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Swat flogging video Fake or Not fake ? Why is MQM still after it.

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It's not that I love bugging people to read my writing by constantly posting in the national political views section. It's not something that I have become addicted do. It's just that things are happening which piss me off so bad and are so wrong that I feel I MUST put my thought across.
There are alot of perspectives and ideologies that our minds does not always take into consideration. That is why I type. I do not think of myself as a know it all. I just think people will get influenced by the bullshit that is dished out on media; it always happens. I should know because I have been a victim of it too. And I genuinely believe that by expressing your views one can make a difference.
I believe that all the media sensationalism is already turning minds into directions which lead to a dead-end or end at a cliff. What happened in Swat was tragic indeed, but what exactly happened that brought the whole nation into a rage? I will talk about everything without any emotional attachment, because frankly speaking ... this incident must be looked at objectively in comparison with alot of other things.

A girl was flogged. 34 times in public. I had expressed my sentiments that what happened was wrong, it was terrible, but opinions must not be radicalised. That was important to any possible development on any issue. I say this because if you look at the incident objectively, worse things have happened in that area. Far worse things.
So ever wonder why a video appears AFTER the peace talks, when it was actually shot in January? The explanation given is that the video was 'picked' up on the internet. Intelligence agencies donot just PICK up videos. Their systems are highly efficient, with specifically designed softwares to scourge and extract all relevant material from the internet. You just dont STUMBLE across a video.

Many members have commented on the cruelty and lack of understanding of Islam of the people there. I am glad I did not write a hate article against Taliban because somewhere in my mind, there were some questions that were unanswered and I've found very satisfying answers to them recently. This is why I said I had been a victim of media sensationalism too.
That video, was shown without a degree of confirmation that whether the video was fake or was it not fake. People pounced on that video violently, as if they were looking for a chance to exploit this issue. I did not suggest any radical move to counter that problem as people who were doing that on the forum and MQM folk of Karachi who at present are looking nothing more than idiots who are desperate to grab attention whenever they could.
It disappointed me to see their reaction, it was like of a child whose Eid had come early. They proved that they are one of the most opportunist parties in Pakistan; who actually thrive on calamities of the nation. Media reports insist the video was shot in January, but the BHAI insists that NO! IT IS AFTER THE PEACE DEAL! How ruthless can one get to exercise their words over the general public? How ironic that HE of all people has the nerve to call Talibans PREDATORS. And how ironic that he suggests an un-constitutional punishment to the Talibans for an un-constitutional act commited by them. Suggesting they be hanged and their bodies be displayed dead publicly for flogging a girl is outrageous and only worthy of a man who has always thrived on violence and playing with hearts n emotions of his loving public.

I am sick of the money-making business our media is running. Seen objectively, the flogging is nothing compared to the **** that happens in our country. If flogging it is, then the first thing parties need to stage nation wide protests is against Police jails. For every authority is aware what happens with women in police cells :)
I have been reading articles and one I read of Oria Maqbool convinced me and answered alot of my un-answered questions that our media did not bother to raise. He speaks with a 19 year experience in Film making and editing and 10 years experience in Criminal Departments. He saw that video along with all his film editing software and took apart alot of mistakes and doubts in the video. If anyone needs proof, I will be happy to provide a link. He wrote in Express News, that with a camera that has such a poor blurry result, the voices are unbelievablly clear; as if someone is speaking on a mic. He also raises a valid question that I was thinking too - 34 lashes. A MAN would struggle to walk after being lashed 10 times, the whip more or less rips into your skin and pulls it off. Yet that SEVENTEEN yr girl received 34 lashes; she's screaming like she is about to die and yet she gets up and walks off just like a film scene has been shot where there is an emotional scene and the heroine is crying and as the shot is called off, she starts to relax and laugh. He says he talked to the people who live there, and the Commissioner of Malakand Syed Muhammad Javed swears on ALLAH that this event did not happen in Swat. The strongest reason he gives is that the language is not what the people of Swat speak. The video has been shot with such expertise, that it only shows those 4 people involved in the action and even there faces are OUT OF FOCUS, and no other face is shown ... one can only see the feet and shins at the max, of the crowd around this event. There is a high probability of the video being fake. Alot of people are already convinced that is true.

If any one of you wants to feel ashamed, feel ashamed of your media that has sold their souls to the devil. Hold a grudge against them for they are the ones that are in the race of showing who broke the news first ! I am not denying that things like this not happen. They might happen in reality. But think about it objectively. Did it deserve the coverage it got? Did it deserve the opportunist methods of Muttehda and the crap galore that the media propagated? Are there not worse things happening in the country that no one gives a damn about reporting? How about the son of an ex-minister with the White Corolla case ? How about the women abuse in jails ? How about the thousands of people that have been killed by our security forces and the man-less monsters that hover over OUR territories ? How come none of the media and Political parties staged a country-wide protest against THOSE problems?

For once, ignore your personal aims and see what the country is going through. It's easy for us, people living in safe cities apparently to condemn this bullshit. However, it wont be long before ALLEGEDLY, main Pakistani cities will be proclaimed Talibanised as well and there will be drones over major cities too. Is THAT what you're waiting for?

I have to give accreditation to a very good friend for this article.
 
I thanked you for your sincere effort but it doesn`t mean that I agree 100% :)
 
Well then I would like to question on what parts do you disagree.

This part: "MQM folk of Karachi who at present are looking nothing more than idiots who are desperate to grab attention whenever they could."

Pls don't link all Karachites with MQM. I am from Karachi and like many people I don't support MQM.

People claim that MQM forces people to vote, it may be tru but fact is that majority of Karachites support MQM.

Reasons:

1. Police actions against MQM in the tenures of BB and NS. When police was not able to find wanted people then they started to pick up ordinary kids. It was the worst time in Karachi and MQM emerged as a victim. There was enough evidence in the case of Hakim Saeed murder but again our police screwed up and the shooter (key witness) died in custody!

2. Poor people who were educated but jobless benefitted the most as some found jobs and some found other ways of making money. In either case MQM supported by hook or by crook.

3. Lack of oponents in Karachi! What is stopping IK & NS from coming to Karachi? IK is very popular (not only famous) in Karachi because of the hospital and for speaking against MQM etc BUT there is no presence.

4. Infrastructure improvements in Karachi. This new mayor, Mustufa Kamal is a very hard working man. He has changed Karachi in his tenure and MQM supporters who were going away, have actually come back and support has swelled. My friend (NS supporter) came back a couple of weeks ago and he was full of praises for the improvement in the infrastructure.

buddy, these things matter, people see work getting done and that makes a crap load of difference. I respect SS because I know he can get things done. Why is this a criteria for me? because infrastructure needs to be improved all over Pakistan and public works create jobs in economy.
 
By saying MQM folk I actually meant the Rabta commitee and the thousands of protestors not the whole of the Karachiites my apologies for the previous mistake.
 
If anybody who can counter MQM's hegemony over Karachi is ANP, so they are just making the most of it so that they can malign ANP to their utmost pleasure.


Why people support MQM, well SSGPA have put it all very well, i only want to add that they know where to strike, they help the needy and the poor and the abused, so they are popular and strong.

You know the do the dirty up there and keep the lower clean, stuff!

P.S. i m fan of neither the parties.
 
ANP can counter MQM in karachi??
lol.........
I cant stop my self!!
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

U are a good joker!!
I really enjoyed!! U made my day!!
Thanks!!
 
Indeed it can you put it yourself that their are only 48% Mohajirs and I feel the Pakhtoon popuous prefer to vote ANP if they are allowed to vote as they show on Geo showed how many Pakhtoon were not allowed to vote. The show was named something like 'anonymous' in Urdu
 
Indeed it can you put it yourself that their are only 48% Mohajirs and I feel the Pakhtoon popuous prefer to vote ANP if they are allowed to vote as they show on Geo showed how many Pakhtoon were not allowed to vote. The show was named something like 'anonymous' in Urdu

To my understanding, here is the power structure:

Vote Bank
1. MQM
2. PPPP or JI
3. ANP

Street Power
1. MQM
2. ANP
3. PPPP

In street power MQM can be countered by ANP up to a certain extent but not on a consistent basis. There is not a single NA constituency which belongs to ANP due to their vote bank.

If ANP, JI and PPPP front one candidate then there is a fair possibility of 2 to 3 NA seats.

I would put ethnic distribution in Karachi as follows:

Urdu speaking Muhajir = approx. 60% (includes Behari and Haiderabadi popul)
Punjabi & Pushtoon = approx. 10%
Sindhi = approx. 15%
Memon & Gujrati = approx 10%
(they are neither Muhajir nor Urdu speaking but support MQM and have lived in Karachi since pre-partition - Farooq Sattar is a Memon)
Others = 5% (Baloch, Makrani, Parsi and others)

Surprised about Punjabi and Pushtoon popul. Don't be as 10% is around 1.5 million.

Pushtoons are mostly singles, working in Karachi and Punjabis are mostly settled in Karachi with families.

Out of the approx. 10%, Punjabis should have majority but Pushtoons are more visible because of the nature of their work.

Where does IK fit in this equation? He is popular amongst all but there is no political standing. So people on one hand curse AH but in the end give vote to the same party.
 
Well i agree and am fairly confident that the MQM has a strong vote bank and the only party to break it is the ANP they are the ones that can still pose as some sort of competition though I agree they will have to field joint candidates with the PPP and all other smaller parties.
 
Brother come pakistan and live in karachi, u will notice what is MQM and whar is ANP!!

Karachiites dont try to enter in the areas of ANP, if u entered there area then they snatch all of your money and etc!!

Do u know ANP supporters lives near sohrab goth, and if u are going to hyderabad then u will have to pass from sohrab goth, and people doesnt want to pass from sohrab goth, bcoz of fear of ANP, thats why govt has built five alternates, so u can reach hyderabad easily, and govt is building alternates on the places where ANP lives, have u ever heard abt banaras flyover?? ANd govt has also built road after the cutting of mountain from center, so the people can pass the area with out the fear of ANP!!
 
In karachi only pashtuns votes ANP, and not a single muhajir, punjabi, balochi, sindhi etc votes ANP!!
 
ANP can counter MQM in karachi??
lol.........
I cant stop my self!!
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

U are a good joker!!
I really enjoyed!! U made my day!!
Thanks!!

Hey kiddo, stop copy pasting and listen!

Try to get some air and try to find what actual happens in Karachi...that may help you!
 

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