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Turkey's Election Was Soaked in Suppression and Blood

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The AKP won because Erdogan used two dirty weapons. One: violence against the Kurdish political movement, including the armed PKK. And two: authoritarianism.

He killed civilians in the Kurdish majority Southeast during day-long curfews and "operations," bombed the PKK in Turkey and in the Qandil mountains in Iraq, jailed democratically elected mayors, didn't do anything to prevent violence against offices and rallies of the HDP (the leftist party rooted in the Kurdish movement) and increased the pressure on newspapers not yet under his control. And it worked -- he won 49 percent of the vote.

Not that it has anything to do with democracy whatsoever, of course. The victory is soaked in suppression and blood. And the chance that Erdogan has had enough now is small. More media will be raided. Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu vowed to fight the PKK until the last man is standing, and Erdogan outright denied an agreement between the Kurds and the state reached earlier this year. The war rhetoric to gain votes didn't change to talk of peace after the majority was won back: Erdogan hurried to rant against the PKK in his first address after the polling stations closed.

The core of the Turkish state and of its constitution is that it protects itself -- not the citizens it is supposed to serve.


But if the AKP hadn't succeeded, what difference would it have made? There may have been coalition talks with the ultra nationalist MHP or the biggest opposition party CHP. The talks would have failed and only to lead to new elections in spring next year. Or the coalition for sure would not have survived until the next elections in 2019. The secular CHP and religious AKP, after all, represent strongly opposing groups in society. AKP and MHP are both nationalist and religious so their coalition may have lasted longer, but only with more violence and an end to any talks with the PKK -- MHP set that condition clearly after the previous elections.

So, was all resistance against the AKP futile to begin with? No, it wasn't. Erdogan didn't introduce authoritarianism in Turkey. The country has never been democratic in its now 92-year existence. The core of the Turkish state and of its constitution is that it protects itself -- not the citizens it is supposed to serve. Davutoglu just vowed to change the constitution for the better but the party made that promise before and never delivered on it. Why would they, since it serves their interests so well?

What makes Turkey's authoritarianism, especially the AKP's, so hard to battle, is that it is covered with a thin layer of democracy. Elections are being held, the turnout is high, no wide range fraud was reported, four parties made it into parliament. But the campaign was all but democratic, given the government's violence, further control over the press and detention of opposition politicians.

What makes Turkey's authoritarianism, especially the AKP's, so hard to battle, is that it is covered with a thin layer of democracy.


Such a polished dictatorship can't be fought with most of the opposition groups that Turkey has to offer. For example, what qualifies as "opposition media" nowadays? There are the papers and TV channels tied to Fethullah Gülen, a U.S.-based religious leader who hardly ever speaks in public and denies being in politics at all but who was once Erdogan's close ally. And there's an ultra-nationalist pamphlet that just rants against Erdogan without any smart journalistic skill.

Even worse: none of the groups in society who feel represented by these media actually offer a solid alternative to the AKP. And that includes the biggest opposition party, CHP, which is divided between those who still believe in old-fashioned Kemalism, which invented state-centrism, and those who try in vain to be proper social democrats. No wonder they haven't been able to challenge the AKP in any way since the AKP won its first elections in 2002.

Smart, slick dictators like Erdogan can only be undermined by a party -- or better yet, a movement -- that is well-organized and persistent. Turkey has such a movement -- the HDP. Its roots go back some 40 years, when eyes were already wide open to the realities of the Turkish state. In those days, it was just a small group of rebellious women and men who later became known as the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), but over the years they have grown into an extremely well-organized, resilient and persistent mass people's movement with clear objectives (grassroots democracy, equality, pluralism).

Such a polished dictatorship can't be fought with most of the opposition groups that Turkey has to offer.


The HDP, the leftist party that emerged from this movement, joined the elections for the first time in June this year. Its predecessors were just focused on the Kurdish problem and had to run as independents to get around Turkey's 10 percent election threshold. But the HDP is a party for the whole of Turkey that passed the threshold easily with 13 percent of the votes. Sunday, it lost votes due to Erdogan's wicked ways and barely crossed 10 percent, but they are still in parliament. They and the mass movement behind them are there to stay.

HDP co-leaders Selahattin Demirtas and Figen Yüksekdag stated Sunday night that they would continue their struggle for democracy for all. And that's what they'll do, inspired by their democratic goal and undistracted by a will for power. This is the solid resistance that Erdogan -- and the state-centered system that supports him -- should be afraid of.

 
Turkey's Election Was Soaked in Suppression and Blood

n-TURKEY-PROTEST-large570.jpg

The AKP won because Erdogan used two dirty weapons. One: violence against the Kurdish political movement, including the armed PKK. And two: authoritarianism.

He killed civilians in the Kurdish majority Southeast during day-long curfews and "operations," bombed the PKK in Turkey and in the Qandil mountains in Iraq, jailed democratically elected mayors, didn't do anything to prevent violence against offices and rallies of the HDP (the leftist party rooted in the Kurdish movement) and increased the pressure on newspapers not yet under his control. And it worked -- he won 49 percent of the vote.

Not that it has anything to do with democracy whatsoever, of course. The victory is soaked in suppression and blood. And the chance that Erdogan has had enough now is small. More media will be raided. Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu vowed to fight the PKK until the last man is standing, and Erdogan outright denied an agreement between the Kurds and the state reached earlier this year. The war rhetoric to gain votes didn't change to talk of peace after the majority was won back: Erdogan hurried to rant against the PKK in his first address after the polling stations closed.

The core of the Turkish state and of its constitution is that it protects itself -- not the citizens it is supposed to serve.


But if the AKP hadn't succeeded, what difference would it have made? There may have been coalition talks with the ultra nationalist MHP or the biggest opposition party CHP. The talks would have failed and only to lead to new elections in spring next year. Or the coalition for sure would not have survived until the next elections in 2019. The secular CHP and religious AKP, after all, represent strongly opposing groups in society. AKP and MHP are both nationalist and religious so their coalition may have lasted longer, but only with more violence and an end to any talks with the PKK -- MHP set that condition clearly after the previous elections.

So, was all resistance against the AKP futile to begin with? No, it wasn't. Erdogan didn't introduce authoritarianism in Turkey. The country has never been democratic in its now 92-year existence. The core of the Turkish state and of its constitution is that it protects itself -- not the citizens it is supposed to serve. Davutoglu just vowed to change the constitution for the better but the party made that promise before and never delivered on it. Why would they, since it serves their interests so well?

What makes Turkey's authoritarianism, especially the AKP's, so hard to battle, is that it is covered with a thin layer of democracy. Elections are being held, the turnout is high, no wide range fraud was reported, four parties made it into parliament. But the campaign was all but democratic, given the government's violence, further control over the press and detention of opposition politicians.

What makes Turkey's authoritarianism, especially the AKP's, so hard to battle, is that it is covered with a thin layer of democracy.


Such a polished dictatorship can't be fought with most of the opposition groups that Turkey has to offer. For example, what qualifies as "opposition media" nowadays? There are the papers and TV channels tied to Fethullah Gülen, a U.S.-based religious leader who hardly ever speaks in public and denies being in politics at all but who was once Erdogan's close ally. And there's an ultra-nationalist pamphlet that just rants against Erdogan without any smart journalistic skill.

Even worse: none of the groups in society who feel represented by these media actually offer a solid alternative to the AKP. And that includes the biggest opposition party, CHP, which is divided between those who still believe in old-fashioned Kemalism, which invented state-centrism, and those who try in vain to be proper social democrats. No wonder they haven't been able to challenge the AKP in any way since the AKP won its first elections in 2002.

Smart, slick dictators like Erdogan can only be undermined by a party -- or better yet, a movement -- that is well-organized and persistent. Turkey has such a movement -- the HDP. Its roots go back some 40 years, when eyes were already wide open to the realities of the Turkish state. In those days, it was just a small group of rebellious women and men who later became known as the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), but over the years they have grown into an extremely well-organized, resilient and persistent mass people's movement with clear objectives (grassroots democracy, equality, pluralism).

Such a polished dictatorship can't be fought with most of the opposition groups that Turkey has to offer.


The HDP, the leftist party that emerged from this movement, joined the elections for the first time in June this year. Its predecessors were just focused on the Kurdish problem and had to run as independents to get around Turkey's 10 percent election threshold. But the HDP is a party for the whole of Turkey that passed the threshold easily with 13 percent of the votes. Sunday, it lost votes due to Erdogan's wicked ways and barely crossed 10 percent, but they are still in parliament. They and the mass movement behind them are there to stay.

HDP co-leaders Selahattin Demirtas and Figen Yüksekdag stated Sunday night that they would continue their struggle for democracy for all. And that's what they'll do, inspired by their democratic goal and undistracted by a will for power. This is the solid resistance that Erdogan -- and the state-centered system that supports him -- should be afraid of.

Erdogan has every single right to use violence against a terrorist group. Many people forget the economic conditions before and after Erdogan.
 
Erdogan has every single right to use violence against a terrorist group. Many people forget the economic conditions before and after Erdogan.
Please give us a break! Erdogan was behind ISIS, he is ISIS!. He went after the Kurds because they embarrassed him in the summer election.He turned to violence to create an uncertainty in the country to force his grip on Turkey. He is not going to stop the unraveling of the country, Kurds will separate from Turkey, sooner or later.
 
Please give us a break! Erdogan was behind ISIS, he is ISIS!. He went after the Kurds because they embarrassed him in the summer election.He turned to violence to create an uncertainty in the country to force his grip on Turkey. He is not going to stop the unraveling of the country, Kurds will separate from Turkey, sooner or later.
The Kurds and Armenians will break away while their Turkish oppressors are busy fighting each other
 
Please give us a break! Erdogan was behind ISIS, he is ISIS!. He went after the Kurds because they embarrassed him in the summer election.He turned to violence to create an uncertainty in the country to force his grip on Turkey. He is not going to stop the unraveling of the country, Kurds will separate from Turkey, sooner or later.

Why wish to tear the already town Ummah even more? You make me sick.
 
Let that barbarian talk, violence against kurds? Pkk teror organisation oppres ther own people to vote for HDP. Who is killing and oppressing who?

And that other guy can suck armenians if he want it. Every post against Turks he is talking about armenians:-).
 
These arabs are unable to find their own countries on world map. They started talking about international politics, this is like a very bad joke
do you even know what you are talking about ? look at the size of Algria on the map
 
These arabs are unable to find their own countries on world map. They started talking about international politics, this is like a very bad joke

Unnecessary comment ! :disagree:

That sick faggot is the only responsible of what he says.
 
The Kurds and Armenians will break away while their Turkish oppressors are busy fighting each other
I don't think the Armenian are desirous enough to leave Turkeyto join Armenia, but the Kurds have a finger on the trigger and their sight on an independent state.

Why wish to tear the already town Ummah even more? You make me sick.
The Ummah is a myth and died with the ones who believed in it...Zulfikhar Ali Bhutto, Houari Boumediene and King Faysal

These arabs are unable to find their own countries on world map. They started talking about international politics, this is like a very bad joke
Get your head out of the toilet, Algeria is almost 3 times bigger than Turkey...and the bigger country in Africa. For a guy who's countrymen stayed 4 centuries in Algeria should know some of the history of his country....

Let that barbarian talk, violence against kurds? Pkk teror organisation oppres ther own people to vote for HDP. Who is killing and oppressing who?

And that other guy can suck armenians if he want it. Every post against Turks he is talking about armenians:-).
We lived with you for 4 centuries, there is no one in this earth knowing you better than the Berbers....A lot of hot air and no traction!
After the last summer election where his power was disputed by the rising Kurdish party with its young leadership, Ergo Merde turned to violence to create a climate of fear... The Turks chose stability and re-elected him...But what the Turks elected, is the amputation of Turkey of her Kurdish population , that will certainly lead to a land seperation before the dust settles in the ME.
 
You think being pro-Turkey = being racist ?
No, you can't be a racist...A racist is someone who think , believe, act that he is superior to others with a fist ,no necessary a brain, to back it up!...You, my little spineless earth worm, Israel showed your petiteness, ( how insignificant Turkey is), followed by NATO that use Turkey as busboy, and last EU who rejected over and over to open their living room to you. We are berbers, and barbarians to the invaders...But to your kind, we ignored your @sses for 4 centuries, and there is nothing that can kill a soul than rejection and loneliness..the proof , the first French bullet, you dropped your pants, surrendered ,for a safe passage to Constantinople...

You seem, you personally have 400 years of b*tthurt in you and that's why:
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You make me laugh...at your tears of despair...The rest of the world look at your country as ,an overblown toad....In a year from now, the Kurd will leave you by force, and Turkey will be like big wingless dodo.
 
No, you can't be a racist...A racist is someone who think , believe, act that he is superior to others with a fist ,no necessary a brain, to back it up!...You, my little spineless earth worm, Israel showed your petiteness, ( how insignificant Turkey is), followed by NATO that use Turkey as busboy, and last EU who rejected over and over to open their living room to you. We are berbers, and barbarians to the invaders...But to your kind, we ignored your @sses for 4 centuries, and there is nothing that can kill a soul than rejection and loneliness..the proof , the first French bullet, you dropped your pants, surrendered ,for a safe passage to Constantinople...
Said the stateless guy. :p:
 

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