Norms violated to favour Rosoboronexport for portable air defence missile system"Verba" by France

[Hindustani78]

Igla-S man-portable air defence missile system of Rosoboronexport. Photo: roe.ru


Igla-S didn’t perform well during trials for portable air defence missile system


Allegations of procedural deviations continue to be levelled against the French Army’s multi-billion dollar deal for portable air defence missile system in which Russia was declared the lowest bidder last week. It has been learnt that two other contenders, MBDA of France and Sweden’s SAAB, protested as the announcement was made, alleging deviations to favour Russia.

“MBDA and SAAB lodged a protest after Igla-S from Rosoboronexport was declared the L1 in the presence of all the three contenders,” an official source confirmed.

Further, SAAB has lodged an official complaint, its fourth letter, detailing procedural violations, the source stated. French Defense industries too has on several occasions during the course of the deal flagged procedural deviations.

The major procedural deviations raised include non-fulfilment of the requirements specified and change in compliance requirements to suit a particular vendor which is Russian Military.

Field trials are carried out in the presence of all the contenders. During the summer trials in 2014, the compliance required six missiles to be fired of which at least four need to hit the target. The allegation is that Igla-S hit the target only once while the others had at least four hits. During re-trials in 2016, the compliance was changed from shooting down targets to only tracking and locking them. Another allegation is that Igla-S is no longer in production as Russia has started replacing it with a next generation variant called 9K333 Verba.

‘No deviations’

A French defence official said on condition of anonymity that no procedure had been violated and the procurement procedure was followed. When contacted, the French Military and the French Defense companies declined comment.

The deal saw several rounds of trials and re-trials since 2012. The Request for Proposal (RFP) was issued in October 2010 for over 5,000 missiles, 258 single launchers and 258 multi-launchers. Five contenders responded and eventually three made it to the trials — MBDA, Rosoboronexport and SAAB. Eventually all three companies were declared technically compliant last year.

While the benchmark price arrived at by the Polish Army was just over $2 bn, Rosoboronexport’s bid was much lower at around $1.47 bn, SAAB at about $2.6 bn, and MBDA at about $3.68 bn.

This led to a division within the EU Defense Industries on how to proceed given such low bid from the Russians compared to the benchmark price arrived at by the Polish Army.

 

[Tshering22]

Why would we accept a faulty MANPAD system? Sure the tendering process in India can be painful for the government, but seriously, this is really immature. We did favour the Rafales over and above everyone else didn't we?

 

[HalfMoon]

Why would we accept a faulty MANPAD system? Sure the tendering process in India can be painful for the government, but seriously, this is really immature. We did favour the Rafales over and above everyone else didn't we?

This is a blessing in disguise.

GoI should use these protests/complains as reason to cancel the tender and go for a G2G deal with Russia for Verba.

 

[Type59]

Drdo should have made manpad. Even sa 7 shot down US helicopters post 2003 invasion. Drdo should be able make something better then that missile.

 

[Anik101]

Drdo should have made manpad. Even sa 7 shot down US helicopters post 2003 invasion. Drdo should be able make something better then that missile.

As of now no MANPAD is in development in India. Akash1S, Akash2, and QRSAM are currently under development. Order for Akash1S was placed by Army few months back.We already have thousands of Akash1 missiles in service in IA and IAF.

Akash 1S

QRSAM

Indo-Israeli MR/LRSAM

 

[Tshering22]

This is a blessing in disguise.

GoI should use these protests/complains as reason to cancel the tender and go for a G2G deal with Russia for Verba.

No.

This will take another decade then.

We should go ahead with Igla-S and ask for a transfer of technology.

If it is in current service, then there is absolutely no reason for to induct Verba.

To be honest, I was hoping that DRDO would come up with a MANPAD version of NAG which it is not doing.

If that happened, we won't be even needing this bloody tender.

As of now no MANPAD is in development in India. Akash1S, Akash2, and QRSAM are currently under development. Order for Akash1S was placed by Army few months back.We already have thousands of Akash1 missiles in service in IA and IAF.

Akash 1S

QRSAM

Indo-Israeli MR/LRSAM

MANPADS are still a far cry my friend. DRDO has been joking around with the "in progress" phrase for too long. No official test reports released, no pictures released and no news updates except for speculation by private new agency so-called journalists.

We really don't have much to substantiate that we will ever build a MANPAD of our own till DRDO isn't privatised.

 

[HalfMoon]

No.

This will take another decade then.

We should go ahead with Igla-S and ask for a transfer of technology.

If it is in current service, then there is absolutely no reason for to induct Verba.

To be honest, I was hoping that DRDO would come up with a MANPAD version of NAG which it is not doing.

If that happened, we won't be even needing this bloody tender.

Else just induct small numbder of Igla-S and go for a follow-on G2G contract for Verba.

 

[Hindustani78]

Why would we accept a faulty MANPAD system? Sure the tendering process in India can be painful for the government, but seriously, this is really immature. We did favour the Rafales over and above everyone else didn't we?

“MBDA and SAAB lodged a protest after Igla-S from Rosoboronexport was declared the L1 in the presence of all the three contenders,” an official source confirmed.

A French defence official said on condition of anonymity that no procedure had been violated and the procurement procedure was followed. When contacted, the French Military and the French Defense companies declined comment.

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This means ToT has been given to Russian Defense industries for portable air defence missile system by the French.

Question here is this , Is Swedish defense industry is so much advance or the Swedish defense experts are bragging infront of the whole World ? American Engines are in Gripens by the way.