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JERUSALEM — Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu endorsed the idea of establishing an independent Palestinian state beside Israel for the first time on Sunday, dramatically reversing himself in the face of U.S. pressure but attaching conditions the Palestinians swiftly rejected.

A week after President Barack Obama's address to the Muslim world, Netanyahu said the Palestinian state would have to be unarmed and recognize Israel as the Jewish state _ a condition amounting to Palestinian refugees giving up the goal of returning to Israel.

With those conditions, he said, he could accept "a demilitarized Palestinian state alongside the Jewish state."

Netanyahu, in an address seen as his response to Obama, he refused to heed the U.S. call for an immediate freeze of construction on lands Palestinians claim for their future state. He also said the holy city of Jerusalem must remain under Israeli sovereignty.

Senior Palestinian official Saeb Erekat said the plan "closed the door" to negotiations. In Washington, the White House said Obama welcomed the speech as an "important step forward."

Netanyahu's address had been eagerly anticipated in the wake of Obama's landmark speech to the Muslim world.

Many Israeli commentators speculated that after the re-election of Iran's hardline president, Netanyahu would focus the address on the threat of Iran's suspect nuclear program. While reiterating his belief that a nuclear-armed Iran is a grave threat, Netanyahu spent little time on the issue.

His speech was a dramatic transformation for a man who was raised on a fiercely nationalistic ideology and has spent a two-decade political career criticizing peace efforts.

"I call on you, our Palestinian neighbors, and to the leadership of the Palestinian Authority: Let us begin peace negotiations immediately, without preconditions," he said, calling on the wider Arab world to work with him. "Let's make peace. I am willing to meet with you any time any place _ in Damascus, Riyadh, Beirut and in Jerusalem."

Since assuming office in March, Netanyahu has been caught between American demands to begin peace talks with the Palestinians and the constraints of a hardline coalition. With his speech, he appeared to favor Israel's all-important relationship with the U.S. at the risk of destabilizing his government.

Netanyahu laid out his vision in a half-hour speech broadcast nationwide during prime time. He spoke at Bar-Ilan University, known as a bastion of the Israeli right-wing establishment, and his call for establishing a Palestinian state was greeted with lukewarm applause.

As Netanyahu spoke, two small groups of protesters demonstrated at the entrance to the university.

Several dozen hard-liners held up posters showing Obama wearing an Arab headdress and shouted slogans against giving up West Bank territory. Across from them, a few dozen dovish Israelis and foreign backers chanted slogans including "two states for two peoples" and "stop the occupation."

Police kept the two groups apart.

The Palestinians demand all of the West Bank as part of a future state, with east Jerusalem as their capital. Israel captured both areas in the 1967 Mideast war.

Netanyahu, leader of the hardline Likud Party, has always resisted withdrawing from these lands, for both security and ideological reasons. In his speech, he repeatedly made references to Judaism's connection to the biblical Land of Israel.

"Our right to form our sovereign state here in the land of Israel stems from one simple fact. The Land of Israel is the birthplace of the Jewish people," he said.


But Netanyahu also said that Israel must recognize that millions of Palestinians live in the West Bank, and continued control over these people is undesirable. "In my vision, there are two free peoples living side by side each with each other, each with its own flag and national anthem," he said.

Netanyahu has said he fears the West Bank could follow the path of the Gaza Strip _ which the Palestinians also claim for their future state. Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, and Hamas militants now control the area, often firing rockets into southern Israel.

"In any peace agreement, the territory under Palestinian control must be disarmed, with solid security guarantees for Israel," he said.

"If we get this guarantee for demilitarization and necessary security arrangements for Israel, and if the Palestinians recognize Israel as the state of the Jewish people, we will be willing in a real peace agreement to reach a solution of a demilitarized Palestinian state alongside the Jewish state," he said.

Netanyahu became the latest in a series of Israeli hard-liners to soften their positions after assuming office. Earlier this decade, then-Prime Minister Ariel Sharon led Israel out of Gaza before suffering a debilitating stroke. His successor, Ehud Olmert, spoke eloquently of the need to withdraw from the West Bank, though a corruption scandal a disastrous war in Lebanon prevented him from carrying out that vision.

Netanyahu gave no indication as to how much captured land he would be willing to relinquish. However, he ruled out a division of Jerusalem, saying, "Israel's capital will remain united."

Netanyahu also made no mention of uprooting Jewish settlements in the West Bank. Nearly 300,000 Israelis live in the West Bank, in addition to 180,000 Israelis living in Jewish neighborhoods built in east Jerusalem. He also said that existing settlements should be allowed to grow _ a position opposed by the U.S.

"We have no intention to build new settlements or expropriate land for expanding existing settlements. But there is a need to allow residents to lead a normal life. Settlers are not the enemy of the nation and are not the enemy of peace _ they are our brothers and sisters," he said.

Netanyahu also said the Palestinians must recognize Israel as a Jewish state. The Palestinians have refused to do so, fearing it would amount to giving up the rights of millions of refugees and their descendants and be discriminatory to Israel's own Arab minority.

Erekat said Netanyahu's plan was unacceptable since it effectively imposes a solution on the core issues of the conflict.

"Netanyahu's speech closed the door to permanent status negotiations," he said. "We ask the world not to be fooled by his use of the term Palestinian state because he qualified it. He declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel, said refugees would not be negotiated and that settlements would remain."

Although the Palestinians have agreed to demilitarization under past peace proposals, Erekat rejected it, saying it would cement Israeli rule over them.

Nabil Abu Rdeneh, another Palestinian official, called on the U.S. to challenge Netanyahu "to prevent more deterioration in the region."

"What he has said today is not enough to start a serious peace process," he added.

In Gaza, Hamas spokesman Sami Abu Zuhri called the speech "racist" and called on Arab nations "form stronger opposition" toward Israel. Hamas ideology does not recognize a Jewish state in an Islamic Middle East and has sent dozens of suicide bombers into Israel.

Netanyahu also came under criticism from within his own government _ a coalition of religious and nationalistic parties that oppose Palestinian independence.

Zevulun Orlev, a member of the Jewish Home Party, which represents Jewish settlers and other hard-liners, said Netanyahu's speech violated agreements struck when the government was formed. "I think the coalition needs to hold a serious discussion to see where this is headed," he told Israel Radio.

Israeli media speculated that Netanyahu might turn to the centrist Kadima Party, which heads the parliamentary opposition, to shore up his government if the coalition falls apart.

Kadima, the largest party in parliament, denied a report that there were secret talks with Netanyahu over the matter ahead of the speech.

Israel's ceremonial president, Nobel peace laureate Shimon Peres, called the speech "real and brave."

Netanyahu Peace Speech: Israeli Prime Minister Appeals To Arab Leaders For Peace
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I have to admit i am rather impressed.. but obviously he still didn't talk about the Settlement expansions in a more detailed manner as i believe that is a serious issue. The Palestinians must look at this speech and take serious diplomatic actions as they should understand by now that all the major cards are on Israel's table. If Hamas is serious about Palestine and his people he needs to take a more centrist approach than be a hardline nationalist himself
 
Israeli society seems to have a long way to go before we see and end to wars there. Can a Palestinian state exist with Israeli colonies in various locations - Settlers, WTF? What century is this? What kind of an idea is this? Palestine in the the Americas or Afrika? for genuine peace Israeli soceity will have to confront itself on these issues.
 
Having a Palestinian state is the path to peace?? That's like dividing a pond into two halves, one half for the alligators and one half designated for labrador retrievers. You know what will happen? The dog owners will read the signs and keep their dogs on the designated side, while the alligators will ignore the signs and come over for a canine dinner.
 
I don't find his speech impressive or helpful at all. It is typical Likud doubletalk. No "pre-conditions" he says, BUT the "Palestinian" state is not allowed to have weapons or an independent foreign policy. All of "Judea and Samara" belongs to the Jews because God gave it to them 60 centuries ago. However, unfortunately, there are a lot of non-Jews living there, and we don't want to give them full citizenship and equality, so, we will acquiesce in a hodgepodge of disconnected Arab ghettos, if that's what the Americans are going to make us do. Netanyahu is no statesman. The US administration should make him order and enforce Israel's obligations under the "ME Roadmap" to eliminate all post-2001 settlements outright and to freeze all others including NO "natural growth.
 
I don't think the speech should be taken so negatively. Every negotiation is a set of gives and takes, with possibility of creating/sharing things of mutual value.

Netanyahu's previous position was to 1) Not accept a two state solution and 2) have recognition of Israel as a Jewish state as a precondition.
The Arab position was that this would mean that there would be no talks.

What this speech did is to drop both conditions. He says that two states are possible and that the talks would be without preconditions. This will allow talks to go start.

About settlements, status of Jerusalem and recognition of a Jewish state as a mandatory condition for the final settlement - these issues are still up for negotiation as I see it. This speech spells out the order of importance each of the issues have for him/Israel. Once the talk starts, I would see Palestinians/Arabs gaining some of them while losing others.That is a fairly positive pre-negotiation speech.

The reply from Palestine was also pretty nice (if you ignore the hard edges meant for public consumption). They said that this speech took away many items of negotiation off the table, leaving them nothing to talk about. They clearly are saying that they have no room to negotiate, but nevertheless want to start talks in good faith. I would expect some clarifications from Israel saying which issues have room to give- or possibly that could be pushed off to secret talks.
 
I don't find his speech impressive or helpful at all. It is typical Likud doubletalk. No "pre-conditions" he says, BUT the "Palestinian" state is not allowed to have weapons or an independent foreign policy. All of "Judea and Samara" belongs to the Jews because God gave it to them 60 centuries ago. However, unfortunately, there are a lot of non-Jews living there, and we don't want to give them full citizenship and equality, so, we will acquiesce in a hodgepodge of disconnected Arab ghettos, if that's what the Americans are going to make us do. Netanyahu is no statesman. The US administration should make him order and enforce Israel's obligations under the "ME Roadmap" to eliminate all post-2001 settlements outright and to freeze all others including NO "natural growth.

Ever bought a second hand car ? You go to the dealer and he will say the car costs 10,000 dollars. You think the car is worth 5,000 and you want the car. If you walk away, the deal is off and you'll never get the car. Instead you offer 2,000 dollars. This goes on until the price settles at some number around 5,000 dollars.

I see exactly that. There was a preliminary deal the "ME roadmap". Israel thinks the rocket attacks broke the deal while Arabs think the settlements broke it. I see them as counteroffers on the table.

Similarly there is the return of Palestinians as one side of the issue while recognition of Jewish state as its natural counter offer.

If you get worked up over this and take an emotional view, this will never get solved. The beauty is that the Palestinians are as good negotiators as Israel is and they both seem to be negotiating unemotionally and in public view (even as the whole thing looks like a mudslinging match or a fight when they play to the home crowd).

Hint: If you are ever in a real life negotiation, stop the personal attacks. They break trust and even when the deal is complete makes the other person feel like a loser. If you want repeat business (Palestinians and Israelis have to live side by side, so it is repeat business) you have to give the other guy something he feels will be happy about. Blaming Netanyahu and giving credit to Clinton or Saudi Arabia for peace will only make him unlikely to negotiate.
 
I don't find his speech impressive or helpful at all. It is typical Likud doubletalk. No "pre-conditions" he says, BUT the "Palestinian" state is not allowed to have weapons or an independent foreign policy. All of "Judea and Samara" belongs to the Jews because God gave it to them 60 centuries ago. However, unfortunately, there are a lot of non-Jews living there, and we don't want to give them full citizenship and equality, so, we will acquiesce in a hodgepodge of disconnected Arab ghettos, if that's what the Americans are going to make us do. Netanyahu is no statesman. The US administration should make him order and enforce Israel's obligations under the "ME Roadmap" to eliminate all post-2001 settlements outright and to freeze all others including NO "natural growth.

What you failed to understand is that this is coming from a guy who is a Staunch hard line nationalist who all his life has opposed the two state solution. If you look carefully he has clearly mentioned that the two state solution IS possible and each country has free citizens with a free national anthem. Now of course there is no argument here that the balance is still in favor of the Israeli's when they say that Palestine will not have a military but you have to understand that the Harsh reality is that Israel is in a position to dictate the terms and conditions where as Palestinians are not, of course sacrifices are needed on both sides especially from Israeli's starting with Halting the settlement expansion and respecting Palestinian land, airspace and resources.

Either you sit down on the table and further dictate the terms necessary that both parties will agree to OR you can continue with the nonsense violence that will serve no purpose what so ever and only fuel countless more deaths. Recognition of Israel is the first step that Palestine needs to do asap if it wants to live anything close to a 'normal' life... Israel will simply not go away and would refuse to go back to the 1967 pre border conditions and that's another harsh reality the Palestinians would have to live with considering how lopsided the balance of power is...that is a simple condition that has to be met if you want stability and peace in this region its as simple as that..Lets be realistic here and think for a second and look at what both parties can do to STOP the violence and live peacefully..

If Israel does recognize Palestine than it will have to completely withdraw all troops and respect Palestinian airspace, land, people, remove their small colonies etc... and people like Hamas need to stop bullshitting and for once start caring about the conditions that the Palestinians are living in.

These are still positive developments and if this issue isn't resolved under Obama's Administration i don't see this problem being resolved for the next 10 or years
 
This so call peace plan is bull it more like a little freedom in prison camp !! shame on this plan it suks ..... come with something more promising for both sides atleast something solid for these people .
 
Don't be fooled, how easily people are fooled by Zionist.

Excuse me, why do you blind fully trust people's words, actions speak louder than words. PM. Netanyahu is an extremist hardliner from the right-wing and fascist like Likud Party.

One of the major campaign promises he ran on was he would never support or recognize a Palestinian state, or the "two-state solution". That promise is what got the man elected by large margins.


What Netanyahu is really doing is trying to get on the good side of the Arab leaders to help resist against Israel's true enemy Iran.

This speech is a skillful diplomatic endeavor to trick the Arabs into thinking Israel will be friendly to them, all while undermining Iran. What they are trying to do is play the Arab's off against Iran, this is why his speech was so sweet tasting to the Arab ears. He has never been so nice before, why do you think he is being so nice now and offering incentives to the Arabs...


It is a damn trick and you people are the victims and suckers of the great master game of Zion.


MashAllah I know better.


We live in a time were leaders and governments say one thing but do another..

Netanyahu is continuing Ariel Sharon's policies. You must understand the two come from the same ideological branch and share the same ambitions.


By the way any news of the death of Ariel Sharon last I heard he had cancer or heart problems...I guess the Zionist media has control over not releasing this news because the world would then be aware of the death of a Zionist hero...Amazing, their capability to control.
 
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wtf and Durran3,

I know all about the past history of Mr. Netanyahu and about buying a new car. At my age (63) I have bought lots of new cars. I wouldn't buy one from Mr. Netanyahu, though. Why? Because I don't trust him. IMHO, he is an opportunist who only cares about acquiring political power. The Obama administration backed him into a corner. That's good. But time will tell if Obama and the Democrats have the stomach to keep him there long enough for some progress to be made towards a peace agreement. Me, I think Mr. Netanyahu will slip out of the corner with doublespeak and begin linking peace talks to the US doing something about Iran's nuke program. In this, he and Ahmedinejad are buddies, neither wants a two state solution. Of course they have different one state solutions in mind. They will both feed off each other, you wait and see. Netanyahu should have said he would stop all settlement construction, then I would have been impressed. What he did say was merely acknowledging what he had to say to keep his foot in the White House door.
 
Having a Palestinian state is the path to peace?? That's like dividing a pond into two halves, one half for the alligators and one half designated for labrador retrievers. You know what will happen? The dog owners will read the signs and keep their dogs on the designated side, while the alligators will ignore the signs and come over for a canine dinner.

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I don't know if that is a fair thing to say about this situation - Palestine was always about 2 states and since Israel will not absorb the Palestinian population because it will alter it's "Jewish" character, seems to me, we have little option but to 2 state solution.
 
wtf and Durran3,

I know all about the past history of Mr. Netanyahu and about buying a new car. At my age (63) I have bought lots of new cars. I wouldn't buy one from Mr. Netanyahu, though. Why? Because I don't trust him. IMHO, he is an opportunist who only cares about acquiring political power. The Obama administration backed him into a corner. That's good. But time will tell if Obama and the Democrats have the stomach to keep him there long enough for some progress to be made towards a peace agreement. Me, I think Mr. Netanyahu will slip out of the corner with doublespeak and begin linking peace talks to the US doing something about Iran's nuke program. In this, he and Ahmedinejad are buddies, neither wants a two state solution. Of course they have different one state solutions in mind. They will both feed off each other, you wait and see. Netanyahu should have said he would stop all settlement construction, then I would have been impressed. What he did say was merely acknowledging what he had to say to keep his foot in the White House door.

Well in this case there is only one car to be brought - Palestine. And the alternative to not talking to Netanyahu is to wait another 5 years for another election.

I can't see what's so wrong with Netanyahu's background though. The closest parallel I see to him is Musharraf. Both started in the Army and had one track minds until they came to power (Musharraf on Kashmir and Netanyahu on Palestine). Musharraf had his Kargil and Netanyahu entered the temple mount and messed up peace talks. After they came to power they both acted extremely pragmatically, changing their bargaining positions according to the level of bargaining power they had. India could not have not talked to Musharraf and Palestinians cannot avoid talking to Netanyahu.

Anyway, irrespective of how much you hate Israel or Netanyahu, the fact that they changed their bargaining position in PLO's favour is still positive.
 
Anyway, irrespective of how much you hate Israel or Netanyahu, the fact that they changed their bargaining position in PLO's favour is still positive.

I don't hate Israel or Netanyahu. That is an unfair characterization of what I have said. What I do believe is that Israel, especially when led by Likud, has not been honest in its dealings with the US and the Palestinians with respect to a two-state solution. I think the constant building of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and the terribly unfair constraints on Palestinian home and commercial construction everywhere have had only one purpose, to attempt a one-state solution, a one Jewish State, in both pre-1967 and post-1967 Israeli held territories. I think the ONLY reason that this is being re-thought by Likud and its allies is the demographic pressure of non-Jewish populations in both old Israel and in the captured territories.
 
I don't hate Israel or Netanyahu. That is an unfair characterization of what I have said. What I do believe is that Israel, especially when led by Likud, has not been honest in its dealings with the US and the Palestinians with respect to a two-state solution. I think the constant building of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and the terribly unfair constraints on Palestinian home and commercial construction everywhere have had only one purpose, to attempt a one-state solution, a one Jewish State, in both pre-1967 and post-1967 Israeli held territories. I think the ONLY reason that this is being re-thought by Likud and its allies is the demographic pressure of non-Jewish populations in both old Israel and in the captured territories.

As I see it, Netanyahu started on the center right (He had to, coming from the Army). Then the extreme right started settling more and more into Palestinian territories, playing a game of brinkmanship both in Israel and on the larger world stage. Netanyahu at some point did clear some of them out, but was pretty careful to make sure he did not lose power because of it. I don't think he thought of the whole thing as a moral issue, but one of pragmatism (at least that's the sense i got from reading his autobiography)

Anyway, now that the extreme right are no longer big in politics, Netanyahu finds himself representing right wing views. In local politics, I think we'll see him slowly move leftwards until he gets back to the centrist right position again.

BTW, I was not intending to saying that you hate Israel/Netanyahu. The term I should have used is mistrust.
 
I think the constant building of Israeli settlements in the West Bank and the terribly unfair constraints on Palestinian home and commercial construction everywhere have had only one purpose, to attempt a one-state solution, a one Jewish State, in both pre-1967 and post-1967 Israeli held territories. I think the ONLY reason that this is being re-thought by Likud and its allies is the demographic pressure of non-Jewish populations in both old Israel and in the captured territories.

Ground realities are changing and you can't expect the Israeli's to maintain their consistent stance on a one state solution. Yes their is demographic pressure of non Jewish populations and its only in Israel's interest to accept the Two State solution and let the Palestinians get back to their normal lives, but you have to remember something... The Government of Israel has actually stopped settlement expansions its the Jewish people who keep on building them and expanding. There have been numerous occasions where the Jewish people who were expanding had to literally fight with the IDF.

Listen to what Tizpi Livni has clearly said...Watch from the 6th minute please


She was willing to use Armed Forces and the IDF to remove the Settlers who keep insisting on expanding further and that's one of the reason she lost the election as well. Its not so much the Government of Israel as it is the stubborn people though of course that is debatable..I see Netanyahu has finally realized that this is something that needs to be looked at from a rather centrist approach than simply being ignorant of whats really happening.
 
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