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Thinking About Giving up Your U.S. Citizenship? Think Twice
By Alan Olsen, CPA, MBA (tax)
Managing Partner
Greenstein Rogoff Olsen & Co. LLP

While not a lot of people ever entertain the thought of giving up their U.S. citizenship, there are more people every year that are making that choice. Among them are several wealthier people whose main reason for renouncing is to escape the country’s overloaded tax system; including extremely high tax rates for the wealthy and those who earn are big global earners.
U.S. Doesn’t Want You to Leave
However, it would seem that maybe the United States isn’t too keen on the idea of people giving up their citizenship. In fact, it appears that the government has taken notice of the increasing number of people choosing to defect, and it has decided to do something about it. The State Department has recently raised the fee for U.S. citizens who want to renounce their citizenship from a mere $450 to $2,350. Compared to other countries, the U.S.’s fee is more than 25 times higher than the average level in other countries considered high-income.
Can You Come Back?
According to the State Department, the increase is due to all the extra work that is incurred when someone chooses to renounce his or her citizenship. In another twist, if you decide to leave, you might have a hard time getting back in, even just to visit. Bitcoin entrepreneur Roger Ver renounced his citizenship early in 2014, but when he tried to obtain a visa to visit the U.S. later in the year the U.S. embassy denied his request saying that he had not established sufficient ties to his new home in the Caribbean that would compel him to return after visiting the U.S. While his case might be exceptional, it does cause one to think twice about leaving.
Exit Tax Looms
There is also the issue of paying an exit tax. First, in order to leave the country for good, you have to prove that you have been tax compliant in the United States for the last 5 years. Also, if you happen to be wealthy then you have to pay an exit tax. So how is being wealthy determined? If you have a net worth of more than $2 million or your average yearly net income tax (not income) for the previous five years was $157,000 or more for 2014, then you will be subject to the exit tax.
Record Numbers Are Leaving
Despite the country’s efforts to dissuade American people from choosing to give up their citizenship, it appears that more and more people are choosing to take this route. As the IRS has made a heavier push on global tax reporting, including strongly pushing the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA), the list of those renouncing continues to climb. Plus, there are many who believe that not everyone who renounces even makes the list. In 2013 alone, the number of people who did make the official list jumped by 221 percent from 2012, which was a new record at the time.
Consider Your Options and Be Prepared
Giving up your citizenship is a big decision, and one that shouldn’t be made lightly. If you are considering renouncing your citizenship and taxes are a big part of the reason why, then you might want to contact the experts at GROCO first. There may be some ways we can help you reduce your tax bill and keep your citizenship. On the other hand, if you have decided to leave, we might also be able to help you prepare your finances and taxes, as you get ready for your departure. In any case, please contact us if you need help at 1-877-CPA-2006 or by clicking here.


Thinking About Giving up Your U.S. Citizenship? Think Twice
 
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Only a tiny minority of those renouncing are 'rich'. Most are middle to upper middle class people who are sick of the horrific paperwork they have to file annually and of being double taxed. The US is one of only two countries in the world today that tax not only by territory but by citizenship as well. Empires aren't cheap to run you know. They share this great distinction with the prestigious country of Eritrea, only Eritrea doesn't have the ability to force other countries to report intimate financial details of their tax slaves in their countries with laws like FATCA. The IRS mandates that all Americans living abroad must report their income. Foreign income over $95000 a year is subject to tax even if you've already paid taxes in the country you reside in. Doesn't matter if you don't live in the US, don't use the roads, services, courts etc. If you are a citizen, you a slave so you pay up.

Renouncing is a very difficult decision to make, so my hat goes off to them. The rich can easily dodge the IRS with fancy accounting and can also get second passports making it hard for the IRS to find out about their activities, unless they are famous. Instead of abolishing this immoral practise, the government has seen it fit to make it harder for a citizen to renounce and furthermore, slap on more punitive 'exit' taxes. This is just one of the many signs of a crumbling empire.
 
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The real US median household income is lower than what i was in 1996:

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Of course they prefer better and more prosperous countries like China.
 
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Not just prosperous, but with more freedoms too. :D

Or Singapore, for example, the destination of choice for many rich Americans who want to give up their citizenship.

I mean, if your tax bill could go from 100 million USD to zero, i am sure you would mull other options as well. This is globalized world. But then again, billionaires don't exactly sit on PDF.

:P
 
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Or Singapore, for example, the destination of choice for many rich Americans who want to give up their citizenship.

I mean, if your tax bill could go from 100 million USD to zero, i am sure you would mull other options as well. This is globalized world. But then again, billionaires don't exactly sit on PDF.

:P

Of course. Saving on taxes is important, nevermind that one could get jailed or worse for chewing gum in Singapore. It is all pros and cons, isn't it?
 
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Of course. Saving on taxes is important, nevermind that one could get jailed or worse for chewing gum in Singapore. It is all pros and cons, isn't it?

Chewing on gum might be hard in Singapore, but there ain't no ghettos.
 
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If you'd like to know where US ex-pats end up, here's a bit of info:

Expat Insider 2014: USA Report | InterNations.org

Meanwhile:

Yearbook of Immigration Statistics: 2013 Lawful Permanent Residents | Homeland Security

Some 1 million people move to the US every year.

lol......what a state dpt. shill post. 50 cent brand.

When i open that page, all it says is how USA is great and nowhere does it answer my question of where do all ex US citizens go.

Let's not go into the second link, which as easily predictable as it was, that someone will post it, doesn't even touch on the subject that well-off, medium-to high income people are leaving and broke Pablo's and Ali's are coming.

6.5 million non-military US citizens live abroad:

Counting the Uncountable: Overseas Americans | migrationpolicy.org

As for where they go - take your pick:

Emigration from the United States

Meanwhile:

Some 1 million people move to the US every year.

Yearbook of Immigration Statistics: 2013 Lawful Permanent Residents | Homeland Security

Ah so, after you've changed the post 2/3rd's, we are getting closer. Looks like they are going back home if wiki link is to be believed. Fine by me.
 
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Some random wordpress blogs? Really?

Let's compare Baltimore with Singapore....shall we.....(since Singapore is a city state...)

Oh we already agree Baltimore and the rest of USA is a shithole not worth living. People are leaving in droves. Those that do not leave are dying. Singapore is the place, or China, or Russia. BTW, every place has slums, even Singapore, and not just from blogs.
 
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