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Putin, Xi moot military technology cooperation
The annual APEC summit has been gaining stature as a forum of political consultations and this year’s at Bali is particularly interesting against the backdrop of the slowdown in China’s growth, fallouts from the US government shutdown, regional conflicts, maritime disputes, Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement negotiations, US’ rebalancing strategy and so on.
One ‘bilateral’ that stood out was Russian President Vladimir Putin’s meeting with his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping. The frequency of their meetings is increasing. Xi picked Russia for his first official tour abroad after becoming China’s president. Last month Xi and Putin participated in two events together — G20 in St. Petersburg and the SCO summit in Bishkek.
The transcript of the opening statements at the meeting in Bali makes careful reading. Putin noted that the Russian-Chinese coordination on international issues is “paying off.” This is a highly nuanced remark in terms of what Putin singled out as the “Syrian issues”.
Indeed, he implied the Russian-Chinese coordination at the UN Security Council, which ultimately made the western powers — US, UK and France — bend on the Syrian question.
Xi agreed with Putin and also mentioned Syria, but, interestingly enough, he bracketed it with the North Korea problem, where Xi said China and Russia have “similar or identical positions.” Indeed, Beijing counts on Moscow’s reciprocal support at the UN Security Council over the North Korean problem.
Xi pointedly expressed interest in Russia playing a “significant role” in the Asia-Pacific and in “intensifying” the Chinese Russian cooperation. He conveyed China’s acceptance of the Russian proposal to jointly celebrate the 70th anniversary of victory in World War II, which in Beijing’s estimation holds resonance for the perceived militarism in the Japan’s outlook. Russia and China have common concerns over the deployment of the US’ missile defence system in Japan.
Both Putin and Xi highlighted the cooperation in “some very sensitive areas” (Putin) such as military technology. From the Indian perspective, this is of particular interest.
But then, as they say, what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. It seems a matter of time before the burgeoning US-Indian partnership impacts on the Russian-Chinese cooperation in military technology, where Moscow has traditionally held back.
Of course, China stands to gain immensely if it gains access to Russia’s military technology. However, in the light of the India-US Joint Declaration on Defence Cooperation on 28th September 2013 issued in Washington during the visit by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, how could India possibly have heartburn?
The US-Indian declaration underscores, “The United States and India share common security interests and place each other at the same level as their closest partners.” This is way beyond what either Putin or Xi said at their meeting in Bali regarding Russian-Chinese coordination 
India is getting wedged in US-Russian rivalry ...

This is going to be a great strategic problem for India in near future ...

While prospect of US friendship to counteract China is alluring so is fear of losing Russia to China damning ...

India can't possibly maintain parity between US and Russia for long time ...

How India will accommodate this two arch rivals is a million dollar question ???

While India continues to get closer to US it can't complain about convergence of Sino-Russian interests !

and it is going to take more than diplomacy to negotiate this delicate act !!!
 
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Putin, Xi moot military technology cooperation - Indian Punchline


Putin, Xi moot military technology cooperation
The annual APEC summit has been gaining stature as a forum of political consultations and this year’s at Bali is particularly interesting against the backdrop of the slowdown in China’s growth, fallouts from the US government shutdown, regional conflicts, maritime disputes, Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement negotiations, US’ rebalancing strategy and so on.
One ‘bilateral’ that stood out was Russian President Vladimir Putin’s meeting with his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping. The frequency of their meetings is increasing. Xi picked Russia for his first official tour abroad after becoming China’s president. Last month Xi and Putin participated in two events together — G20 in St. Petersburg and the SCO summit in Bishkek.
The transcript of the opening statements at the meeting in Bali makes careful reading. Putin noted that the Russian-Chinese coordination on international issues is “paying off.” This is a highly nuanced remark in terms of what Putin singled out as the “Syrian issues”.
Indeed, he implied the Russian-Chinese coordination at the UN Security Council, which ultimately made the western powers — US, UK and France — bend on the Syrian question.
Xi agreed with Putin and also mentioned Syria, but, interestingly enough, he bracketed it with the North Korea problem, where Xi said China and Russia have “similar or identical positions.” Indeed, Beijing counts on Moscow’s reciprocal support at the UN Security Council over the North Korean problem.
Xi pointedly expressed interest in Russia playing a “significant role” in the Asia-Pacific and in “intensifying” the Chinese Russian cooperation. He conveyed China’s acceptance of the Russian proposal to jointly celebrate the 70th anniversary of victory in World War II, which in Beijing’s estimation holds resonance for the perceived militarism in the Japan’s outlook. Russia and China have common concerns over the deployment of the US’ missile defence system in Japan.
Both Putin and Xi highlighted the cooperation in “some very sensitive areas” (Putin) such as military technology. From the Indian perspective, this is of particular interest.
But then, as they say, what’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. It seems a matter of time before the burgeoning US-Indian partnership impacts on the Russian-Chinese cooperation in military technology, where Moscow has traditionally held back.
Of course, China stands to gain immensely if it gains access to Russia’s military technology. However, in the light of the India-US Joint Declaration on Defence Cooperation on 28th September 2013 issued in Washington during the visit by Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, how could India possibly have heartburn?
The US-Indian declaration underscores, “The United States and India share common security interests and place each other at the same level as their closest partners.” This is way beyond what either Putin or Xi said at their meeting in Bali regarding Russian-Chinese coordination 
India is getting wedged in US-Russian rivalry ...

This is going to be a great strategic problem for India in near future ...

While prospect of US friendship to counteract China is alluring so is fear of losing Russia to China damning ...

India can't possibly maintain parity between US and Russia for long time ...

How India will accommodate this two arch rivals is a million dollar question ???

While India continues to get closer to US it can't complain about convergence of Sino-Russian interests !

and it is going to take more than diplomacy to negotiate this delicate act !!!



India is getting wedged in US-Russian rivalry ...

This is going to be a great strategic problem for India in near future ...

While prospect of US friendship to counteract China is alluring so is fear of losing Russia to China damning ...

India can't possibly maintain parity between US and Russia for long time ...

How India will accommodate this two arch rivals is a million dollar question ???

While India continues to get closer to US it can't complain about convergence of Sino-Russian interests !

and it is going to take more than diplomacy to negotiate this delicate act !!!
 
india has once again shot itself in the foot by ignoring russia

we have failed completely in strategic thinking.going to american camp if just gonna rattle russia
 
india has once again shot itself in the foot by ignoring russia

we have failed completely in strategic thinking.going to american camp if just gonna rattle russia

India might come to the America camp with how things shaking out. India is not enemy of US nor Russia. China is India's enemy. But because China and Russia are both enemy of the US, it just make more sense for India to side with the US.
 
India might come to the America camp with how things shaking out. India is not enemy of US nor Russia. China is India's enemy. But because China and Russia are both enemy of the US, it just make more sense for India to side with the US.
india won't align with anyone

and china and india won't be enemies for a long time..............
 
india won't align with anyone

and china and india won't be enemies for a long time..............

Why won't china and India not be enemies? India regard China as enemy #1. India just created the "China killer" last year. And check out the fights between Chinese and Indian member in here. China and India are definitely not friends and will remain rivals for a long time. 
Why does some feel India moving to the west....

Because India and China are becoming closer. India need to counter that with closer US relationship.
 
Why won't china and India not be enemies? India regard China as enemy #1. India just created the "China killer" last year. And check out the fights between Chinese and Indian member in here. China and India are definitely not friends and will remain rivals for a long time..

normal people....who are not on pdf.....do not consider china as an enemy.....n for some .....china is an inspiration
 
normal people....who are not on pdf.....do not consider china as an enemy.....n for some .....china is an inspiration

for me china is an inspiration and india should try to copy it

chinese and indians are both hard working ppl and normal ppl don't have any enmity for chinese
 
normal people....who are not on pdf.....do not consider china as an enemy.....n for some .....china is an inspiration

If normal Indians do not consider China as enemy, then normal Indians don't come here to this forum? Get real, beyond the "normal people", the India media clearly see China as enemy #1 as they come up with the term "China Killer". Its ok for India to regard China as enemy. But its not ok for you to say that is not true. Ask any Chinese, India or Pakistani here. And everyone would say that China and India are indeed enemies.
 
if it was me I would go with the US, US tech is cool and in abundance, and variety. The Russians in contrast is well not so. They may be able to match the US in one or two key areas, but in terms of the details and the ability to mass produce and throw bodies and money on a project like nobody's business, at this point only the US can.

I mean the F-35 project is many time the yearly expenditure of the Russians. That's power the Russians can never match.


But India also has one more option, carve a sphere for itself and become independent.

BTW, we are not in Russians sphere, our economy is many times hers. Our military expenditure is also more, and the difference will only increase with time.
 
Why won't china and India not be enemies? India regard China as enemy #1. India just created the "China killer" last year. And check out the fights between Chinese and Indian member in here. China and India are definitely not friends and will remain rivals for a long time. 


Because India and China are becoming closer. India need to counter that with closer US relationship.

I guess you meant russia and china are getting closer...... 
if it was me I would go with the US, US tech is cool and in abundance, and variety. The Russians in contrast is well not so. They may be able to match the US in one or two key areas, but in terms of the details and the ability to mass produce and throw bodies and money on a project like nobody's business, at this point only the US can.

I mean the F-35 project is many time the yearly expenditure of the Russians. That's power the Russians can never match.


But India also has one more option, carve a sphere for itself and become independent.

BTW, we are not in Russians sphere, our economy is many times hers. Our military expenditure is also more, and the difference will only increase with time.

exactly as you said we buy stuff from US where Russia is not able to provide the best or when where it wont effect the force's in case of sanctions in time of need.
 
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If normal Indians do not consider China as enemy, then normal Indians don't come here to this forum? Get real, beyond the "normal people", the India media clearly see China as enemy #1 as they come up with the term "China Killer". Its ok for India to regard China as enemy. But its not ok for you to say that is not true. Ask any Chinese, India or Pakistani here. And everyone would say that China and India are indeed enemies.
trust me...every single indian who joined this forum nvr considered china as an enemy....but after seeing the attitude of some chinese towards us over here....like humiliating indians all the time...we had to become like this.....and yeah the media might be a bit of anti-chinese......but normal people....never.....

rather we try to learn and get inspiration from the hardworking chinese and from the rise of china


China is a 'phenomenon', must study its rise, PM tells young IFS officers - Indian Express

Learn from the Chinese, says CM -The New Indian Express
 
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