Self-driving Uber Volvo shown running red light in San Francisco

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http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2016/12/self-driving_uber_shown_runnin.html

On its first day of service in San Francisco, one of Uber's self-driving cars was shown running a red light in a video captured by the dashboard of a local taxi service.

Shown cruising through the red light -- after about three seconds of it being red -- is one of Uber's self-driving Volvo XC90s.

The San Francisco Examiner first found the video, and reports that Uber didn't let the city's traffic division know it was unleashing self-driving cars on the road.

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I was unaware the cars have been released in the wild," San Francisco Traffic Sgt. Will Murray told the Examiner. "Isn't that like the headless horsemen?"

The Examiner also reports that California's Department of Motor Vehicle has ordered Uber to halt its self-driving service until obtaining permits.

Uber announced it was launching the program in a Wednesday blog post, writing that the company moved forward without a permit because they don't believe they need one to test.

"First, we are not planning to operate any differently than in Pittsburgh, where our pilot has been running successfully for several months," Uber writes. "Second, the rules apply to cars that can drive without someone controlling or monitoring them. For us, it's still early days and our cars are not yet ready to drive without a person monitoring them."

This news comes on the heels of Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder signing a bill allowing the testing of autonomous vehicles on Michigan roadways.

Snyder said that with Michigan being the automotive capital of the world, this allows the state to "stay at the forefront in automotive technological advances that will make driving safer and more efficient in the future."

The company launched self-driving cars onto the streets of Pittsburgh in September, which represented the first time such a service has been launched in the U.S. Uber has said in the past that it has "safety drivers" in the front seat of each self-driving cars due to instances that could require human intervention.

Uber has not yet commented on the video showing its vehicle cruising through a stop light.

 

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The Examiner also reports that California's Department of Motor Vehicle has ordered Uber to halt its self-driving service until obtaining permits.

Good, these "self-driving" cars scare me.

 

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Good, these "self-driving" cars scare me.

http://ktla.com/2016/11/28/driver-i...ously-alarmed-students-with-reckless-driving/

 

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Good, these "self-driving" cars scare me.

The problem is Uber rushing tech out the door before adequate testing. They are scared of Tesla having their own self driving service and putting them out of business.

Next thing you know some pedestrian gets killed and Uber will get so much bad publicity they will be dead.

 

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i didn't know san fran had a red light too , what kind of red light are we talking about ?

 

[LA se Karachi]

The problem is Uber rushing tech out the door before adequate testing. They are scared of Tesla having their own self driving service and putting them out of business.

Next thing you know some pedestrian gets killed and Uber will get so much bad publicity they will be dead.

True. Google is doing something similar. I just don't trust the idea of self-driving cars, and I'm not sure that I ever will.

 

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i didn't know san fran had a red light too , what kind of red light are we talking about ?

Sorry those days are pretty much over
https://defence.pk/threads/top-of-t...predominantly-80s.309194/page-51#post-8345175

 

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Amazon seller is killing Jobs

a) Getting rid of delivery jobs (Drones)
b) Getting rid of mall check out cashiers (tech being tested)
c) Automating many jobs (Tech)

Won't be buying from Amazon bycotting it due to anti Human activites , its a corporation promoting
only AI and artificial intellegence agenda

 

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Uber to switch driverless car testing from California to Arizona

HOWARD FISCHER Capitol Media Services

PHOENIX — Spurned by California over safety concerns, Uber is moving the testing of its driverless cars to Arizona.

But Gov. Doug Ducey said Thursday that will not endanger Arizona motorists and pedestrians. In fact, he contends it actually could make the state's roads safer — eventually.

"There's all kinds of accidents and avoidable deaths due to human error,'' he said. "Uber hopes to solve much of that.''

The move comes after the California Department of Motor Vehicles told Uber it needs a permit to operate its self-driving cars in San Francisco. Anthony Levandowski who runs the company's driverless car program said those rules should not apply to Uber's test cars because they actually have someone behind the wheels.

By contrast, there are no laws in Arizona to prohibit manufacturers from testing driverless cars or even selling them to consumers. And nothing keeps anyone from buying one and taking it out on the road.

In fact, the head of the state Department of Transportation acknowledged there are no specific rules in place yet about how they have to be operated and how much actual control — if any — a human needs to have.

Ducey said ADOT has a task force which is working on all that. But he said that, even in the absence of any rules here, it's good for Arizona to allow such testing.

"Arizona's going to be a place that's open to this type of innovation,'' the governor said.

"We want to make sure our citizens are safe,'' he continued. "But we want to also allow those companies to test. And that's what they're doing here.''

Ducey got the opportunity to court Uber after negotiations between the company and California officials broke down. It ended with California revoking the registration of Uber's 16 self-driving cars because they were not properly licensed as test vehicles.

California officials did agree to let Uber seek the proper permits. But Levandowski refused to concede that the state was correct in its interpretation of the law.

He said California law expressly says that the requirements for special testing permits for self-driving cars do not apply to vehicles with collision-avoidance and similar technologies.

More to the point, Levandowski said California also exempts cars that cannot be driven "without the active control or monitoring of a human operator.'' And the Uber vehicles do have someone behind the wheel.

Ducey said that is an important point.

"Even in the driverless cars right now there are drivers inside the car,'' he said. "That's where they are in the testing.''

The governor said he got to ride briefly in two of these vehicles.

"It surprised me how smooth it was and how safe it felt,'' Ducey said.

"But there was somebody at the wheel,'' he explained. "And Arizonans can rest assured at this stage of the testing there's still a human being while the testing's going on.''

Nor was Ducey persuaded by the fact that California officials considered the technology not quite ready for prime time beyond the testing mode. Instead, he sees the issue from the perspective of economic development.

"We're agreeing to being business friendly and saying that innovation and entrepreneurship and the solving of problem happens in real-world situations,'' the governor said.

"I think these folks have taken a lot of precautions,'' he said. "We're going to work with them.''

Ducey acknowledged that the task force he formed more than a year ago has yet to complete its work and come up with rules of the road for self-driving cars. But he said that shouldn't stop what Uber and others are trying to do.

"We're not looking to chase these companies out of the state,'' Ducey said.

"We think it's going to provide jobs for Arizonans,'' he said. "And ultimately we think our streets are going to be much safer for our citizens and for our teenagers who are driving.''

At a hearing earlier this year, ADOT Director John Halikowski agreed with the governor that driverless technology can be safer.

He said virtually all of the nearly 35,000 fatal accidents in the country last year were found due to driver error. And he said there are other benefits, ranging from less need for downtown parking spaces to ensuring that the elderly and handicapped can get around for themselves.

But he conceded there are other questions yet to be answered.

One is whether someone needs a driver's license to operate an autonomous vehicle. Closely related to that is whether there has to be an adult in a car if a parent sends the kids off to school in a self-driving car.

There are technology questions, like the possibility of the software that operates the vehicle being hacked.

The Department of Public Safety has its own set of issues. Maj. William Beck said one is who is actually controlling the vehicle.

Put in simpler terms, if an autonomous vehicle is clocked at 67 miles per hour in a 55 mph zone, who gets the ticket: the person behind the wheel or the company that manufactured the software telling the vehicle to go that fast?

And Sen. Bob Worsley, R-Mesa, who chairs the Senate Transportation Committee said there also are moral questions of how the computer that operates the car is programmed and whether, if a collision is unavoidable, does that programming protect the occupants at all costs even if others are put in danger.


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