Spineless leaders surrender to terrorists.....

[Pksecurity]

It seems that Pakistani Taliban (TTP) have achieved the desired recognition. The frightened political “leaders” of Pakistan, devoid of spine, had hastily seized the offer of dialogue from Pakistani Taliban and issued the five-point declaration of an All Parties Conference (APC) called by the Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam – Fazl (JUI-F) for steps to restore peace in Pakistan’s restive tribal areas. The leader of this party is known as the Father of TTP. The Taliban who have killed nearly 50,000 Pakistani citizens have welcomed the declaration. Mainstream political and religious parties and civil society groups agreed at the moot on Thursday to negotiate peace with militant elements through a broadened tribal jirga earlier formed by JUI-F.
“The political parties have sent a positive message by excluding the word terrorism from the joint declaration. The Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) shura (council) gives it high regards,” Ehsanullah Ehsan, spokesmen for the banned militant outfit, told Dawn.com on Friday via telephone from an undisclosed location. The spokesman, however, said that Pakistani Taliban was still waiting for a “positive response” from the Pakistani military on the offer of peace talks with the militants.
As against Afghan Taliban who are fighting the NATO forces to wrest back their lost territory, the Pakistani Taliban have been fighting Pakistani state. They killed 45,000 innocent civilians and 5,000 security personnel through IEDs and suicide bombing. Their major objective was to frighten the state and inflict injuries to the defense apparatus through killing soldiers and destroying precious defense equipment so critical to defending the country from archrival, India. It is widely believed that TTP is a proxy of India fighting inside Pakistan to destabilize the country. With the prospects of Afghan Taliban getting back the recognition in the wake of NATO troops withdrawal from Afghanistan, and also having lost the initial thrust to attack Pakistan after being hounded by the military, TTP was keen to negotiate, apparently from the position of weakness.
The frightened political leaders, whose priority is political interest, have finally surrendered to TTP. It is, however, not clear if the military establishment will also lay down its arms under pressure from politicians. The analysts believe that after this gesture from politicians, the peace will still remain a far cry and TTP will ask for their pound of flesh.

ALLVOICES: Pakistani Taliban snatch desired recognition from frightened leaders…

 

[Luftwaffe]

@Pksecurity,
Do you have anymore money left to Fight, Do you have anymore Will left to Fight after almost a decade, Did you know US-NATO will not give you a dime after they leave Afghanistan so where will the money to fight TTP/gangs come from. And what do know US-NATO-Arabs are in Talks with Taliban/AQ.

Time for a full scale Ops have past it was the initial couple of years to strike them hard and for that you should have made some noise to international community to US-NATO they would have given you enough money to Fight.

 

[Fahad Khan 2]

They want to recover in a battle in Meransha they lost too may man.....

 

[JanjaWeed]

There is an old saying... once bitten, twice shy. Pakistani politicians seems averse to this. They had a bitter experience in the past when they tried to make peace with these kinds. They should have learned their lessons from the adventure they embarked upon with Mullah Fazlullah's faction in FATA in the past.

 

[acid rain]

wrong thing to do, many states do not negotiate or discuss with terrorists, you are just giving them legitamacy by engaging them in dialogue.

Your stand should be that they give up arms, give up their idealogy and then talk.

 

[RazorMC]

wrong thing to do, many states do not negotiate or discuss with terrorists, you are just giving them legitamacy by engaging them in dialogue.

Your stand should be that they give up arms, give up their idealogy and then talk.

So where do US negotiations with the Taliban fit in ??

 

[Wright]

So where do US negotiations with the Taliban fit in ??

apples and oranges here: the taliban are in afghanistan, not the US. The ttp are in Pakistan.

 

[BATMAN]

From now on terrorists attacks will be accepted by LEJ.

Welcome to the hand over of terrorism.. from one name to the other!

 

[somebozo]

This has ineffect made Pk GOV biggest traitor to Pakistani nation. NExt time there is a bomb blast by TTP, the president should be arrested and tried in a public court!

 

[KS]

This has ineffect made Pk GOV biggest traitor to Pakistani nation. NExt time there is a bomb blast by TTP, the president should be arrested and tried in a public court!

If you believe that it was the GoP who made the ultimate decision of talking to the rebels, then what can I say ? Army made the decision by putting the GoP name in it as usual.

 

[BATMAN]

There had been girls school blown up.. even today!

If you believe that it was the GoP who made the ultimate decision of talking to the rebels, then what can I say ? Army made the decision by putting the GoP name in it as usual.

What can you expect from Indian puppet regime?

 

[illusion8]

There had been girls school blown up.. even today!



What can you expect from Indian puppet regime?

You'll need to give them what they ask for in return for them to stop attacks on the security forces - and we very well know what the TTP wants to achieve in Pakistan.

 

[Pandora]

People have gone numb from these pointless deaths every single day. If there is even shred of hope then We should pursue these negotiations.

 

[TalibanSwatter]

Excise this Cancer
Dawn

RECENT events have been a reminder of what journalist Saleem Shahzad reported on May 27, 2011, even though he feared what was lurking round the corner for him.

Writing for ‘Asia Times Online’, a Hong Kong-based news website, five days after militants attacked PNS Mehran on Karachi’s Sharea Faisal, he linked the assault to failed talks “between the navy and Al Qaeda over the release of naval officials arrested on suspicion of Al Qaeda links”.

The PNS Mehran incident was one of the most vicious attacks on any defence establishment and at least 10 people were killed and aerial surveillance and anti-submarine assets worth millions of dollars destroyed.

In his report, Shahzad suggested that three attacks on Pakistan Navy buses in Karachi just a month earlier which saw nine deaths were also shots across the bow of the naval leadership over the detained lower rank naval personnel who, he said, numbered 10.

He quoted an unnamed senior naval officer as having told him that after electronic intercepts and surveillance these people had been taken into custody. After being held in one place, they had to be moved to safer sites as threats deemed credible had been received from Al Qaeda.

Naval officers speaking anonymously told Saleem Shahzad that because of the location-specific threats, they had gathered that the terror group was in all probability receiving inside information on where the suspects were being held.

At this, the report said: “A senior-level naval conference was called at which an intelligence official insisted that the matter be handled with great care otherwise the consequences could be disastrous. Everybody present agreed, and it was decided to open a line of communication with Al Qaeda.

“Abdul Samad Mansoori, a former student union activist … who originally hailed from Karachi but now lives in the North Waziristan tribal area was approached and talks begun. Al Qaeda demanded the immediate release of the officials without further interrogation. This was rejected.

“The detainees were allowed to speak to their families and were well treated, but officials were desperate to interrogate them fully to get an idea of the strength of Al Qaeda’s penetration. The militants were told that once interrogation was completed, the men would be discharged from the service and freed.”

According to the report, Al Qaeda didn’t find these terms acceptable and responded by launching lethal attacks on the navy buses in April of that year.

Two days after his report appeared, Shahzad was due to appear in a TV interview in Islamabad for which he left home but never arrived at his destination. His car, with him at the wheel, had mysteriously disappeared from a leafy Islamabad residential area.

The following day his body, bearing signs of a fatal beating, was fished out of a canal some 130 kilometres from the capital. His car was also found nearby. It wasn’t clear if a “punishment beating” had gone horribly wrong or the kidnappers wanted to kill him. On the face of it, it appeared a case of the messenger being shot.

What should have been police investigative work, with painstaking collection of evidence and forensic analysis, was entrusted to a commission of inquiry headed by a Supreme Court judge, and its report remained predictably inconclusive about who killed the journalist.

Ironically, just a few weeks earlier some journalists, including Saleem Shahzad, and other experts had gathered at London’s King’s College Department of War Studies for a regional security conference.

After one session Saleem had taken me aside to share his concerns about his safety. He didn’t specifically mention whom he feared but did say things were getting to a point where he would be forced to consider moving abroad. He returned to Islamabad a few days later.

Two recent incidents in Karachi have involved naval officers (who belonged to the Shia community) while in their cars. The first incident was described by the police initially as a bombing but the navy later said it was a CNG tank explosion in the officer’s car.

The second incident, where the officer received multiple gunshot wounds not far from where he used to park his car in a secure naval facility, suggested some information about the exact timing of his presence. Admittedly this is speculation and one can’t be sure.

But even earlier attacks on defence establishments have indicated that the attackers possibly had detailed inside information. It may be true that all it takes is one bad apple to breach security when the vast majority is dedicated to its duty. But it is alarming nonetheless.

If the army itself flies Malik Ishaq, the Sipah-i-Sahaba militant leader, from prison in Lahore to the GHQ to help negotiate with the Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan attackers in 2009, the nexus between these groups becomes very clear. They are ideological and perhaps even operational allies.

In the last month of the current parliament’s life two main political parties in Pakhtunkhwa have each organised an all-parties conference to try and reach the ever-elusive consensus on how best to deal with the TTP now ensconced mostly in North Waziristan.

The army chief has predicated any operation against the terror machine on a national consensus which now seems more remote than ever since all political parties have an eye on the election. They don’t want to take a tough stance for different reasons.

Some find ideological affinity with the religious fighters who are battling the US in their view (even when all they are doing in reality is attacking Pakistan) or perhaps they don’t want to take the lead and be hamstrung in electioneering because of the enhanced threat of reprisals.

However, the authorities’ lack of will to clamp down on rampaging groups in settled areas is shocking. Murderous attacks have largely targeted one Muslim sect in Quetta, Karachi, Lahore or Peshawar.

We can blame the “foreign sponsors” and the “Great Game” all we want but this rampant cancer lies within. It needs to be excised now if we are to harbour any hope of survival.

 

[RazorMC]

apples and oranges here: the taliban are in afghanistan, not the US. The ttp are in Pakistan.

Did you even bother checking the post that I was responding to ??

Here it is since you obviously missed it:

wrong thing to do, many states do not negotiate or discuss with terrorists, ...