Polls, what would Erdogan do if Russia and Syria decide to liberate M4 highway

[Muhammed45]

Given Russia's and Syria's decision to implement an agreement to remove terrorists from both sides of the M4 highway, Erdogan is faced with three options.

What would he do?

 

[Battlion25]

There is no way Turkey would accept refugees pushed into their territories this is not on the table. Russia and Turkey will not ignite WW3 for worthless Idlib. The Turks would likely want a vast territories instead on the east of the euphrates as exchange which likely won't happen. They are already rebuilding these areas and resettling refugees it is long term resettlement plan

 

[Muhammed45]

There is no way Turkey would accept refugees pushed into their territories this is not on the table.

When you support and arm terror Groups in your neighboring country then you should be prepared for the consequences. Refugees will surely find a way into Turkey, Turkey cannot shoot at everyone trying to escape the conflict zone. You reap what you sow

Russia and Turkey will not ignite WW3 for worthless Idlib.

No way, Russia might hit Turkey occassionally and vise versa. It won't cause major conflict since Turkey has made a little tilt towards East.

The Turks would likely want a vast territories instead on the east of the euphrates as exchange which likely won't happen.

They are not in that position to Ask for such thing. Syria on the other hand is getting stronger day by day like an iron turning to Steel under continously pressure. There is no month that Syrian airdefense doesn't engage with Israeli missiles and fighters, they engage with Foreign supported elements, they engage with Kurdish separatist Groups supported by USA and Gernmany/France.

They are already rebuilding these areas and resettling refugees it is long term resettlement plan

The time of weaponizing refugees has passed long time ago. USA is weaker than anytime so the NATO card doesn't exist for Turkey.

 

[Titanium100]

When you support and arm terror Groups in your neighboring country then you should be prepared for the consequences. Refugees will surely find a way into Turkey, Turkey cannot shoot at everyone trying to escape the conflict zone. You reap what you sow

No way, Russia might hit Turkey occassionally and vise versa. It won't cause major conflict since Turkey has made a little tilt towards East.

They are not in that position to Ask for such thing. Syria on the other hand is getting stronger day by day like an iron turning to Steel under continously pressure. There is no month that Syrian airdefense doesn't engage with Israeli missiles and fighters, they engage with Foreign supported elements, they engage with Kurdish separatist Groups supported by USA and Gernmany/France.

The time of weaponizing refugees has passed long time ago. USA is weaker than anytime so the NATO card doesn't exist for Turkey.

You must be smoking something strong? Is this taken out of william shakespear? They are in position to ask for everything they patrol between kobani that is the only way they were stopped from storming it and will very much like to storm it and could at any given time. You mean that warlord. He won't even be able to survive few months against the rebels if Russia were to roll-out his that weak his just babysitted. No time passes here until Turkey says otherwise. The USA existence here has no has no correlation with Turkey. It is on it's border fighting terrorist elements like PKK or Hezbollah elements

 

[Muhammed45]

You must be smoking something strong? Is this taken out of william shakespear? They are in position to ask for everything they patrol between kobani that is the only way they were stopped from storming it and will very much like to storm it and could at any given time. You mean that warlord. He won't even be able to survive few months against the rebels if Russia were to roll-out his that weak his just babysitted. No time passes here until Turkey says otherwise. The USA existence here has no has no correlation with Turkey. It is on it's border fighting terrorist elements like PKK or Hezbollah elements

I would be glad to see your proof about storming the area by Turkish forces. You were right they are patrolling the area based on the Sochi agreement but they must fulfill their own part of the agreement and it includes liberation of idlib from Qaeda forces. In this process they have to absorb the refugees and help them to return after the fight is over.

One thing more, Hezbollah is not enemy of Turkey unless Turks want them so.

 

[Battlion25]

I would be glad to see your proof about storming the area by Turkish forces. You were right they are patrolling the area based on the Sochi agreement but they must fulfill their own part of the agreement and it includes liberation of idlib from Qaeda forces. In this process they have to absorb the refugees and help them to return after the fight is over.

One thing more, Hezbollah is not enemy of Turkey unless Turks want them so.

The agreement is to move them away from the area replacing them with SNA not liberation from them as you put it. Or rather disbanded but not of the sort as you put it. Turkey will use that area for resettlement.. All terrorist elements have to be relocated from Syria that includes Hezbollah and PKK Turkey demands their disbandment as per agreement which is not fulfilled..


"There is no change in Idlib. We will preserve the status-quo there," the senior Turkish official told MEE after the meeting.

"The steps we take together regarding Syria carry great importance. The peace there is dependent on Turkey-Russia ties," Erdogan told Putin at the start of their talks.

 

[Muhammed45]

The agreement is to move them away from the area replacing them with SNA not liberation from them as you put it. Or rather disbanded but not of the sort as you put it. Turkey will use that area for resettlement.. All terrorist elements have to be relocated from Syria that includes Hezbollah and PKK Turkey demands their disbandment as per agreement which is not fulfilled..


"There is no change in Idlib. We will preserve the status-quo there," the senior Turkish official told MEE after the meeting.

"The steps we take together regarding Syria carry great importance. The peace there is dependent on Turkey-Russia ties," Erdogan told Putin at the start of their talks.

Erdogan wants to bypass Syria and SAA with making imaginary agreements with Russians in the hope of Russians make deal with them over Syrian allies.

He knows little about Russians and the political atmosphere of Syria, he stepped into this swamp counting on Israeli and NATO support. Now he sees their stab in his back hence putting all his eggs into Russian basket.

USA on one hand is weakened, they cannot Bear an other long term war in Syria. Erdogan knows it well but due to his own weaknesses and the blunders that he has made in the past, he has to Stick to everything he finds around Syrian swamp. He is in no position to dictate anything on Syria and its allies.

 

[Titanium100]

Erdogan wants to bypass Syria and SAA with making imaginary agreements with Russians in the hope of Russians make deal with them over Syrian allies.

He knows little about Russians and the political atmosphere of Syria, he stepped into this swamp counting on Israeli and NATO support. Now he sees their stab in his back hence putting all his eggs into Russian basket.

USA on one hand is weakened, they cannot Bear an other long term war in Syria. Erdogan knows it well but due to his own weaknesses and the blunders that he has made in the past, he has to Stick to everything he finds around Syrian swamp. He is in no position to dictate anything on Syria and its allies.

You are blubbering delusions. USA they are not even in the occasion to begin with. if Russia was to move aside for Turkey all of Syria will go to Turkey in an instant. Hence Russia is technically just babysitting Assad. Also this is not Russia's war if escalation comes from their camp Russia will move aside paving the way for cleansing of greater Syria. Turkey has never been weakened on it's own borders it is at home. Turkey is at home in case you forgot about the geography Russia will babysit him until they get feed up eventually and puruse other interests you know the rest. PKK remains a serious concern and other terrorist elements hence Turkey has the right to dictate it's own security and will not compromise

 

[Muhammed45]

You are blubbering wild delusions. USA weakness? they are not even in the occasion to begin with. if Russia was to move aside for Turkey all of Syria will go to Turkey in an instant. Hence Russia is technically just babysitting Assad. Also this is not Russia's war if escalation comes from their camp Russia will move aside paving the way for cleansing of greater Syria. Turkey has never been weakened on it's own borders it is at home. Turkey is at home in case you forgot about the geography Russia will babysit him until they get feed up eventually and puruse other interests you know the rest

Yes, USA is weakened. Their Afghanistan exit proved it already. They left Afghanistan with a broken image/jaw.

It doesn't mean that USA cannot take on Syria, however Trump tried it with submarine launched cruise missiles, they have other priorities threatening American hegemony in the east. In a short span of time, China will leave them behind militarily and technologically. If China succeeds then USA's over all debt would destroy its Financial leverages in a global scale.

Internal matters of Turkey is not of my concern, not wisihing bad for them. But Syria is not where they can bully us in the hope of Russians.

 

[Titanium100]

Internal matters of Turkey is not of my concern, not wisihing bad for them. But Syria is not where they can bully us in the hope of Russians.

The Assad regime is artificial element that won't be able to last against the rebels if Russia was to leave them alone. Their lifeline is Russia they should be grateful to the Russians. Turkey has no reason to bully them

 

[Muhammed45]

Bully who an artificial element that won't be able to last against the rebels if Russia was to leave them alone. Their lifeline is Russia they should be grateful to the Russians for prolonging and giving them a life-support and babysitting them without that life-support they would have been no more

Man, you easily forget the history. I ask you, for how many years did Iran and Syria resisted against a coalition of Americans Arabs Turks terrorists and Israelis without Russians?
A hint, you can find the answer in the war history of Syria and the Timeline of Iranian presence in the Country.

 

[Titanium100]

Man, you easily forget the history. I ask you, for how many years did Iran and Syria resisted against a coalition of Americans Arabs Turks terrorists and Israelis without Russians?
A hint, you can find the answer in the war history of Syria and the Timeline of Iranian presence in the Country.

4 years they fought but than lost the war and on record Solemni himself said they were defeated by the rebels hence why he asked Moscow to intervene. This has been debated to death horse alas

 

[Foinikas]

When you support and arm terror Groups in your neighboring country then you should be prepared for the consequences.

They were one of the primary countries that helped the insurgency from the very beginning and continued by arming,training,providing safe haven,funding and helping some of the most vile groups in the war. And later started protecting Idlib and using it as a small client State. You are right.

 

[Muhammed45]

4 years they fought but than lost the war and on record Solemni himself said they were defeated by the rebels hence why he asked Moscow to intervene. This has been debated to death horse alas

Thanks for the answer. Russian air support changed the ground in favor of Syrian allies.

 

[Foinikas]

4 years they fought but than lost the war and on record Solemni himself said they were defeated by the rebels hence why he asked Moscow to intervene. This has been debated to death horse alas

The help Iran gave to the Syrians up to that point was relatively small. They couldn't send big forces and tanks,airplanes etc.
We all know the Russians actually turned the war when they intervened.