what's the sect. of TLY ?

[BATMAN]

I have asked question#1 many times but SURPRISINGLY no reply.

1- Kindly help me to learn about the sect. of TLY ?

2- Why they associate Pakistan with their name! As usual if this sect. is special to Pakistan or this sect. also exists in rest of Islamic world ?

3- In which year this sect. was formed ?

4- What's the position of Khadam Hussein Rizvi in TLY cult ?

Thanks in advance.
BAT.

 

[El Sidd]

1) Pakistani Islam
2) Pakistan movement was supported by their Ancestors religiously.
3) 1947
4) Mic guy

1) Pakistani Islam
2) Pakistan movement was supported by their Ancestors religiously.
3) 1947
4) Mic guy

Btw this is Propaganda

 

[BATMAN]

1) Pakistani Islam
2) Pakistan movement was supported by their Ancestors religiously.
3) 1947
4) Mic guy

I tend to agree answer# 1 but not sure about the rest.
1) its true Pakistan regularly invent sects.
2) Only Muslims of Punjab supported Pakistan movement. Beyond Lahore, Gujranwala, Sialkot, there was not much action.
3) i'm from Pakistan, i have seen new sects. popping up towards end of 1990's but TLY didn't existed at that time. In recent years, I have seen rest of the sects. also gone more fanatics than their ancestors were.
Every month their is some sort of sect. festival celebrated in Pakistan, and state sponsor it by declaring state holiday.
4) To me it seems, he has objective of sinking Pakistan and part of India's cold start.

 

[El Sidd]

I tend to agree answer# 1 but not sure about the rest.
1) its true Pakistan regularly invent sects.
2) Only Muslims of Punjab supported Pakistan movement. Beyond Lahore, Gujranwala, Sialkot, there was not much action.
3) i'm from Pakistan, i have seen new sects. popping up towards end of 1990's but TLY didn't existed at that time. In recent years, I have seen rest of the sects. also gone more fanatics than their ancestors were.
Every month their is some sort of sect. festival celebrated in Pakistan, and state sponsor it by declaring state holiday.
4) To me it seems, he has objective of sinking Pakistan and part of India's cold start.

Why are you afraid of war btw?

Sects are only sects if you believe in sects.

Punjab has Population and electoral Monopoly as an administrative Unit designed by colonial powers perfected by colonial slaves.
The State of Pakistan does not recognize Sects. It only recognizes fiqh and the consensus of it by the prevailing populace. Holidays are tax earners just right. You gather enough People for ANYONE on a Single Platform. You will get a holiday too

 

[war&peace]

They are from all.

 

[BHarwana]

I tend to agree answer# 1 but not sure about the rest.
1) its true Pakistan regularly invent sects.
2) Only Muslims of Punjab supported Pakistan movement. Beyond Lahore, Gujranwala, Sialkot, there was not much action.
3) i'm from Pakistan, i have seen new sects. popping up towards end of 1990's but TLY didn't existed at that time. In recent years, I have seen rest of the sects. also gone more fanatics than their ancestors were.
Every month their is some sort of sect. festival celebrated in Pakistan, and state sponsor it by declaring state holiday.
4) To me it seems, he has objective of sinking Pakistan and part of India's cold start.

TLY is not a sect they are a political party.

 

[Death Professor]

labaik labaik......

 

[BATMAN]

Why are you afraid of war btw?

Sects are only sects if you believe in sects.

Punjab has Population and electoral Monopoly as an administrative Unit designed by colonial powers perfected by colonial slaves.
The State of Pakistan does not recognize Sects. It only recognizes fiqh and the consensus of it by the prevailing populace. Holidays are tax earners just right. You gather enough People for ANYONE on a Single Platform. You will get a holiday too

Collecting people in street is criminal, irrespective of what ever is the reason and which ever is the sect.
Putting up sectarian flags is a sign of state within state. I hope you understand, what it means to a sect. less person in Pakistan.
Now Pakistan has become a state, where each person must attach him self to a sect. otherwise, he is abused, accused and might even be killed in street with label of gustakh.
There's no tolerance among Pakistanis for a person, who is sect. less.

TLY is not a sect they are a political party.

Like Jamat Islami?

labaik labaik......

Are you a political party or a sect.?

Can you answer any of my question in OP?

 

[El Sidd]

Collecting people in street is criminal, irrespective of what ever is the reason and which ever is the sect.
Putting up sectarian flags is a sign of state within state. I hope you understand it means to a common man.
Now Pakistan has become a state, where each person must attach him self to a sect. otherwise, he is abused, accused and might even be killed in street with label of gustakh.
There's no tolerance among Pakistanis for a person, who is sect. less.

Seems to be a rough Patch this. All sects have 99.99 percent things common more or less. So why discuss those 0.001 percent difference which is just natural thing in theology. In the end People must and will revert to the Basics. Why not wait it out?


Governments play colonial protectionist Tricks to keep the divide and rule going strong. Why Fall for it? Have you Seen how they discuss in parliament by labeling each other still for the choice of their fathers?

As far as Groups are concerned. No flag raises above Pakistans flag in Pakistan. People make flags they are cool so why unnecessarily Stop them? Plus its a requirement too from the ECP.

Like they say. Jhanda aur nishaan zaror lana. Danda ham laenge aur nishaan e ibrat banayenge.

 

[BHarwana]

Like Jamat Islami?

Yes like that. It is a political party not sect.

 

[BATMAN]

Yes like that. It is a political party not sect.

Is it possible for emir of Jamat Islami to assume position of Khadam Hussein Rizvi in TLY?

 

[Yaseen1]

They are mostly from brelvi sect they took strength after deobandis are defamed and lost support due to ttp terrorism as most ttp members are from deobandi sect .In past peer Naseer of golra shareef was very good and prominent personality of brelvi sect and he was very humble but after his death khadim rizvi take his position and filled the space created

 

[BHarwana]

Is it possible for emir of Jamat Islami to assume position of Khadam Hussein Rizvi in TLY?

Technically yes but practically no. In Pakistan it is hard to replace the head of any political party. If you consider TLY yes you can say it is a sect based political party. Calling TLY A sect is wrong. You can say their marketing strategy is targeting only a particular class.

Why TLY happened? It happened because some political forces pushed too far to achieve their goals and this gave them space to attract the people who were being hurt and this political party came into shape.

If the attempt to change the oath would not have been made there would not have been any TLY but someone pushed his agenda too much and now we have TLY.

 

[Dawood Ibrahim]

They're heaven's parrots (Barelvi)

 

[BATMAN]

They're heaven's parrots (Barelvi)

I heard this sect. name before but never seen them so prominent, crazy and non-sense. I clearly see a negative change.
I guess situation would be same with rest of the sects. as well.

They are mostly from brelvi sect they took strength after deobandis are defamed and lost support due to ttp terrorism as most ttp members are from deobandi sect .In past peer Naseer of golra shareef was very good and prominent personality of brelvi sect and he was very humble but after his death khadim rizvi take his position and filled the space created

Thanks God, rest of the Islamic world don't have sects. like Islamic States.
Thanks to you as well, for helping me to know their sect. i will stay away from them and never make any family relations with such BS and un-Islamic people.

They're heaven's parrots (Barelvi)

You mean their green cap! They indeed look stupid, with those sectarian caps.
State should not allow such sort of grouping and mafiasim.
As we see, it's already hurting. Only good dimension is that they are not following any foreign state's religion, otherwise they would also be doing money laundering and treason in addition to getting crazy.