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ISLAMABAD -- With a decision to fast-track the construction of a natural gas pipeline from Iran, Pakistan is underscoring not only the energy needs of its flailing economy but also its growing estrangement from Washington.

The move came despite the objections of the United States and could put Pakistan at risk of violating U.S. sanctions on Tehran aimed at denying Iran hard currency that it needs for its nuclear and ballistic missile programs. But as President Asif Ali Zardari said in a rare television interview last week, Pakistan has no choice but to seek greater ties with its neighbors - Iran, China, India and Afghanistan - "because the economies of the West are in trouble and not in a position to help us."

Zardari's comments were the clearest enunciation yet of a change in Pakistan's foreign policy away from the United States as Islamabad plans for 2014, when U.S.-led NATO combat forces are expected to stand down in Afghanistan.

Zardari said Pakistan would not be drawn into new American "theaters of war" in the region - a clear reference to fresh U.S. sanctions against Iran and tensions stemming from Tehran's threat to close the Strait of Hormuz, a vital waterway for oil traffic. Pakistan, he said, would accelerate the construction of a natural gas pipeline from Iran to plug a supply shortfall that in December brought the economy here to a near standstill.

"We will not limit our commercial relations with any country because of the political whims of any outside power," Zardari told the Geo cable news channel in an interview aired Friday. "Our priority is the needs of our population of nearly 200 million people."

The U.S. has repeatedly urged Pakistan to reconsider its plans to import up to 1 billion cubic meters of natural gas a year beginning in 2017 from Iran's South Pars field - part of a geological structure under the Persian Gulf that forms the world's largest deposit of natural gas. Last week, State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said, "We've made absolutely clear over many months now our concern about this deal and we will continue to talk to Pakistan about it."

Iran has completed construction of the $7.5 billion pipeline up to the border with Pakistan, which has begun preparing to assemble its section. The countries are targeting mid-2014 for gas supplies to begin flowing.

Foreign policy analysts linked Pakistan's growing ties with Iran to the deterioration of its relationship with Washington since May, when U.S. officials decided not to inform their Pakistani counterparts of the covert U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden 60 miles north of Islamabad.

The relationship plunged to its lowest point after NATO forces inadvertently killed about two dozen Pakistani soldiers in a friendly-fire incident on the Afghanistan border in November. Pakistan has since barred the passage of NATO military supplies through its border crossings into Afghanistan, while a parliamentary committee weighs possible foreign policy changes that could include attempting to renegotiate U.S.-Pakistani defense agreements. A special session of parliament is expected to vote on the committee's recommendations later this month.

"Since 9/11, Pakistan has been obliged to cede a lot of regional strategic decision-making to the U.S, and its relations with Iran suffered badly," said Ghani Jafar, an expert and commentator on Pakistan-Iran relations.


"Now it has chosen to exercise its strategic prerogative of building good relations with Iran. India to the east has been hostile, and Afghanistan to the northwest has hardly been a friend. Come what may, we have got to have Iran as a friend," Jafar said.

China, Pakistan's closest ally, is on course to surpass the U.S. as Pakistan's biggest trading partner by 2015 and is gradually taking on the role of its major infrastructure investment partner.

Last week, China also agreed to help shore up Pakistan's devaluing rupee and extended a line of credit to allow Islamabad to make payments on an International Monetary Fund loan.

Pakistan's moves come as new U.S. sanctions target Iran's oil exports and European Union nations have agreed in principle to ban imports of Iranian oil in response to Tehran's nuclear program, which is widely believed to be secretly developing a nuclear weapon, an allegation denied by Iran.

U.S.-Iranian tensions rose sharply this week when Tehran claimed that it had begun to enrich uranium at a second nuclear facility, and Iran's judiciary sentenced an imprisoned 28-year-old American to death for espionage, a charge his family has denied.

Pakistan could face U.S. sanctions under this deal with Iran, but the Obama administration has waived the sanctions for nations such as China in order not to upset world oil markets or jeopardize important relationships. Michael Singh, the senior director for Middle Eastern affairs on President George W. Bush's National Security Council, said that Obama faces a quandary in deciding whether to sanction Pakistan.

"They've avoided sanctioning Chinese entities. Would they do the same with Pakistan? It certainly is possible, given the deteriorating state of relations," said Singh, now managing director of the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. "They may not want to be forced into a confrontation with the Pakistanis right now with things being so delicate."

With Iran under increasing pressure, Pakistan in December turned to China to underwrite the pipeline project. At Pakistan's suggestion, China is considering whether to import Iranian gas via an extension of the Pakistan pipeline - a move that would make it the third prospective partner in the project. China would replace India, which backed out in 2008 after signing a deal with the United States for the transfer of nuclear power generation technology.

Pakistan demanded a similar deal from the United States but was rebuffed because its former top nuclear scientist, Abdul Qadeer Khan, was caught red-handed in 2003 selling uranium enrichment technology to Libya. Khan's illicit network also supplied nuclear weapons-related technology to Iran.

Washington is backing an alternative pipeline project that would supply a similar amount of natural gas from the central Asian republic of Turkmenistan, via Afghanistan, to Pakistan and onward to India. But the project is lagging about four years behind the Iranian pipeline.

While Pakistani officials have been involved in negotiations over the Turkmenistan project, they privately express doubts that Turkmenistan has sufficient gas - and note that the pipeline could only be constructed once violence ebbs in Afghanistan.

"The Iranian pipeline is the only feasible, practicable solution to Pakistan's energy crisis," Jafar said.

Demand for natural gas in Pakistan is outpacing supply by 25 percent, forcing the country to institute rationing for homes, motorists and factories and phase out subsidies, which has sparked nationwide protests. Currently, gas stations are open just three days a week in a nation that reportedly has 2.5 million compressed natural gas-powered road vehicles.

Gas-powered fertilizer plants haven't been able to produce at full capacity, creating nationwide agricultural shortages and doubling prices during the crucial wheat-planting season. The shortages also have harmed Pakistan's textile industry, the biggest private sector employer and producer of $22 billion in export earnings, easily Pakistan's biggest source of foreign currency.

Parallel to the pipeline, Pakistan is close to finalizing an agreement to import 1,000 megawatts per day of Iranian-generated electricity.

Pakistan also is exploring the possibility of importing 500 megawatts of electricity from the Indian border state of Punjab - part of tentative negotiations between Pakistan and India toward a comprehensive settlement of longstanding disputes between the nuclear rivals.

Pakistan speeds pursuit of Iranian pipeline, defying US - World Wires - MiamiHerald.com
 
heck with usa already, we need to solve our energy crises first
 
I am surprised, did the army gave him a transplant of new pair of balls! or he had been given a shot of manhood enhancement pills?
 
I hope the report is true and they do defy US of America at least on this issue.
 
pak-iran pipeline wouldnt be a good option due to high gas cost and linkage of gas prices to oil
secondly i dont think so iran will be a reilable suppleir

lastly we should at moment focus on coal and hydral so we can get the additonal gas that is been spent on elctric genration(30% of indigenous going for electric sector)
 
pak-iran pipeline wouldnt be a good option due to high gas cost and linkage of gas prices to oil
secondly i dont think so iran will be a reilable suppleir

lastly we should at moment focus on coal and hydral so we can get the additonal gas that is been spent on elctric genration(30% of indigenous going for electric sector)

we have a huge gas problem if it really exists that is it will be good to get gas from a very large reserve and on top of it all we can give it to china or india if they get the guts and make money from the transit fees...... we could also supply gas to places where there is no gas and develop pakistan and balochistan with this gawader port we might need alot of gas and on the other hand that tapi is a thousand times more dangerous
 
we have a huge gas problem if it really exists that is it will be good to get gas from a very large reserve and on top of it all we can give it to china or india if they get the guts and make money from the transit fees...... we could also supply gas to places where there is no gas and develop pakistan and balochistan with this gawader port we might need alot of gas and on the other hand that tapi is a thousand times more dangerous
india pulled out of the project due to PRICING saying its not acceptable.
iran knows we have no choice so as other pipelines are not viable so its over pricing us.

it would be better we import LNG to pressurize iran to lower down their prices.
 
well Pakistan is caught between a rock and a hard place.......

if we pursue it -- we will face retaliation. Even the Japs and Chinese are trying to distance themselves away from Iranian gas imports. We'll have to play it carefully.


at the same rate, if we renege on the deal ---we will incur HUGE cost in fines payable to Iranian government --they've already begun the laying down of the pipeline on their side


whatever Pakistan does, it should be in Pakistan's best national interest....


Pakistan is also sitting on a decent natural gas reserves which should also be exploited
 
Zardari is playing game... right now our govt is "Shia" Govt. Why Zardari put soo much pressure on the parties like military and others and again and again said "ham kise ke nahe suneengay chahay koi kuch b kahay" because he willl get massive $$$$ from Iran if this gas pipeline will complete. Iran is a Shia Country and Right now Pakistan also have Shia govt. I also heared many things related this IP issue from many ******* people!

Oh i see its a shia issue damm you are too smart for shias you got them boy you are smart. i suppose all farmers in Pakistan are shias and all industry workers in Pakistan are shia all house hold and restaurants in Pakistan using gas are shias you are the smartest one i have seen including ziaulisum.I will ask the management of this forum to make you The Think Tank right away .

I say you start the protest including never to use Gas + electricity as you never no which gas are you going to be using it could be the Iranian gas plus the electricity could be Indian or Iranian so you see this way Iran plus the shias wont get any $$$$$$$$$$ it will be a win win situation:victory: i would also ask you to park any kind of automobile you have as Pakistan has been importing petrol plus diesel from Iran.
 
Zardari is playing game... right now our govt is "Shia" Govt. Why Zardari put soo much pressure on the parties like military and others and again and again said "ham kise ke nahe suneengay chahay koi kuch b kahay" because he willl get massive $$$$ from Iran if this gas pipeline will complete. Iran is a Shia Country and Right now Pakistan also have Shia govt. I also heared many things related this IP issue from many ******* people!

I really expected much better from you, dude.

your post surprised me quite a lot

i guess as per the same logic, Pakistan is a Shiia country then because it's Founding Father was also a Shiia?


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india pulled out of the project due to PRICING saying its not acceptable.
iran knows we have no choice so as other pipelines are not viable so its over pricing us.

it would be better we import LNG to pressurize Iran to lower down their prices.

From where please do tell us all i wanna no who is willing to sell you LNG for what the Iranians gas will cost do u even have a clue
 
Zardari is playing game... right now our govt is "Shia" Govt. Why Zardari put soo much pressure on the parties like military and others and again and again said "ham kise ke nahe suneengay chahay koi kuch b kahay" because he willl get massive $$$$ from Iran if this gas pipeline will complete. Iran is a Shia Country and Right now Pakistan also have Shia govt. I also heared many things related this IP issue from many ******* people!
What rubbish is that ? I haven't heard a more ridiculous thing than this ... We aren't interested in what hate or IP conspiracy theories you heard at some tea stand ... Liaquat Ali Khan was the one to establish relations with the US and get weapons and aid from them ... Was he a Christian or a Zionist ? Tell you what kid , dont post on things of which you know nothing about ... Nest slugheads like you will be cursing the Govt for gas loadshedding in the another thread wondering why it cant solve the problem ...

@mods

Kindly delete this rubbish bull **** crap post ... This isn't a sectarian issue or something religious ...
 
Yes! we sholdn't talk about sectarian stuff here. Cuz this gonna hurt us all and the evil US wanna take advantage of this crap.The IP project is utmost important for the economy of our country and to bring down $$$ eventually. We Iran and Pakistan needs to be united against this evil US cuz they are coming against both of us eventually....:smokin:
 
Zardari is playing game... right now our govt is "Shia" Govt. Why Zardari put soo much pressure on the parties like military and others and again and again said "ham kise ke nahe suneengay chahay koi kuch b kahay" because he willl get massive $$$$ from Iran if this gas pipeline will complete. Iran is a Shia Country and Right now Pakistan also have Shia govt. I also heared many things related this IP issue from many ******* people!
wtf is wrong wth u? here, we r trying to get our nation together and u r busy doing the exact opposite, sharam karo plz
 
Zardari is playing game... right now our govt is "Shia" Govt. Why Zardari put soo much pressure on the parties like military and others and again and again said "ham kise ke nahe suneengay chahay koi kuch b kahay" because he willl get massive $$$$ from Iran if this gas pipeline will complete. Iran is a Shia Country and Right now Pakistan also have Shia govt. I also heared many things related this IP issue from many ******* people!

Zardari is not shia. Get your facts rectified dear bro.
 
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