New Perspective : Link between Abrahm and Brahma/Brahmins

[Kashmiri Pandit]

I know religious discussions are not allowed but my curiosity got the better of me .

A year ago , I came across several articles , that showed the similarities between Abraham of Jews , Christians and Muslims with Brahma of Hindus . Once reading about the chronology of Bible , I came across Timeline of Abraham . Abraham existed around 1900 BCE , which coincides with the extinction of IVC and disappearance of Saraswati . Few hundred years later , We see the appearance of Brahmins , in the South Asia .

Things to be noted that as per Various regular Mythologies , Classes of Priests existed much before 1900 BCE .

So Is it possible to say , Early class of Priests were the Followers of Abraham but with passage of time and development of new ideas , we see various changes in the philosophies .

Who Was Abraham?

Abraham = Brahma; Sarah =Saraswati | Hindu focus

Brahma and Abraham: Divine Covenants of Common Origin | Rainbow Warrior - Academia.edu

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

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[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

There is no link , one was fact people who existed and other is merely tales and fictional work stored and no one knows if these were real stories or people

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

There is no link , one was fact people who existed and other is merely tales and fictional work stored and no one knows if these were real stories or people

Any religious book of the world will be considered fairy Tail by non believers .
At best we should accept they all are true in their own sense but due to huge span of time and no Written script , got modified by the time they were written .

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

No body or evidence existed , most of it is "stories" from mind of pundit or folklore.

Also the genetic comparison also does not match

Someone breaks into home and puts a murti and then that place becomes a shrine , that is not same as an actual person being born and lived on planet earth document by three religions

Jewish/Christianity/Islam

And also leave behind rich genetic imprint of similarities

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

No body or evidence existed , most of it is "stories" from mind of pundit or folklore.

Also the genetic comparison also does not match

Someone breaks into home and puts a murti and then that place becomes a shrine , that is not same as an actual person being born and lived on planet earth document by three religions

Jewish/Christianity/Islam

And also leave behind rich genetic imprint of similarities

Did U read the links ???

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Someone breaks into home and puts a murti and then that place becomes a shrine , that is not same as an actual person being born and lived on planet earth document by three religions

The historicity is not being discussed here.

It is most likely that Abraham was a mythological figure in the old scriptures and the others just merely copied the theme.

No proof exists of the actual person being born and documented.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

If it was important , it would show up in Torah / Bibile or Quran however its not mentioned

Because I have read Quaran many times , and never seen anyone of name Sarsawati or Nehru or Bhrama

Best approach is to focus on your own religion and don't bring our faith into your discussions as there is no common elements in term of dieties or god

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

If it was important , it would show up in Torah / Bibile or Quran however its not mentioned

At best they tell about the history of Middle east .
South Asia's history is documented in texts of Hindus , Buddhists and Jains .

If it was important , it would show up in Torah / Bibile or Quran however its not mentioned

Because I have read Quaran many times , and never seen anyone of name Sarsawati or Nehru or Bhrama

Best approach is to focus on your own religion and don't bring our faith into your discussions as there is no common elements in term of dieties or god

Abraham , Sarah and Hagar have similarities with Brahma , Saraswati and Hakkar

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Best approach is to focus on your own religion and don't bring our faith into your discussions as there is no common elements in term of dieties or god

I will correct you there. There is no need to bring Islam into inter religious discussions and insult Muslims. It is a fact that all other people are pretty much okay with inter religious dialogue on core issues. Muslims are not permitted to do so as theirs is a perfect scripture and not open to question. They take offence and there is violence. Better to avoid that.

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

If it was important , it would show up in Torah / Bibile or Quran however its not mentioned

Because I have read Quaran many times , and never seen anyone of name Sarsawati or Nehru or Bhrama

Best approach is to focus on your own religion and don't bring our faith into your discussions as there is no common elements in term of dieties or god

Jews , Christians and Muslims share same book/history/prophets . Then why name of Allah absent in other two . The simple answer is different Language .
I think even the names of Prophets have changed . Abraham to Ibraham , Jesus changes to Isa .

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Blood and genetic examination would be great , thank you

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

Blood and genetic examination would be great , thank you

Genetics says , no new gene entered India in 12,500 years .
Then IVC belongs to Indians just like Pakistanis .

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

What about Rahul Gandhi he is half Italian that is a mixed genetics right there

But in any case most evidence even on the "diety" artwork and murti from old times indictae they were all painted black and had unique visual differences from folks in modern times

Highly unlikely that arabs or look alikes (abraham) would be similar to folks from ancient india unless there is blood or genetic evidence (which obviously does not exists)

 

[Kashmiri Pandit]

What about Rahul Gandhi he is half Italian that is a mixed genetics right there

‘Fourth strand’ of ancient European ancestry spread to India
Now its all mixed up
South Asia has been home to heterogeneous society
European genes were spread in South Asia long back . Rahul baba is a tiny particle compared to that

Highly unlikely that arabs or look alikes (abraham) would be similar to folks from ancient india unless there is blood or genetic evidence (which obviously does not exists)

I said followers of Abraham and not descendants Didn't Abraham sent his son with Gifts which came to South Asia .