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SIALKOT: Ambassador of Tajikistan Sher Ali Jononov on Saturday agreed to enhance bilateral trade with Pakistan and invited members of the Sialkot Chamber of Commerce and Industry to visit his country to organise trade exhibitions.

“We are rich in hydel energy and we are going to export hydel energy to Pakistan to meet growing demand,” he said during a meeting with the SCCI president and its members.

He said that officials of Pakistan, Afghanistan and Tajikistan would meet on March 15 to discuss ways of boosting trade among the three countries.

He expressed keen interest in importing sports and surgical goods from Pakistan. He said his country would supply hydel energy to Pakistan and officials of the two countries would hold a meeting very soon in this regard.

SCCI Acting President Mir Alamgir Meyer, while addressing the gathering, said, “Pakistan could be a gateway to Central Asia for trade and commerce.”

Similarly, he said Central Asian states, including Tajikistan, could be a very strong market for Pakistan with immense opportunities to boost trade.

Tajikistan to export hydel energy to Pakistan – The Express Tribune
 
He expressed keen interest in importing sports and surgical goods from Pakistan. He said his country would supply hydel energy to Pakistan and officials of the two countries would hold a meeting very soon in this regard.

Really? Are you just a Noora-moron or plain stupid. Check actual distance between Tajikistan and Pakistan and then come back to me on how they are gonna supply electricity on such vast distances without massive line losses?

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Really? Are you just a Noora-moron or plain stupid. Check actual distance between Tajikistan and Pakistan and then come back to me on how they are gonna supply electricity on such vast distances without massive line losses?

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:rofl::rofl: Oye kothay damaag

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:rofl::rofl: Oye kothay damaag

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Jahil Aadmi! Itni Duur Faslon Se, Teen Mulk Guzar Kar Bijli Ki Kharedari Kia Tera Baap Noora Karke Dega? :D

An Historic, But Pointless, CASA-1000 Accord
South and Central Asia leaders sign an agreement that appears to have little chance of going anywhere.

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By Casey Michel

On Tuesday, those pushing the interconnectivity of Central and South Asia saw, according to Pakistani officials, an “historic accord.” Representatives from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, and Kyrgyzstan gathered in Istanbul to formalize agreements behind the Central Asia South Asia Electricity Transmission and Trade Project (CASA-1000). Planned to export a total of 1,300 MW of excess summer electricity from Tajikistan and Kyrgyzstan – sending 1,000 MW to Pakistan and 300 MW to Afghanistan – and to be completed by 2018, the agreement, according to Pakistani politician Khurram Dastgir Khan, represented the final touches of a “visionary project.” U.S. Deputy Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs Fatema Sumar said that the signing showed the region “taking real steps to connect their energy grid[.]”

Lofty speech and admirable goals. But given the current energy situation on the ground – and for the foreseeable future – CASA-1000 currently stands as another interregional project stocked with rhetoric but short on reality. Much like the U.S.-backed TAPI pipeline, CASA-1000 appears largely an exercise in pointlessness – a waste of time and capital, and further evidence that Washington’s policy in the region remains stuck on projects that show a disconcerting lack of understanding of the facts on the ground.

But whereas TAPI at least contains a nugget of potential – Turkmenistan, after all, appears to have the requisite gas to reach Pakistani and Indian markets – CASA-1000 cannot even boast sufficient supply to make the project worthwhile. As currently structured, the project would see Tajikistan supply 70 percent of the requisite electricity, with Kyrgyzstan supplying the remaining 30 percent. Again, this notion remains fine on paper – until you realize that Kyrgyzstan is currently facing a 2.5bil kW/h electricity shortfall this winter, and has been forced to importelectricity from Kazakhstan, with Turkmenistan and Russia also in discussions for additional supply. (A recent announcement from Gazprom further illustrated Kyrgyzstan’s energy woes, with southern Kyrgyzstan now likely to be without gas delivery for years to come.) How the CASA-1000 project plans to compensate for the fact that one of its planned exports is currently facing a massive shortfall, US and regional officials would not say.

Nor would they address the fact that CASA-1000 remains one of the few multilateral interregional projects that could very well exacerbate regional tensions. Both Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan have demanded that their major hydropower projects – including Tajikistan’s Rogun Dam, currently planned as the world’s largest dam – remain included in the grid. Tajikistan President Emomali Rakhmon has gone so far as to say that CASA-1000 “is not profitable unless two units of Rogun [hydropower plant] are running.” Uzbekistan, which relies heavily on hydro imports from Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, disagrees – and has pushed back against the entire concept of CASA-1000. As a 2013 letter from Tashkent to the World Bank, which supports CASA-1000, explained, “The implementation of the CASA-1000 Project is integral with the plans of the Tajik and Kyrgyz participants to construct gigantic hydro-engineering facilities – the Rogun HPP and [Kyrgyzstan’s] Kambarata HPP-I, which will catastrophically aggravate the already tense water management situation in the region.”

The letter and rhetoric dovetails off of Uzbekistan President Islam Karimov’s prior comments that water demands in the region “can spark not simply serious confrontation but even wars.” That’s not to say CASA-1000 will provide the final guarantee for some kind of hydro-based hostilities – CASA-1000, again, stands little likelihood of actual enactment for the foreseeable future, no matter what inflated rhetoric American and regional officials use. But yesterday’s signing certainly doesn’t soothe tensions, and only offers Karimov further fodder. CASA-1000 currently serves only to distract from projects that could actually alleviate current and forthcoming tensions. Yesterday’s accord may have been historic, but the project will almost certainly remain grounded for years to come, and beyond.
An Historic, But Pointless, CASA-1000 Accord | The Diplomat
 
LOL you live in Europe but you don't know how you get your resources. Below is what you really call 'Durr Phaslay'
Do you have any idea the difference between transmission of ELECTRICITY and GAS on long distances in your pea-size brain? :D
While gas can be transmitted over longer distances because of natural pressure, same is not the case with electricity as it COSTS a lot to transmit it around the continent. Norway is energy independent and exports most of its electricity to neighboring states. But we do it ONLY to our closest neighboring states that are closely interlinked, ergo we are not exporting electricity to Germany, France, UK or countries further in Europe as economically and technically, its not a feasible solution. This is closely linked Scandinavian Power Network:
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@Norwegian they probably aren't expecting much electricity, not sure how many megawatts or what the exact figures of the plan are but most likely they intend to connect some part of the Northern Pakistani grid to Tajikistan, which is feasible since there's a only a really narrow strip of Afghan land separating the two countries' borders.

Nooray do plenty of stupid things but I wouldn't say this is one of them. It's at least something, and until they can hopefully (but unlikely) do something concrete, such temporary solutions are the only option. It is certainly not the best or most economic (heck, it's the exact opposite of that) but it is an option, and the only one our incompetent politicians can be expected to achieve.

It's definitely very unreliable and prone to a lot of issues, far from the best option. Such co-operation with China would have been more desirable.

@cb4 There's no way you can claim that this option is the best thing since sliced bread, as you seem to be implying. It is in no way comparable to European energy co-operation, never mind the differences between gas and electricity. Not sure what you're even trying to prove with your posts.
 
Norway bhai Pakistan will get electricity at the rate of just Rs 5-6 per unit, and you say CASA1000 project is pointless.
 
Do you have any idea the difference between transmission of ELECTRICITY and GAS on long distances in your pea-size brain? :D
While gas can be transmitted over longer distances because of natural pressure, same is not the case with electricity as it COSTS a lot to transmit it around the continent. Norway is energy independent and exports most of its electricity to neighboring states. But we do it ONLY to our closest neighboring states that are closely interlinked, ergo we are not exporting electricity to Germany, France, UK or countries further in Europe as economically and technically, its not a feasible solution. This is closely linked Scandinavian Power Network:
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Pakistan cannot afford to build other large scale hydel infrastructure.

4000 MW Basha Dam requires $20 Billion of which we have reserved only $1 Billion in the past 15 years and $ 2 Billion from overseas lenders such as World Bank, Islamic Bank, and Asian Development Bank

4000 MW Kala Bagh Dam requires pretty much same amount of dollars and more to it are the political controversies. Sindhi and Pukhtun national parties are adamant. They will do anything to make sure it does not get built.


As part of Short term - Medium term or by the year 2018

The 1,500 MW Quaid e Azam Solar Park in Bahawalpur 2 x 600 MW each Coal Plants in Sahiwal and Faisalabad
3,600 MW LNG Plants in various areas of Punjab, LNG terminal in Gwadar, 100 MW Wind Power in Jhimpir, 2 x 330 MW Coal Plants in Thar, and 969 MW Neelum Jhelum Hydel, etc

Rest is import and beneficial to Khyber Pukhtunkhawa's economy. Amendments like the 18th have been passed making provinces the right to buy and sell goods and services. They have the potential to meet their needs and or sell it to energy starved Punjab

Pakistan is part of two strategic Central Asia - South Asia projects. The CASA 1000 (the electricity line) and the TAPI (the gas line).

Cost to build CASA 1000 is $ 997 Million and Pakistan's side will cost approx. $250 Million to build 700 km line to Peshawar. It should take 1-2 years to complete to get up to 1,300 MW

It will cost Pakistan 8-9 cents per unit to import and would save Pakistan's Oil from Oil based Power Plants which are costing a staggering 15 cents per unit.

Cost to build TAPI is $10 Billion (French, Russian, and Chinese claim they have won contract from Turkmenistan)
It will cost Pakistan roughly $17 per mmbtu to import and is more or less same rate we are getting from Qatar LNG.

It depends how our government handles this. They can either negotiate a cheaper rate from Central Asia or Qatar or they can let this TAPI go ahead to fulfill India's needs where Pakistan would be in position to earn something.


Now going back to Europe, could you please answer how much it has cost them to lay pipelines underwater from Russia ? I think they must be checking their 'blood pressure' instead of 'gas pressure' :)
 
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its actually iran who is exporting Hydel energy to pakistan :D

Iran plans to build two more hydro power plants in Tajikistan - Tehran Times

Iran plans to build two more hydro power plants in Tajikistan as well as the Sangtuda-2 Hydro Power Plant.
The relevant intergovernmental agreement will be signed during a working visit by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to Dushanbe on September 4 to 5, the Iranian Embassy in Tajikistan said in a press release Thursday.
Iran plans to build the Ayni power plant with 150 megawatt capacity on the Zeravshan River and a small hydro power plant with 22 megawatt capacity on the Iskandarya River, a Zeravshan tributary.
"Iran and Tajikistan are currently looking into funding for the Ayni and Iskandarya River power plants," the release said. The cost of the first plant has not been disclosed but the Iskandarya plant will cost around $50 million.
Earlier, China wanted to build the Ayni hydro power plant, but it then changed its mind.
The Sangtuda-2 plant on the Vakhsh River will have capacity of 220 megawatts. The project costs around $220 million and Iran is investing $180 million. After the plant is launched, Iran will obtain all the revenue from electricity sold for 12.5 years, after which the hydro power plant will fully belong to Tajikistan.
Tajikistan has a steady electricity deficit in the winter, estimated at 3 billion to 4 billion kilowatt hours per year. Neighboring Uzbekistan is opposed to the construction of hydro power stations in Tajikistan because it says they will reduce the amount of water available to it for agricultural purposes. Tashkent has also complained to neighboring Kyrgyzstan about the hydro power plant it is building on the Syr Darya.

PressTV-'Iran to build 2nd Tajik power plant'

Sangtuda 2 Hydroelectric Power Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Construction commenced during the Soviet period in the 1980s, but halted in the beginning of the 1990s due to lack of financing. In 1995, Iran expressed interest in helping to finish the project, but an agreement was not signed until 2005. Building work restarted on 20 December 2006.[1][2]

The first unit was inaugurated on 6 September 2011 by presidents Emomalii Rahmon and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

We finish what they started ;)

@cb4 @Norwegian @TankMan

You guys should produce your own electricity !

Iran is one the most professional contractors out there , every single neighboring country is enjoying that too .

stop being an importer for god's sake ! iran can build your plants , all you gotta do is feed some coal or gas or .... too it !
 
Really? Are you just a Noora-moron or plain stupid. Check actual distance between Tajikistan and Pakistan and then come back to me on how they are gonna supply electricity on such vast distances without massive line losses?

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Through Bluetooth :D

A few days before the very same person posted a thread which was something like this Pakistan is going to import 2000 MW electricity from Iran", I guess. We will see when something like this happens.
 
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You guys should produce your own electricity !

Iran is one the most professional contractors out there , every single neighboring country is enjoying that too .

stop being an importer for god's sake ! iran can build your plants , all you gotta do is feed some coal or gas or .... too it !

Our issue is $$s. We don't have tens of billions of dollars to undertake significant projects

Other than that we also have professionals. In fact we have companies building roads, highways, power plants, irrigation and dams for some Middle Eastern countries, including Iran :)

Here is one

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BTW Russia has also built a dam in Tajikistan and according to that CASA 1000 map above we are probably going to get it from there.

Sangtuda 1 Hydroelectric Power Plant - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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