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Joy Yang first wrote in Chinese about her experience as a person from the mainland living in Hong Kong. Her story was a hit on Weibo and sparked heated discussion. She has translated her article into English to share with SCMP readers.

We constantly hear Hong Kong locals complain about people who visit from the mainland and buy up milk powder or take up space in maternity wards, but rarely are the voices of those from the mainland heard.

My first impression of Hong Kong was not a good one. I was part of a batch of 28 undergraduates who had arrived from top universities on the mainland to study at the University of Hong Kong in 1999. I was 18 and excited about starting an adult life in the “Pearl of the Orient”, with its fancy shops, pop stars and legends of successful businessmen.

This excitement was soon replaced by anger and disappointment. A few days after arriving, a tutor at the hall of residence and a local female student came to my room and asked if they could search it. The girl said her mobile phone had been stolen. They rummaged through our bags then left with no apologies. But it was clearly written on their faces what they were thinking: “Where the hell are these two poor mainland girls hiding my mobile phone?”

Joy Yang works in the financial industry in Hong Kong. Photo: Joy YangI felt angry, but, sadly, it was not the last time this would happen. When something went missing in the hall of residence, the mainland students were always the first ones, and for most of the time the only ones, to be suspected. What was particularly insulting was that most of the suspected stolen items were insignificant - a slice of cheese or a bottle of milk. Yes, China’s per-capita GDP was low, but were we so poor in those locals’ eyes that even an orange was worth stealing?

After such bad experiences, I was always ready to strike back whenever I felt insulted or discriminated against. One time a local asked for my help on her class project comparing Hong Kong with Shanghai. Her first question was whether there was karaoke in Shanghai. Such an ignorant question offended my big Shanghainese ego. And when she asked about the living conditions there, I answered, with full arrogance: “My home in Shanghai was more than 1,000 square feet. How big is your home in Hong Kong?”

I did not make many good friends with local students at first, but I did not care. I don’t have to blend into the local culture, I told myself.

Sooner or later, those Hongkongers will recognise that mainland China is no longer a poor country, and we will influence the world with our growing economic and political power – more than Hong Kong does. So why should I care about blending into the local culture?

I could have kept “fighting” like that until one incident changed me.

After many conflicts I had with local students, the student union decided to kick me out of the hall of residence. The last straw, I believed, was when I defended a mainland tutor at a meeting and argued that her critics were discriminating against mainlanders. The mainlanders are my ally, and Hongkongers are our common enemy – I truly believed it at that time.

But when the student union labelled me as a troublemaker, not only did the tutor not speak out for me as I did for her, but she also turned her back on me.

“Who asked her to fight with the local students?” she told others behind my back. I felt betrayed.

I started losing hope that I would find a place to live until a Hong Kong tutor called me to say that the hall of residence had decided to give me another chance. She said some locals had argued that I was simply from a different culture and that the hall should welcome different views.

I was shocked when I heard that.

Betrayed by my ally only to be saved by my enemy - that completely changed my mentality. I became more receptive to local culture. More locals said they were eager to learn from me about the mainland, and I apologised to them, admitting that I had been too extreme in the past.

What I want to say is simple: blending into Hong Kong’s local culture is not that difficult, if we have the right attitude. That is what I learned 10 years ago. I left Hong Kong in 2002 for graduate school in the US, with full appreciation of what Hong Kong had taught me, both academically and non-academically.

But life is always more complicated than we think. I returned to Hong Kong in 2011, after studying and working in the US for nine years. Nowadays in Hong Kong, I find that blending into the local culture is not as simple as 10 years ago.

I started noticing the rapidly changing dynamics between locals and mainlanders from afar.

For example, HKU offers one-year exchange programmes for its undergraduates to study abroad. Students are selected based on academic performance and extra-curriculum activities. Each year we received about four to five HKU students in Los Angeles, and usually three or four of them were students originally from the mainland.

This had to do with the rising population of mainland students in Hong Kong. Back in my day, the economics department only had three to four mainland students. We got As most of the time, but plenty of As were left for local students. Today the economics department has about 20 to 30 mainland students, and when they get most of the As, as I heard from a HKU professor, a B is the best that a local student can hope for.

It’s not about who is smarter. After all, one is selected from a population of 1.4 billion and the other is from a population of seven million. Even though universities are supposed to be a place for fair competition, it is understandable why many Hong Kong students dislike their mainland peers. Ten years ago we “stole” apples and milk; today we “steal” As in class.

The younger generation from the mainland constantly outperforms locals in other aspects too. They score high in exams, participate in social activities and even speak better English than many local students. “We invited investment bankers to give seminars on campus,” an HKU professor said, “and after, all the mainland students rushed to socialise with the speaker, handed in their resumes and asked for internship opportunities, while many local students just hid themselves in the back rows.”

My speculation that Hongkongers felt threatened by mainlanders was confirmed when I returned in 2011. Yes, there are more mainlanders in Hong Kong than ever, and Hong Kong has never been this close to its motherland. But if you think that made my life here easier, you are wrong. Locals are rejecting mainland people and culture harder than before.

That’s why I realise that having a happy life in Hong Kong is no longer as simple as having the right attitude. It is harder to blend into the local culture than 10 years ago because the pushback from local people is harder than ever. This view is probably not shared by some of my mainland peers living in Hong Kong. Some of them do not think it necessary to blend into the local culture. “I earn more money than most of the Hongkongers” and “I always ask them to speak Putonghua to me”, one of my Beijing friends said with pride.

Resistance from locals is particularly obvious in two areas – the financial sector and the working class. The lack of transparency and the unique Chinese culture are often challenging for foreigners working in the Chinese market. Top investment banks and hedge funds prefer to hire mainlanders – over Hongkongers, ABCs and Westerners – for their China business knowledge. In Central, Putonghua is becoming a popular language, not only in shopping malls, but also in offices.

Working-class people are probably the ones who are mostly affected and, to some extent, squeezed. They face shortages of milk powder and of hospital beds, and a crowded Ocean Park - I would complain too if I were a local.

The problem is not unique to Hong Kong. Beijingers and Shanghainese complain about new migrants in their cities too. It’s all about competition for limited social welfare. In some aspects, Hong Kong is worse off. At least for a baby born in Shanghai or Beijing, she is not qualified for a hukou [residency permit] in the city if neither parent has one. But in Hong Kong, any child born here would automatically get access to the social welfare system – even if their parents are not permanent Hong Kong residents.

So who should be blamed for the rising tension between Hong Kong and the mainland? In my view, some Hong Kong media could take more responsibility. They could be fairer and stop reporting biased stories for the sake of boosting sales. The central government should also take more decisive actions to solve its food safety problem, so that mainland mums do not have to travel to Hong Kong for milk powder. Joint efforts by Hong Kong people, mainlanders, media and government will make the city a friendlier place to study, work and live.



I’d like to ask a question to end my story: nowadays in Hong Kong, should I speak Putonghua or Cantonese when I go shopping? I tried once to speak Cantonese in the Harbour City shopping mall, but the saleswoman turned away and greeted other mainland shoppers with her fluent Putonghua. I then tried to speak Putonghua at another store in Causeway Bay and received good service. But when I decided to leave without buying any shoes, the salesperson’s face went dark. She asked angrily: “Why you don’t buy? They are so cheap! And it’s another 20 per cent off if you pay with RMB!” I realised finally that it’s not about language; it’s all about your wallet.



Joy Yang is from Shanghai. She studied at the University of Hong Kong and at the University of California, Los Angeles in the US. She worked in Washington DC as an economist for the International Monetary Fund and now works in the financial industry in Hong Kong

Why living in Hong Kong as mainland Chinese is no piece of cake | South China Morning Post
 
I always read these personal experience pieces as an entertainment only and wouldn't take them as facts. They can be so easily manipulated.
 
Betrayed by my ally only to be saved by my enemy - that completely changed my mentality. I became more receptive to local culture. More locals said they were eager to learn from me about the mainland, and I apologised to them, admitting that I had been too extreme in the past.

What I want to say is simple: blending into Hong Kong’s local culture is not that difficult, if we have the right attitude. That is what I learned 10 years ago. I left Hong Kong in 2002 for graduate school in the US, with full appreciation of what Hong Kong had taught me, both academically and non-academically.

Agreed. It is all about mentality, whether you are looking for the good side or looking for the bad side.

Personally as a Hong Konger, I have always felt welcomed by mainlanders when I visit there, and many of my closest friends here are mainlanders as well.

As for whether to speak in Cantonese or Mandarin, it is simple. I reply to a person in the language/dialect they opened the conversation with, whether it is Cantonese/Mandarin or English.
 
Agree 100%. The vast majority of HK Chinese and oversea Chinese know that a united China is the only way to go. It does not mean that we are not concern about the problems our government has such as mid level corruptions, pollution and retaining talents etc, we just want it to do better, as we share the same ancestry.

Agreed. It is all about mentality, whether you are looking for the good side or looking for the bad side.

Personally as a Hong Konger, I have always felt welcomed by mainlanders when I visit there, and many of my closest friends here are mainlanders as well.

As for whether to speak in Cantonese or Mandarin, it is simple. I reply to a person in the language/dialect they opened the conversation with, whether it is Cantonese/Mandarin or English.
 
When I see a video on facebook about some 鬼佬s or Japanese doing something stupid things, some HK members just laugh and say that 鬼佬s are so creative blahblahblah. When I see a video about Mainlanders doing stupid thing, they just call them stupid and even cursing around with no reason. Interesting.
 
With so many people living under such high pressure there are bound to be different mentalities, don't let that bother you.
"half bottle full make the most noise"

When I see a video on facebook about some 鬼佬s or Japanese doing something stupid things, some HK members just laugh and say that 鬼佬s are so creative blahblahblah. When I see a video about Mainlanders doing stupid thing, they just call them stupid and even cursing around with no reason. Interesting.
 
With so many people living under such high pressure there are bound to be different mentalities, don't let that bother you.
"half bottle full make the most noise"

I am just worry about the future.
With so many half full bottles nowadays, I can't see any hope.
 
When I see a video on facebook about some 鬼佬s or Japanese doing something stupid things, some HK members just laugh and say that 鬼佬s are so creative blahblahblah. When I see a video about Mainlanders doing stupid thing, they just call them stupid and even cursing around with no reason. Interesting.

That's because HK people still equate West with coolness, and the ML backwardness. I am glad I am living in an interesting time in Chinese history. Pre Qing Dynasty, we viewed the rest of world as barbarous, After Qing and up to 1990s, we questioned everything Chinese and tried to borrow everything foreign, first from France, then from Japan, from Britain, from U.S. Now more and more people are becoming more rationale and come to terms with ourselves.
 
I think one dark side about Chinese culture (or perhaps more or less in any other culture as well) is regional discrimination. You can hear all sorts of such expressions in Shanghai, Beijing,...

Chinese Central Government should be partially responsible for that. The Hukou system, the regional graded salary system (at least previously), the college entrance exam system... regional discrimination all over these places.

Tell us why the hack a lower score native Beijing kids can get into good universities, but a higher score Beijing migrate workers' kids can't, even not allowed to sit the exam! WTF is that! :taz: The universities belong to all the Chinese, not just big city kids!

Confucius said: no discrimination in education (有教无类).

Hate CPC on that...
 
I think one dark side about Chinese culture (or perhaps more or less in any other culture as well) is regional discrimination. You can hear all sorts of such expressions in Shanghai, Beijing,...

Chinese Central Government should be partially responsible for that. The Hukou system, the regional graded salary system (at least previously), the college entrance exam system... regional discrimination all over these places.

Tell us why the hack a lower score native Beijing kids can get into good universities, but a higher score Beijing migrate workers' kids can't, even not allowed to sit the exam! WTF is that! :taz: The universities belong to all the Chinese, not just big city kids!

Confucius said: no discrimination in education (有教无类).

Hate CPC on that...

It's called self interest. Too sad that those city people control the government, so naturally they would set up a system to benefit themselves, as long as those policies are tolerable to rural Chinese. Plus, rural Chinese are very tolerant. But gradually, more and more rural Chinese see the unfair treatment, and the Central Government now has to gradually siphon more wealth into rural areas.

Rural uprisings have toppled dynasties after dynasties in China, and the CCP grabbed the power through rural Chinese uprising/support, so they better know the consequence of neglecting rural China or they would be next KMT.
 
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