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Hypothetical Question

Consider the statement below

THE TRUTH is, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al-Qaeda, and any informed intelligence officer knows this. But, there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an intensified entity representing the Devil only in order to drive TV watchers to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is US"

Now assume 9/11 and the war on Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are smokes and mirrors, and no terror groups like ISIS or the Taliban or Al-Qeada actually exist but only represent an 'image'.

  • What is the identity of the Devil?
  • Are they a race of people in human form?
  • Are they made of magic, are they physical entities, non-physical entities?
  • Is there one devil or more than one devil?
  • How are devils different than human?
  • What do they look like?
  • Where are they?
  • Why did they utilise Kuranic terminology (e.g Al-Qaeda) when referring to the entity representing the devil?
  • What do they look like in your mind?
 
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According to Quran, devil or syaitan consists of both Djin and Human. Human can also be a devil or syaithan.

Surah Annas (Quran)

Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind,

The Sovereign of mankind.

The God of mankind,

From the evil of the retreating whisperer -

Who whispers [evil] into the breasts of mankind

From among the jinn and mankind."






 
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According to Quran, devil or syaitan consists of both Djin and Human. Human can also be a devil or syaithan.

Surah Annas (Quran)

Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind,

The Sovereign of mankind.

The God of mankind,

From the evil of the retreating whisperer -

Who whispers [evil] into the breasts of mankind

From among the jinn and mankind."






Yes I have considered that approach, but it would also be useful to look at the concept of the devil across all religions and cultures.

For example,

the Persians have a concept of Asura (Good) vs Deva (Evil)
the Hindus have a concept of Asura (Evil) vs Deva (Good)

According to Quran, devil or syaitan consists of both Djin and Human. Human can also be a devil or syaithan.

Surah Annas (Quran)

Say, "I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind,

The Sovereign of mankind.

The God of mankind,

From the evil of the retreating whisperer -

Who whispers [evil] into the breasts of mankind

From among the jinn and mankind."







According to some Islamic sources, before humans, the hinn, binn, timm, rimm, jann and jinn roamed the earth. These six periods symbolize a negative progress until humans emerge. These are part of the "circle of time", belonging to a period preceding the creation of mankind. The Habtar is the personification of evil and these pre-human creatures as subordinates of the devil.
 
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Yes I have considered that approach, but it would also be useful to look at the concept of the devil across all religions and cultures.

For example,

the Persians have a concept of Asura (Good) vs Deva (Evil)
the Hindus have a concept of Asura (Evil) vs Deva (Good)




According to some Islamic sources, before humans, the hinn, binn, timm, rimm, jann and jinn roamed the earth. These six periods symbolize a negative progress until humans emerge. These are part of the "circle of time", belonging to a period preceding the creation of mankind. The Habtar is the personification of evil and these pre-human creatures as subordinates of the devil.

Before Human there is another creature that is like Human who inhibit the earth. There is human before Adam among them is like Homo erectus and so on. According to Quran when God wanted to create man, the angel show opposition by saying that they dont like human who like to make destruction. The God then said He know what He is doing and then created Adam who are a different kind of human. He created a thinking human like us.

There is also iblis who come from Jinn who are previously worshiping God diligently (like angel) for so long and refused to bow to Adam and because of that he is cursed and become iblis who is a leader of devil.

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Previous Human (Before Adam)

Java Man (Homo erectus erectus; Javanese: Manungsa Jawa; Indonesian: Manusia Jawa) is early human fossils discovered on the island of Java (Indonesia) in 1891 and 1892. Led by Eugène Dubois, the excavation team uncovered a tooth, a skullcap, and a thighbone at Trinil on the banks of the Solo River in East Java. Arguing that the fossils represented the "missing link" between apes and humans, Dubois gave the species the scientific nameAnthropopithecus erectus, then later renamed it Pithecanthropus erectus.
 
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Hypothetical Question

Consider the statement below

"THE TRUTH IS, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al-Qaeda, and any informed intelligence officer knows this. But, there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an intensified entity representing the Devil only in order to drive TV watchers to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is US"

Now assume 9/11 and the war on Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are smokes and mirrors, and no terror groups like ISIS or the Taliban or Al-Qeada actually exist but only represent an 'image'.


@KhalaiMakhlooq,
Trust me it is the typical game of selling weapons and capturing natural resources from other nations.There is no devil involved in it.In addition to that, we do hear of Freemasons or illuminati all the time and the rotating stories of their rituals, owl dance and other nonsense but you need to understand that nothing has destroyed muslims more than their own carelessness.It is the same economic war, 4+ gen cold war and the game of selling weapons and making nations fight.
The world is filled with morons who worship themselves.Whether they call it God or Devil, the story for us is still the same.If we as muslims will stick to the guidelines of Quran and be patient, nothing will destroy us.If we become racist, began to do corruption and will not follow the guidelines of Allah(SWT) and his last Prophet Muhammed(P.B.U.H) then, a little wind will be enough to sweep us from the land.
1- What is the identity of the Devil?
Before the formation of mankind, there were another specie that had inhabited earth and still coexist with us.According to Islam they are called Jinns.Amongst them there was one jinn whom was known as Iblees.Iblees offered prayers for 50,000 years with such intensity that he was raised to the levels of angels.He had performed several tasks centuries ago prior to his demotion.
He was given several titles and raised to the degree for his performance.However, with the passage of time pride began to pollute his heart .We know that pride and grace are the veils of creator and no one has right to pride except the creator himself.However, Iblees forgot his reality and the seeds perfectly sprouted when he denied to bow infront of Adam. When asked he said that he is composed of fire(gas) and human is made of mud(organic molecules).Hence, he hold superiority and will not bow in front of Adam.Hence, he was rejected and denied.

2-Are they a race of people in human form?
No.They have entirely different composition.Man is composed of mud(Organic/inorganic molecules) whereas Jinns are composed of Gas.They live a pretty decent and normal life like we do.Not all jinns are magicians just like not all humans are magicians.They adopt different faith, seek guidance, might be helping or evil.They marry, have children and are as much unaware as we are.

3-Are they made of magic, are they physical entities, non-physical entities?
They are not made of magic.They are made of gas.Magic is just a negative/forbidden knowledge that establish connection between a seeking man with Djinn.
Jinns are creatures like us.They are composed of gas (smokeless fire as stated by Quran) according to Quran.They reproduce, have wives, live a normal life and have different faiths and follow different ideologies just like humans do.They exist but cannot be seen due to several reasons.Islam takes off the fear of unseen jinns and cracks the truth that they are species like us.Nothing to worry about.
Read here: http://ahadees.com/englisharabicurdu-surah-72.html
Jinns also betrayed in past, messengers were sent among them.The last prophet who was jinn is called Yousuf.(Not prophet Yousuf or Joseph but the one amongst them.When they martyred him they were told that they will now follow human messengers and because of their mischief, messengers among them will no longer be sent.)

4-Is there one devil or more than one devil?
Iblis or devil was just like other jinns.After he denied and insisted his sin, he was granted different powers to put people to illusion and pathetic whispers.He also know several prayers due to his glorious past and has negative powers due to negative present.He is perfectly able to marry and has several generations from him.We seek Allah's refuge from him.

5-How are devils different than human?
As I told you, devils are made of gas and since many are descendant of Devil therefore are completely different as compare to regular Jinn and humans.Just like amongst humans there are several groups, in the same way there are several group amongst jinns.So, chill out!

6-What do they look like?
A typical jinn has slender body according to Azeemia School of thought and is capable to shape shift.Appearance depends upon their choice, i guess

7-Where are they?
The devils are told to stay away from humans.The common ones lives near human civilizations.However, certain natural laws forbid them to mix and appear with humans.A choice neither a kind jinn wanted nor a man wanted.

8-Why did they utilise Kuranic terminology when referring to the devil?
I don't understand your question.I guess that you are trying to ask about wich terminologies are used for satan in Quran which I can answer.
Shaitan. Every surah starts with a verse of seeking Allah's refuge from Shaitan accursed.Another term being used was Iblees.

9-What do they look like in your mind
That is the most interesting thing.In reality, you never meet with any jinn, maukil or angel.Unless, you are not a well taught and well trained person, you will never be able to see any jinn.99 percent times it is our mind that gathers available information and puts on display while we asleep.You need to make sure that windows are opened properly and you are not involved in any chronic disease such as Bronchitis since shortage of oxygen or inappropriate room temperature causes nightmares of jinns.

regards
 
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Are there any people on the forum that can shed light on what their concept of 'devil' is?

Especially people of non-Muslim faith like Zoroastrian, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian etc.

I'm trying to gather as much info from all sources about identifying the devil.

Thanks
 
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Hypothetical Question

Consider the statement below

"THE TRUTH IS, there is no Islamic army or terrorist group called Al-Qaeda, and any informed intelligence officer knows this. But, there is a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an intensified entity representing the Devil only in order to drive TV watchers to accept a unified international leadership for a war against terrorism. The country behind this propaganda is US"

Now assume 9/11 and the war on Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan are smokes and mirrors, and no terror groups like ISIS or the Taliban or Al-Qeada actually exist but only represent an 'image'.


What is the identity of the Devil?
Are they a race of people in human form?
Are they made of magic, are they physical entities, non-physical entities?
Is there one devil or more than one devil?
How are devils different than human?
What do they look like?
Where are they?
Why did they utilise Kuranic terminology when referring to the devil?
What do they look like in your mind?

There is no Devil and please put down what so ever you are smoking.

People see devil and monsters because they need a personification of all their problems, real and imagined. Its just like how people see 'kids and babies' in their pets. They are projecting.
 
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Are there any people on the forum that can shed light on what their concept of 'devil' is?

Especially people of non-Muslim faith like Zoroastrian, Hindu, Buddhist, Christian etc.

I'm trying to gather as much info from all sources about identifying the devil.

Thanks

read about jack parsons these so call great investors get thier ideas from jinn iblis himself.
 
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Some contextual quotes with regards to premise of the OP

We are dealing with a criminal undertaking at a global level…The global war on terrorism…is fake, it’s based on fake premises. It tells us that somehow America and the Western world are going after a fictitious enemy, the Islamic state, when in fact the Islamic state is fully supported and financed by the Western military alliance and America’s allies in the Persian Gulf. They say Muslims are terrorists…they’re not the product of Muslim society, and that should be abundantly clear…The global war on terrorism is a fabrication, a big lie and a crime against humanity. Leading Canadian Economist

Washington’s enemy is an enemy that doesn’t exist. It didn’t exist when Bin Laden was alive, it doesn’t exist now. CIA Chief of the Bin Laden Issue Station

Most terrorists are false flag terrorists, or are created by our own security services. In the United States, every single terrorist incident we have had has been a false flag, or has been an informant pushed on by the FBI. In fact, we now have citizens taking out restraining orders against FBI informants that are trying to incite terrorism. We’ve become a lunatic asylum. Marine Corps intelligence officer of 20 years, and the second highest-ranking civilian in the U.S. Marine Corps Intelligence

Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those conscience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank God for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception. American Writer
 
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  • What is the identity of the Devil?
  • Are they a race of people in human form?
  • Are they made of magic, are they physical entities, non-physical entities?
  • Is there one devil or more than one devil?
  • How are devils different than human?
  • What do they look like?
  • Where are they?
  • Why did they utilise Kuranic terminology (e.g Al-Qaeda) when referring to the entity representing the devil?
  • What do they look like in your mind?

Can anyone bring light to WAAIHWWWW?
 
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