s meddling generals and secured, in 2005, the formal opening of accession talks to the EU, while putting his islamist agenda, which had alarmed the long-dominant secularist heirs to Kemal Ataturk, the Turkish Republic’s founder, mostly to the side.


But, as the paper points out, “the longer Mr Erdogan has been in power, the more autocratic he has grown.” Moving on from Prime Minister to President, he turned that mostly ceremonial post into a really powerful one in the service of an autocracy. “Approaching his third decade in power, he sits in a vast palace snapping orders at courtiers too frightened to tell him when he is wrong. His increasingly eccentric beliefs swiftly become public policy,” the article says.

Erdogan once likened democracy to a tram journey: when you reach your destination, you get off. His treatment of mayor of Istanbul, Ekrem Imamoglu, whom the Economist calls the “most plausible rival” for the presidency is indicative. A 2-year prison term and a ban from politics for calling election officials who had annulled his first election “idiots” have taken Imamoglu out of the presidential race if the conviction is not annulled or overturned and have cast doubt that the election will be fair or free, the Economist says.

Internationally, Erdogan could cause trouble for Greece and Cyprus by “foment[ing] fiercer territorial quarrels; he could “create further confusion and strife in Syria”; he could “allow the 5m migrants and refugees in Turkey to set sail for southern Europe.” And he could continue to block the accession of Finaland and Sweden into NATO.


Yet, the Economist contends, Erdogan cannot afford to make a total break with the West, because he needs investments and he needs armaments. But, the article argues, it is time for a firmer stance by western powers, beginning with the US. “Mr Erdogan is a bully who sees timidity as a reason to press his advantage and toughness as an incentive to mend fences,” the Economist says.


 
He's been ruling for...what? 20 years now? I'm surprised he didn't hold a referandum to bring back the Sultanate with him as Sultan and Oktay as Grand Vezier.
 
Erdogan's Turkey is already an authoritarian state, where he exterminates and hunts down political opponents, calls everyone who doesn't obey as terrorists.
Thousands of Turks are now political refugees around the world.
 
Erdogan's Turkey is already an authoritarian state, where he exterminates and hunts down political opponents, calls everyone who doesn't obey as terrorists.
Thousands of Turks are now political refugees around the world.
Exactly that.
 

Turkey could be on the brink of dictatorship​

President Erdogan could tip his country over the edge​

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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, or rather his shadow, has made the cover of this week’s issue of the Economist in a decidedly unflattering way, as a leader that has taken his country “to the brink of disaster.”

As the introduction to the financial paper’s report on the state of the country ahead of presidential and parliamentary elections states, “Mr Erdogan’s behavior as the election approaches could push what is today a deeply flawed democracy over the edge into a full-blown dictatorship.”

The Economist says Erdogan’s now 20-year-old reign was initially beneficial to Turkey: he mended the economy, neutralized the country’s meddling generals and secured, in 2005, the formal opening of accession talks to the EU, while putting his islamist agenda, which had alarmed the long-dominant secularist heirs to Kemal Ataturk, the Turkish Republic’s founder, mostly to the side.


But, as the paper points out, “the longer Mr Erdogan has been in power, the more autocratic he has grown.” Moving on from Prime Minister to President, he turned that mostly ceremonial post into a really powerful one in the service of an autocracy. “Approaching his third decade in power, he sits in a vast palace snapping orders at courtiers too frightened to tell him when he is wrong. His increasingly eccentric beliefs swiftly become public policy,” the article says.

Erdogan once likened democracy to a tram journey: when you reach your destination, you get off. His treatment of mayor of Istanbul, Ekrem Imamoglu, whom the Economist calls the “most plausible rival” for the presidency is indicative. A 2-year prison term and a ban from politics for calling election officials who had annulled his first election “idiots” have taken Imamoglu out of the presidential race if the conviction is not annulled or overturned and have cast doubt that the election will be fair or free, the Economist says.

Internationally, Erdogan could cause trouble for Greece and Cyprus by “foment[ing] fiercer territorial quarrels; he could “create further confusion and strife in Syria”; he could “allow the 5m migrants and refugees in Turkey to set sail for southern Europe.” And he could continue to block the accession of Finaland and Sweden into NATO.


Yet, the Economist contends, Erdogan cannot afford to make a total break with the West, because he needs investments and he needs armaments. But, the article argues, it is time for a firmer stance by western powers, beginning with the US. “Mr Erdogan is a bully who sees timidity as a reason to press his advantage and toughness as an incentive to mend fences,” the Economist says.


Absolutely rubbish propaganda
 
He's been ruling for...what? 20 years now? I'm surprised he didn't hold a referandum to bring back the Sultanate with him as Sultan and Oktay as Grand Vezier.
He tried to arrange a meeting with Assad to gain votes of the ones that are tired of NATO’s trouble making in Syria. Guess what, Assad didn't accept that.

Syrian government announced that they won't allow it until Turkey’s occupation forces leave northern areas of the country.
 
The Economist is on of the mouthpieces of the Neo-cons.

A democratically elected dictator? They will bad mouth any one who isn't a vassal of the West.
Democracy does not only mean elections, but also freedom of expression and will.
With Turkey's prisons
full of dissidents, countries outside Turkey full of Turkish citizens on political refugee claim, opposition leaders in prison or barred from elections, this is not democracy, but half a step before dictatorship.
 

Turkey could be on the brink of dictatorship​

President Erdogan could tip his country over the edge​

View attachment 912287

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, or rather his shadow, has made the cover of this week’s issue of the Economist in a decidedly unflattering way, as a leader that has taken his country “to the brink of disaster.”

As the introduction to the financial paper’s report on the state of the country ahead of presidential and parliamentary elections states, “Mr Erdogan’s behavior as the election approaches could push what is today a deeply flawed democracy over the edge into a full-blown dictatorship.”

The Economist says Erdogan’s now 20-year-old reign was initially beneficial to Turkey: he mended the economy, neutralized the country’s meddling generals and secured, in 2005, the formal opening of accession talks to the EU, while putting his islamist agenda, which had alarmed the long-dominant secularist heirs to Kemal Ataturk, the Turkish Republic’s founder, mostly to the side.


But, as the paper points out, “the longer Mr Erdogan has been in power, the more autocratic he has grown.” Moving on from Prime Minister to President, he turned that mostly ceremonial post into a really powerful one in the service of an autocracy. “Approaching his third decade in power, he sits in a vast palace snapping orders at courtiers too frightened to tell him when he is wrong. His increasingly eccentric beliefs swiftly become public policy,” the article says.

Erdogan once likened democracy to a tram journey: when you reach your destination, you get off. His treatment of mayor of Istanbul, Ekrem Imamoglu, whom the Economist calls the “most plausible rival” for the presidency is indicative. A 2-year prison term and a ban from politics for calling election officials who had annulled his first election “idiots” have taken Imamoglu out of the presidential race if the conviction is not annulled or overturned and have cast doubt that the election will be fair or free, the Economist says.

Internationally, Erdogan could cause trouble for Greece and Cyprus by “foment[ing] fiercer territorial quarrels; he could “create further confusion and strife in Syria”; he could “allow the 5m migrants and refugees in Turkey to set sail for southern Europe.” And he could continue to block the accession of Finaland and Sweden into NATO.


Yet, the Economist contends, Erdogan cannot afford to make a total break with the West, because he needs investments and he needs armaments. But, the article argues, it is time for a firmer stance by western powers, beginning with the US. “Mr Erdogan is a bully who sees timidity as a reason to press his advantage and toughness as an incentive to mend fences,” the Economist says.


Bro, you're iranian. Which is prefectly fine. but let's not call turkey out for authoritarianism
 
Bro, you're iranian. Which is prefectly fine. but let's not call turkey out for authoritarianism
Well, non of Iranians presidents was allowed to have more than 2 terms in office. Iranian leader is a religious figure not a governmental personality. If you said that about Syria then i would have agreed with you. But Mr Erdogan has crossed all the limits for a president and a non religious figure.
 
Well, non of Iranians presidents was allowed to have more than 2 terms in office. Iranian leader is a religious figure not a governmental personality. If you said that about Syria then i would have agreed with you. But Mr Erdogan has crossed all the limits for a president and a non religious figure.
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Well, non of Iranians presidents was allowed to have more than 2 terms in office. Iranian leader is a religious figure not a governmental personality. If you said that about Syria then i would have agreed with you. But Mr Erdogan has crossed all the limits for a president and a non religious figure.
Those are flimsy things. What matters is how the people are getting treated. @Foinikas also pointed out some pertinent things, like corruption and nepotism.

I google about protestors killed in turkey and on the top i got the gezi park protests all the way back in 2013 where 22 (or maybe more) people died.

I google about protestors killed in iran and I got this
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Now some of these website may well be anti Iranian, but they are at best exaggerating, not making the entire thing up. You know better than non-iranians about the recent protests.
 

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