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Pakistan will be forced to retaliate, CIA chief told
By Kamran Yousaf
Published: September 28, 2011
ISLAMABAD:
The effort to ensure that diplomacy and calmer heads prevail at a time of fragile relations between Pakistan and the United States is on. However, the effort notwithstanding, Islamabad has made it clear to Washington that, if it comes down to it, Pakistan will be forced to retaliate if American forces attempt to launch a unilateral strike on the country’s tribal belt.
The message was personally delivered by Inter-Services Intelligence agency (ISI) Chief Lt General Ahmed Shuja Pasha to Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) chief General David Petraeus during his recent trip to Washington, said an official familiar with the development.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told The Express Tribune that Pasha had informed his counterpart that the Pakistani people will not tolerate any US misadventure and in that case the government will be left with no other option but to retaliate.
Senior ISI members, the official said, had felt ‘betrayed’ by the blunt assessment of the US Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen that the spy agency had links with the Afghan Taliban-allied Haqqani network. In a stinging remark, Mullen accused ISI of supporting one of the most feared Afghan insurgent groups to target US forces stationed in Afghanistan.
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But, in a closed-door meeting of the Senate Standing Committee on Defence on Tuesday, a senior ISI official said that the US was simply attempting to make Pakistan the ‘scapegoat’ to cover up its failures in neighbouring Afghanistan.
Sore wounds from the May 2 US raid in Abbottabad that killed Osama bin Laden were also reopened in the meeting when a lawmaker, quoting an ISI official, told the parliamentary panel that Pakistan will not tolerate any unilateral strike on its soil by US forces to target the alleged safe havens of the Haqqani network.
“We cannot be caught off guard this time,” the official told lawmakers, referring to the raid that embarrassed the country’s powerful security establishment about its ignorance of the world’s most wanted man’s whereabouts. “This time, we will give them a surprise if they (Americans) dare,” he said.
Speaking to reporters, committee chair Lt General (retd) Javed Ashraf Qazi confirmed that lawmakers had voiced serious concern over threats emanating from Washington. Qazi, who also served as ISI chief in the 90s, insisted that Pakistan had the capability to give a ‘befitting response’ to any attempts by the US to invade the tribal areas.
Meetings continue
A frenzy of meetings continued, meanwhile, in Islamabad. US Ambassador to Pakistan Cameron Munter is reported to have met Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir, for the second time in 24 hours, and later Pakistan President Asif Ali Zardari.
The president also met Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani Zardari to discuss the situation.
A statement released by the media office of the President House said that the two leaders also discussed the all parties conference scheduled for September 29.
Reposing confidence in the ability of the democratic leadership to stand united at all times that call for unity, the president expressed hope that the country’s political leadership will be able to reach a consensus, the statement said.
Over in Washington, US Special Envoy to Pakistan and Afghanistan Marc Grossman phoned the Pakistan Envoy to the US Hussain Haqqani in a bid to cool down the heated diplomatic state between the two countries.
Grossman said that the US and Pakistan were united on a wide range of issues, even though they differed over the Haqqani network.
We are funding the enemy: US congressman
Back in Washington, American congressmen were presented with an anti-Pakistan bill called the “Pakistan Accountability Act”, introduced by Congressman Ted Poe from Texas who is an outspoken critic of Pakistan.
“This legislation will freeze all US aid to Pakistan with the exception of funds that are designated to help secure nuclear weapons,” says a transcript available on the Congressman’s website.
Citing Mullen’s statement on Pakistan supporting the Haqqani network, Poe said that, “Since the discovery of Osama bin Laden in Abbottabad, Pakistan has proven to be disloyal, deceptive and a danger to the US. This so-called ally continues to take billions in US aid, while at the same time supports militants who attack us. The US must immediately freeze all aid to Pakistan. Pakistan has made it painfully obvious that they will continue their policy of duplicity and deceit by pretending to be our ally while simultaneously promoting violent extremism. By continuing to provide aid to Pakistan, we are funding the enemy, endangering Americans and undermining our efforts in the region,” he said.
Meanwhile, the prime minister, in an interview with Reuters, also struck a defiant tone – clearly warning the US on Tuesday to stop accusing it of playing a double game with militants.
“The negative messaging, naturally that is disturbing my people,” Gilani said. “If there is messaging that is not appropriate to our friendship, then naturally it is extremely difficult to convince my public. Therefore they should be sending positive messages.”
He implied that the US’ recent ratcheting up of pressure on Pakistan reflected frustration with the war in Afghanistan. “Certainly they expected more results from Afghanistan, which they have not been able to achieve as yet,” he said. “They have not achieved what they visualized.”
(With additional reporting by Huma Imtiaz in Washington)
Published in The Express Tribune, September 28th, 2011.
 
Excellent - the same message should be delivered at every level of government.

The Russians, Chinese and Indians don't just sit back and 'take' any criticism or policy statements by the US that they disagree with.

Hit back and hit back hard, for too long the US has been allowed to berate and denigrate Pakistan to varying degrees with little fightback from Pakistan, and now it has gotten to this point. Had Pakistan stood up to the US on earlier transgressions, this current smear campaign and propaganda by the US would have likely not come to pass.
 
I think mid course corrections are already underway at the Pentagon. This is not the way long time allies behave. A total breakdown of relations is in no one's interests. I always thought that senior American generals were well versed in diplomacy but a few refresher courses maybe in order.
 
i remember one comment warned by Saddam hussein just before americans were to start their bombing raids. He said that iraq will shoot down american planes like sparrows from the sky. LOL.. mother of all battles. what's his "hang-up' in life
 
Pakistan doesn't fit in the parameters in which US had brought Iraq or Afghanistan. Iraq had years of sanctions and a regime which was hated by its own people. Afghanistan was troubled land but US miscalculated it and now it is facing the music of that miscalculation. I doubt if USA would be that idiot to offend Pakistan and get wiped from this region. We have defeated a super-power before and we have only more means to do it again.

Right now Pakistan is only quiet aboout the terrorists drilling US @sses. Guess what is going to happen to them if we started doing it "as well" ;) But only few have capacity to undestand that. I don't want to disturb few manics who are having chain of orgasm by imagining fairy tales. :azn:
 
I don't think aggressive attitude will work.

USA is no alien to threats and culling them. The CIA is known for its successful covert or overt missions.

They have the money, manpower, technology almost everything one can dream of. And they ruthlessly use it for their proposes.

In the past they have done in many parts of world:

Funding, training, supplying separatists/freedom fighters/radicals

Breaking nations

Damaging economies

Supporting neighbors

Eliminating leaders

Regime change/installation of puppets

etc. etc.

And in these case no matter how it wants pakistan can't retaliate to US.

And not to forget USA is not alone whole west is with it including Saudi Arabia, Turkey etc.
 
Excellent - the same message should be delivered at every level of government.

The Russians, Chinese and Indians don't just sit back and 'take' any criticism or policy statements by the US that they disagree with.

Hit back and hit back hard, for too long the US has been allowed to berate and denigrate Pakistan to varying degrees with little fightback from Pakistan, and now it has gotten to this point. Had Pakistan stood up to the US on earlier transgressions, this current smear campaign and propaganda by the US would have likely not come to pass.

So exactly how did Pakistan hit back "hard"?

The actions to come by both sides will easily show who hit hard and who achieved what.
 
Well, Pakistan should make counter statements to the US and not sit idle against these accusations.

A war is not going to happen though. And sanctions and embargoes are about 2 years away, until the US pulls out of Afghanistan.

On another note, what happened to the Bill that was introduced saying that all aid to Pakistan should be stopped, has it been passed?
 
the americans i think drunk and going high

they want ppl to stay away from domestic issue in there country which is more important

by looking to pakistan someone can say easily how much sacrifice they have done and still doing and still will do

american failure in afgan now they want to blame pakistan for it

i wish Pakistan gives a good blow to usa if they attack
 
A Spokesman of ISPR has contradicted the story published in a section of the press captioned “ Pakistan will be forced to retaliate”
,CIA chief told, and said that the contents of the story and remarks attributed to DG ISI are factually incorrect and misleading. Media should refrain from speculative reporting on such sensitive issues related to national security.

http://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/main.asp?o=t-press_release&id=1857

Wait, lets see what the Pakistani tv channels are saying -


TELL YOUR PEOPLE THE TRUTH. STOP THIS PROPAGANDA OF ANTI-AMERICANISM!
 
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Pakistan doesn't fit in the parameters in which US had brought Iraq or Afghanistan. Iraq had years of sanctions and a regime which was hated by its own people.
You forgot about Persian Gulf War 1991. Iraq was the greatest military power in the middle-east at that time.

And yet?

Afghanistan was troubled land but US miscalculated it and now it is facing the music of that miscalculation.
Afghanistan is like a graveyard. One can do nothing about it unless Afghans themselves decide to uplift their nation.

I doubt if USA would be that idiot to offend Pakistan and get wiped from this region.
Again! A one-sided assessment?

We have defeated a super-power before and we have only more means to do it again.
You need a improve your knowledge. USSR collapsed because of its weak principles. And COLD WAR took its toll.

Right now Pakistan is only quiet aboout the terrorists drilling US @sses. Guess what is going to happen to them if we started doing it "as well" ;) But only few have capacity to undestand that. I don't want to disturb few manics who are having chain of orgasm by imagining fairy tales. :azn:
Never underestimate your enemies. If Pakistan and USA clash; both will be loosers in the Afghan front. And Pakistan is even weaker position then USA.
 
i wish Pakistan gives a good blow to usa if they attack
It is not so easy.

USA still packs some serious punch. The case of Libya is in front of us.

USA is a wounded Tiger in current times. However, a wounded Tiger is also very dangerous.

Furthermore, WOT has taken its toll on Pakistan. Another war would be far more damaging.

Point is that Pakistani media is hyping things up.

Pakistan and USA are engaged in tit for tat POLITICAL EXCHANGES and nothing else.
 
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