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U.S. F-14 vs Libyan MIG-23 [Real Audio]

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On 4 January 1989, two Grumman F-14 Tomcats of the United States Navy shot down two Libyan-operated Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-23s which the Americans believed were attempting to engage them. The engagement took place over the Mediterranean Sea about 40 miles north of Tobruk, Libya.
 
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pilots of middle east nations are not well trained,give any russian jet to german or other country with capable pilots then results will be different as evident on red october exercise in germany with simulated dogfight between mig29 piloted by german pilots and f/A-18 of u.s
 
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Libyans were probably trying to investigate radar signature of F14s or were trying to harass U.S naval group.

It's surprising why the F14s or the carrier didn't give any radio warnings to the libyans. Which they usually do to PLAN in South China Sea.
 
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pilots of middle east nations are not well trained,give any russian jet to german or other country with capable pilots then results will be different as evident on red october exercise in germany with simulated dogfight between mig29 piloted by german pilots and f/A-18 of u.s
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down left: an iranian f-4 dodged two US RIM-66.
down right: an f-5 dodged an AIM-9L from US f-14B
also IRIAF back in 80s without having any stealth in posses targeted H-3 airbase in iraq in the western part of it bordering syria with 8 f-4s.
also i have a footage from a dissimilar air combat between f-14 and mig-29 which f-14 wins the dogfight.
not all ME air forces are incompetent.
 
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The same audio (portions of it) were used in the intro of Falcon 4.0 and little bit was used in intro of Falcon 3.0 intro as well

Yeah that audio has been around for many years now. Youtube channel Growling Sidewinder also uses the 'good kill, good kill' audio from it in its introduction.
 
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down left: an iranian f-4 dodged two US RIM-66.
down right: an f-5 dodged an AIM-9L from US f-14B
also IRIAF back in 80s without having any stealth in posses targeted H-3 airbase in iraq in the western part of it bordering syria with 8 f-4s.
also i have a footage from a dissimilar air combat between f-14 and mig-29 which f-14 wins the dogfight.
not all ME air forces are incompetent.

And then there was this:

The Action of June 5, 1984 was an air battle which took place near Arabi Island in the Persian Gulf. Two Iranian Air Force F-4 Phantoms from Bushehr Air Base, entered Saudi airspace to attack merchant shipping (oil tankers). The planes were tracked by a United States Air Force E-3 Sentry AWACS aircraft, which directed two Saudi F-15 Eagles to intercept the Iranians. The Saudis shot down 1 Iranian F-4 Phantom, killing 1st Lts Homayoun Hekmati & weapon systems officer Seyed Sirous Karimi, while damaging the second F-4, which despite being damaged, was able to make an emergency landing at Kish Airport. This caused the Iranians to scramble 11 additional F-4s and F-14s from Bushehr. In response, the Royal Saudi Air Force scrambled 11 additional F-15s. Nevertheless, both sides broke off the engagement.

The Saudi Air Force was supported by American E-3 Sentry AWACS aircraft as well as by KC-10 aerial tankers.[1][2]. New evidence revealed from US classified documents, pointed that the saudi F-15s, were in fact piloted by US instructors flying for the RSAF [3]. Given the fact that numerous reports through the years, have noted the saudi fighter pilots poor performance in combat situations & their unwillingness to engage in dogfights, this fact is almost certain.[4].[5].[6]
 
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And then there was this:

The Action of June 5, 1984 was an air battle which took place near Arabi Island in the Persian Gulf. Two Iranian Air Force F-4 Phantoms from Bushehr Air Base, entered Saudi airspace to attack merchant shipping (oil tankers). The planes were tracked by a United States Air Force E-3 Sentry AWACS aircraft, which directed two Saudi F-15 Eagles to intercept the Iranians. The Saudis shot down 1 Iranian F-4 Phantom, killing 1st Lts Homayoun Hekmati & weapon systems officer Seyed Sirous Karimi, while damaging the second F-4, which despite being damaged, was able to make an emergency landing at Kish Airport. This caused the Iranians to scramble 11 additional F-4s and F-14s from Bushehr. In response, the Royal Saudi Air Force scrambled 11 additional F-15s. Nevertheless, both sides broke off the engagement.

The Saudi Air Force was supported by American E-3 Sentry AWACS aircraft as well as by KC-10 aerial tankers.[1][2]. New evidence revealed from US classified documents, pointed that the saudi F-15s, were in fact piloted by US instructors flying for the RSAF [3]. Given the fact that numerous reports through the years, have noted the saudi fighter pilots poor performance in combat situations & their unwillingness to engage in dogfights, this fact is almost certain.[4].[5].[6]
the f-4s were not there to fight KSA...
 
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