US court compensates Muslims after their request to license a mosque was refused

[The SC]

The Bayon City Court in New Jersey has reached a settlement with a group of Muslims in the city who asked for a permit to build a mosque. Their request was rejected because of Bayon's opposition to the opening of the mosque. The court decided to pay $ 400,000 to Muslims for racism they were unjustifiably subjected to. The court granted them the opportunity to re-apply for a mosque license.

Muslims in Bayon have been subjected to a large-scale racist campaign by some ultra-Orthodox New Jerseyers, with leaflets calling for the boycott of Muslim-owned companies with references to the Sept. 11 attacks and writings on the walls of Muslim-run centers such as "Save Bayon" and "Stop the Mosque ".

The Federal Department of Justice opened an investigation into the city's racist decision to avoid repeating it.

Bayon Muslim President Abdelhamid Bout said in a statement: "We are very grateful for the support of many of our fellow citizens of Bayon in this long conflict and we are confident that our request will be approved". And we look forward to welcoming the people of Bayon from all religions in the first mosque in the city."

http://www.alriyadh.com/1658869

 

[Solomon2]

While it may be discrimination, concerns about parking and traffic may be valid. Traffic issues can be handled by additional traffic lights or turn lanes but the parking issue isn't so easy to address.

While it may be technically correct that Jews' Orthodox synagogues in the area do O.K. despite having little parking compared to the size of their membership as a practical matter this works because Orthodox Jews walk to or from their places of worship on Shabbat and holidays since driving at these times is forbidden.

Unless I'm mistaken there are no such restrictions on Muslims, right? Members attending will therefore require lots of street parking. This is an issue that may create friction between Muslim and the non-Muslim members of the community - and make any existing friction worse.

There is also the request for a safety waiver: is it that the warehouse is so close to other buildings that evacuation of large numbers of people in a fire emergency is risky?

 

[Rusty]

While it may be discrimination, concerns about parking and traffic may be valid. Traffic issues can be handled by additional traffic lights or turn lanes but the parking issue isn't so easy to address.

While it may be technically correct that Jews' Orthodox synagogues in the area do O.K. despite having little parking compared to the size of their membership as a practical matter this works because Orthodox Jews walk to or from their places of worship on Shabbat and holidays since driving at these times is forbidden.

Unless I'm mistaken there are no such restrictions on Muslims, right? Members attending will therefore require lots of street parking. This is an issue that may create friction between Muslim and the non-Muslim members of the community - and make any existing friction worse.

There is also the request for a safety waiver: is it that the warehouse is so close to other buildings that evacuation of large numbers of people in a fire emergency is risky?

You are just pissed that those Muslims were not simply shot, like they do in Iseral.

 

[Solomon2]

You are just pissed that those Muslims were not simply shot, like they do in Iseral.

More about the case here: https://www.law.com/njlawjournal/si...ement-of-mosque-suit/?slreturn=20180101164957

The court-ordered compensation actually doesn't settle whether the mosque will be approved or not but imposes time constraints and judicial supervision on the process. Plus, there's a separate federal investigation of the local gov't on this issue. And much of the money awarded to the plaintiffs isn't going to be applied towards the mosque itself, according to their attorneys. This case may become even more interesting.

 

[NakedLunch]

More about the case here: https://www.law.com/njlawjournal/si...ement-of-mosque-suit/?slreturn=20180101164957

The court-ordered compensation actually doesn't settle whether the mosque will be approved or not but imposes time constraints and judicial supervision on the process. Plus, there's a separate federal investigation of the local gov't on this issue. And much of the money awarded to the plaintiffs isn't going to be applied towards the mosque itself, according to their attorneys. This case may become even more interesting.[/QUOTES

Israel is like a burglar that tries to obtain squater's rights. It wont work no matter how much cow manure you try and feed the world- the Old Testament is not a Title Deed.

 

[omegalamba7XL9]

While it may be discrimination, concerns about parking and traffic may be valid. Traffic issues can be handled by additional traffic lights or turn lanes but the parking issue isn't so easy to address.

While it may be technically correct that Jews' Orthodox synagogues in the area do O.K. despite having little parking compared to the size of their membership as a practical matter this works because Orthodox Jews walk to or from their places of worship on Shabbat and holidays since driving at these times is forbidden.

Unless I'm mistaken there are no such restrictions on Muslims, right? Members attending will therefore require lots of street parking. This is an issue that may create friction between Muslim and the non-Muslim members of the community - and make any existing friction worse.

There is also the request for a safety waiver: is it that the warehouse is so close to other buildings that evacuation of large numbers of people in a fire emergency is risky?[/QUOTE
Man you are so full of it. Parking really? I think you should take a visit to borough park Brooklyn and other neighborhoods like them and you know who is in majority in borough park and Williamsburg in Brooklyn. I'm sure you have travelled there as well did you see how they park? Double parked tripled parked and so on but city never complains. Call spade a spade. We know who controls the tristate area and all those anti Muslim groups get very big donations from borough park Williamsburg community. I won't make make em but you definitely know them.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Clutching at straws ........... come out in the open and say you are a racist. Parking my ***.

While it may be discrimination, concerns about parking and traffic may be valid. Traffic issues can be handled by additional traffic lights or turn lanes but the parking issue isn't so easy to address.

While it may be technically correct that Jews' Orthodox synagogues in the area do O.K. despite having little parking compared to the size of their membership as a practical matter this works because Orthodox Jews walk to or from their places of worship on Shabbat and holidays since driving at these times is forbidden.

Unless I'm mistaken there are no such restrictions on Muslims, right? Members attending will therefore require lots of street parking. This is an issue that may create friction between Muslim and the non-Muslim members of the community - and make any existing friction worse.

There is also the request for a safety waiver: is it that the warehouse is so close to other buildings that evacuation of large numbers of people in a fire emergency is risky?

 

[TheDarkKnight]

Racisim whether is against jews or muslims should be condemned. Your chart is just another propoganda based on racist views against the Palestinians i.e. broadly classifying an entire race or population.

 

[Solomon2]

Clutching at straws ........... come out in the open and say you are a racist. Parking my ***.

Hardly. In America zoning and building codes are real issues that apply to everybody, regardless of religion or ethnic group. I take it from your reaction that in Pakistan, at least in practice, there are no such issues for mosques?

The U.S. mostly follows international building codes and fire safety codes but zoning codes are local. I'm not familiar with the Bayonne community myself, but I've seen this played out in some other areas. Perhaps Bayonne could have taken care of this situation with more sensitivity and tact.

For comparison, one local government I'm familiar with handles such "technical" matters with a Muslim code examiner who has a Jewish boss. This Muslim was probably the most intimidating bureaucrat I ever met, for instead of decorating his office with pictures of his family his walls and desk had photographs of collapsed decks and structures and his face wore a look that said, "You're not going to get anything out of the ordinary past me." And his boss always backed him up. So the type of suit filed in Bayonne, New Jersey, would be unthinkable in that jurisdiction.

In another jurisdiction I proposed that yes, a Muslim school's request to install their own traffic light should be approved but that a paved shoulder and turn lane should be added and that the local government should pay for it. Because while the traffic light was there for the school, the turn lane would benefit everyone using the road. Although the planning board hearing was for the school and it's request for permission to install a traffic light at the school's expense, adding the government's commitment to improvements at this point was important because the matter would then be on record when approved by the full County board, so the paved shoulder and turn lane would automatically follow without any further ado.

...I think you should take a visit to borough park Brooklyn and other neighborhoods like them and you know who is in majority in borough park and Williamsburg in Brooklyn. I'm sure you have travelled there as well...We know who controls the tristate area -

No, I have not. As I mentioned above, zoning codes are local. There is no one government that controls both New York and New Jersey. (What's the third state you have in mind?)

 

[Rusty]

More about the case here: https://www.law.com/njlawjournal/si...ement-of-mosque-suit/?slreturn=20180101164957

The court-ordered compensation actually doesn't settle whether the mosque will be approved or not but imposes time constraints and judicial supervision on the process. Plus, there's a separate federal investigation of the local gov't on this issue. And much of the money awarded to the plaintiffs isn't going to be applied towards the mosque itself, according to their attorneys. This case may become even more interesting.

And the correct response to that is that Isreal has already ethnically cleansed Palestine of it's indigenous peoples. An act that is considered a crime against Humanity.

The problem with you people is that you already ethnically cleansed 3 continents and won't be happy until you do the same to the remaining two.

 

[Hack-Hook]

While it may be discrimination, concerns about parking and traffic may be valid. Traffic issues can be handled by additional traffic lights or turn lanes but the parking issue isn't so easy to address.

While it may be technically correct that Jews' Orthodox synagogues in the area do O.K. despite having little parking compared to the size of their membership as a practical matter this works because Orthodox Jews walk to or from their places of worship on Shabbat and holidays since driving at these times is forbidden.

Unless I'm mistaken there are no such restrictions on Muslims, right? Members attending will therefore require lots of street parking. This is an issue that may create friction between Muslim and the non-Muslim members of the community - and make any existing friction worse.

There is also the request for a safety waiver: is it that the warehouse is so close to other buildings that evacuation of large numbers of people in a fire emergency is risky?

I don't think parking lots can be a valid hindrance here the city simply can ask them to build for example 40 or 50 or more parking space in several floor under the mosque building.

also its not like all days the mosque is fulled , only in weekend and holidays that you expect it get fully filled

 

[Solomon2]

I don't think parking lots can be a valid hindrance here the city simply can ask them to build for example 40 or 50 or more parking space in several floor under the mosque building.

Sure, if the plan was to gut the building and build a new one. But in this case the proposal is to keep the existing warehouse and perform the minimal modifications necessary to convert it to assembly occupancy and conform to local zoning requirements.

 

[Mugwop]

Imagine the reaction of trump's supporters and solomon's aunty pamela geller

 

[NakedLunch]

Imagine the reaction of trump's supporters and solomon's aunty pamela geller

Pamela Geller is an aunty? Looks more like an uncle with breasts. LOL!

 

[Mugwop]

Pamela Geller is an aunty? Looks more like an uncle with breasts. LOL!

I didn't want to hurt solomon's feelings but it's too late now