Terror attacks at home handiwork of insiders, says Pakistan

[Kumar]

Terror attacks at home handiwork of insiders: Pak


Terror attacks at home handiwork of insiders, says Pakistan

Rattled by a wave of suicide bombings, the Pakistan government has said that such attacks were perpetrated by people from within the country and not by Indians or Americans, a rare candid statement from authorities.

Those carrying out terrorist attacks in Pakistan are neither Indians nor Americans, Interior Ministry chief Advisor Rehman Malik told a seminar organised in Lahore [Images] on Saturday by a society affiliated to the influential 'Jang Group of Newspapers'.

"Rather, they are our own brethren while those who were urging them to do so were also our own people," Malik was quoted as saying by newspapers.

The war on terror would continue "till the last terrorist was eliminated" as it was a war for the survival of the country, he said.

"Our own people are involved in terrorism. However, the arms and rocket launchers seized in tribal areas are coming from across the border (with Afghanistan)," Malik said in an obvious reference to the missile attacks by the US-led forces coalition forces.

Authorities had arrested at least 14 would-be suicide bombers due to effective and improved security measures. Out of 10,000 foreigners who came to Pakistan after the end of the Afghan war against the Soviet Union, 3,000 had married local women in the tribal areas and were "now living as sons-in-law of the tribal people", he said.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Glad the GoP is putting this truth front and center.

Regardless of who is financing these groups, the fact remains that the acts themselves are committed by Pakistanis, in the name of "Islam".

 

[muse]

Good , now lets get on with the butcher work - it has to be done and done now.

 

[IceCold]

However, the arms and rocket launchers seized in tribal areas are coming from across the border (with Afghanistan)

Well maybe the case, as the interior minister said however when i read this particular line, i have to think otherwise. Malik maybe denying now since after Mr president came back from Washinton, but before that he was actually the one who said it loud and clear that both the CIA and RAW is involved in creating trouble inside FATA area. He also provided evidence to the US when PM was there and the US said we will look into the matter as it was a completely new evidence for them.
My 2 centts on the issue are that the people involved maybe Pakistanis or muslims but the support to them is obviously coming from across the border. Being Pakistanis is no big deal, obviously whoever is behind the whole thing has to recruit locals of that area to make it look like all home grown but this does not mean both RAW and CIA has their hands clean. I think Malik is making a mistake here not to openly accept the reality and opening it up to the Pakistani people who deserve to know the truth.

 

[Kasrkin]

Indians sure have a talent for reporting foreign news in a way that is out of context, inconsistent with the ground perception, prone to disregarding part of the story and completely attested of the official Indian position.

 

[ashfaque]

I do not know why our Pakistani friends rate a pathetic RAW so high. Even if they wish to do some thing, they would not be able to..

This is result of last 30 years Policy of Pakistan to support extremists in the name of Jihad, freedom fight and some time to gain geo strategic advantage. Pakistan was sitting on pile of explosive from last 30 years. What other have done, gave a spark of fire, rest of work is done by Pakistan made explosives (extremists).

I know many friends here will find my comment harsh, but this thought is getting recognised by many Pakistanis too. If any one want I can give few Pakistani TV isccusion link. check pakistanherald.com

 

[batmannow]

frist of all this( Rediff news.com) isnt the credible source & this news item, isnt the credible one too, by the way i am sure, mr Rehman Malik can eat his own words , if the times comes. Rehman Malik is a special Advisor to president zardari on Interior affairs, & he has been given the responisiblites to plan and execute the measures of protection of pakistan and pakistanis but he lacks most of the skills required for the job.
as a reminder, Rehman Malik was the security cheif of BENAZIR BHUTTO & he was responsible of the security failure , which resulted in the murder of the PPP chairperson BENAZIR BHUTTO.
it was the frist major, assignment in which , he failed,& most of the crrunt security failures can be blamed on him, because of his unexperienced & un mature attitude.
Well , about pakistanis involved in acts of terror, i guss 50% of un educated , & unemployed pakistanis had the sympathies towards the alqaeeda and talibans because , they not trust USA & this CIA backed pakistani goverment. but it can be belived that ! thier sympathies with terrorists are on the fall very sharply due to attacks of terrorists on innocent pakistani civillians?

 

[PeaceForAll]

So what if the terrorists strikes are because of ppl belonging to Pak? the ideology is from somewhere else.. jus like you ppl claim about the 'Indian Mujahideen'. each country is playing mischief with the neoghbour here and that has to stop somewhere. Better be soon for our economies to grow.. else we will me stuck in this quicksand.

 

[maqsad]

So if this is the work of insiders then who are the insiders and how does the govt know that they have no foreign support? So we are supposed to believe that:

1) All terrorist attacks are the work of Pakistanis living in Pakistan. The GoP knows that these are all Pakistanis but has no idea who they are or where they are. OK.

2) No terrorist group is funded from abroad and no terrorist group recieves weapons or intelligence information(SIGINT and HUMINT) from abroad. The CIA, RAW, Mossad and MI6 do not conduct any covert ops through proxies within pakistan. It is all done by locals who want to blow things up for some reason.

3) Moral support, urgings, financial support and weapons are also being provided by locals to locals.



Ok so supposing one considers the above three points. It doesn't explain WHY all of a sudden after 2002 and a war declared on a noun all this just starts happening. Why would people just randomly decide to start blowing things up. Religious nutjobs were around all the time but why are they suddenly so active.

How is it that supposedly ISI and MI have been able to keep RAW, CIA and Mossad etc from supporting all terrorism in Pakistan as the GoP just claimed, yet...these same agencies cannot stop homegrown locals from organising terrorist attacks? It doesn't really add up, so much is missing. What do these terrorists actually want, is it a shariah caliphate or is something else going on?

 

[DarkStar]

I think we are barking up the wrong tree. If our people are being used willingly, or foolishly, they are still at fault.

The problem is not weapons, and money. MIschief makers always tend to find a sponsor.

The problem is countering the ideology of kharjite/takfiri violence. I would not call it jihad, or jihadi, because such terrorism has nothing to do with jihad, rather it is the antithesis of jihad.

These people are nothing more than sick minded individuals, some brainwashed, others not, who have a fixation with violence, and who justify their lusts by distorting certain religious texts.

Now whoever is decimating this ideology, who is really behind it, is a matter of speculation. But what can be done is to counter this ideology with the help of intellectuals, scholars (including Deobandi, Wahabi, Shia, etc), wrtiers, philosophers, etc.

Such scholars, intellectuals, former members of the civil/military establishment who do not clearly stand up and condemnt this violence should be put into jail as a matter of urgency, until they renounce their views. Many of these people are stoking the flames in the media, and giving people a wrong impression. Dare I add, journalists should come in this category too. It is about time the journalistic profession was not treated as infallible and above the law.

This countering should be done, while the extremists are isolated, and put to the gun.

This two pronged strategy is the only solution, as has been successfully implemented in Egypt (the mother land of takfiri ideology) and recently Saudi Arabia.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

I would urge the Pakistanis on this forum to stop for a minute, and read DS's post.

We have to recognize that the Taliban ideology is not being created by India, the suicide bombers are not blowing themselves up in the name of Hanuman - these are Muslims and Pakistanis who are following a perverted form of Islam, that India perhaps is exploiting through Afghanistan, but nonetheless remains a Pakistani problem in the sense that this ideology has to be uprooted, and this ideology exists in Pakistan.

If the ideology does not remain, then there will be no one for India or Afghanistan to exploit. As DS said, "mischief makers will always find another sponsor".

 

[muse]

Guys and Gals, why fall for the propaganda of the Islamist terrorists and their political enablers in the PMl-N and the religious parties - honestly, why?

Do you for a minute imagine they would have any room for persons such as yourself? persons who think, write, formulate their own opinions?? Persons who are curious, enthusiastic and on the side of learning?? Do really think they have anything but servidtude and humiliation to offer persons such as yourself?

Some here have suggested that we have not examined the role of a multitude of secret services active in Pakistan -- however; let me ask you, is that relevant?? We already know who the enemy is, do we not???

Do you really not know that TTP and AQ are enemies of Pakistan?? So identifying CIA, MOssad, and RAW and aliens from planet X -- what's the point other than to confuse you and draw your attention away from the enemy?

Please focus, please do not let yourself become a victim of th enemy's propaganda, do this for the sake of Pakistan and the more than 170 million innocents who have not the opportunities that you have.

 

[maqsad]

CIA, RAW, Mossad and aliens from Planet X are the sponsors. Mullahs, Imams, Qazis and whoever are the tools. If these tools that have been hijacked by foreigners need to be dealt with then one should fight insanity with sanity, not yet another flavor of insanity specially formulated to neutralize the first insanity--doesn't matter if Egypt has already done it. We don't know for sure if that is what solved Egypt's problem because it just sounds dubious that if you switch a certain fraction of people from one form of mental illness to another they will just simmer down.


If anyone wants to preach religion via loudspeaker, television or the internet then they need a permit to do so. The permit would only be available if they passed security checks. Also, a law could be passed saying that in two years time NOBODY would be able to preach to more than 10 people in a gathering unless they passed a strict exam in their choice of language that included philosophy and psychology so that a big dose of sanity is force fed into their dull brains--either that or they are muzzled forever.

If this can be pulled off it will become infinitely easier to control and survey any "freelancer" with the potential to brainwash suididals. Then links outwards to intelligence agencies and other forces can also be identified much more easily.

 

[muse]

Excellent suggestions Maqsad. We must begin controlling the propaganda/brainwashing activities of Islamist terrorists.

And you are absolutely right that once we have eliminated the Islamist terrorists and their enabling networks, we must examine their links, if any, to hostile intelligence services.

 

[IceCold]

You cannot end any kind of militancy until you hit their supply root funding etc. Have anyone of you wondered that in a warfare, the first thing enemy wants to do is to chok out the supply roots so that the economy dies and one cannot sustain war with dead economy. Why do we forget this basic war principle here.
There is no certain ideology going on there, people there just dont have jobs, proper health care, no schools no nothing so who ever hires them in the name of Islam can easily brainwash such idiots into becoming their tools with offering a bit of money and a sureity bond that they will go to heaven.
Taking out the money factor will make sure that they cant hire large amount of uneducated and unemployed people. IF that cuts even half the number of boys who are willing to go for suecide bombings, we indeed have achieved something.
The drug trade going on inside afghanistan right under the nose of US/NATO with Karzai backing it up is one of the largest source of finance for the militancy inside our territory and yet not once did we ever raise the issue. The remaining comes from India. These are the factors we cannot and should not ignore. Cutting the supply root should be the main priority and not the other way round. Once that is achieved there will be an automatic reduction in the hiring of suecide bombers.