My Organic food and less red meat thread....

[Hamartia Antidote]

Ah...yes...I am one of those "dopey money wasting" organic food eaters!
Not 100% but I do try my best.

So this is a thread about trying to eat food that has less of a chance of killing you...mostly from unwanted pesticide/herbicide/chemical intake. However I am adding the recent "red meat is a no-no" World Health Organization cancer scare into the mix as well. I'm not anti-Genetically Modified yet...as long as they don't spray it with anything.

A caveat to this is I am a big milk drinker...and since there is some suspicion that may not be a good idea..I will ignore it for now.

I started gradually switching to organic food in about the early to mid 1990's and back then it was super pricey and most of the fresh vegetables looked like crap (bruised, aged, mushy, obvious bug eaten leaves, etc). I think I actually switched to packaged items first (milk, bread, jellies, etc) since I couldn't bring myself to eat such crappy looking vegetables.

There was only one food market chain that sold organic food and they had every paranoid person at their high-priced mercy. Luckily they got swallowed up by a national organic food chain (Whole Foods) and the quality/selection of food got much better...the prices...well...I don't think they changed.

About 10 to 15 years ago organic food became popular enough that all supermarkets started carrying at least some kind of selection of them (however small) and this helped push the prices to more reasonable levels. So instead of 5 times the price it is now only about double the price.

Some of things on my current weekly paranoia organic shopping list consists of:
Kale
Spinach
Carrots
Tomatoes
Swisschard
Celery
Broccoli
Radicchio
Strawberries
Raspberries
bananas
bread

peach/mango/orange juice
(I've fallen back to regular milk)

As for meat..
Duck (6lb)
Chicken (6lb)
Salmon (and various other seafood)
Turkey
Pork Ribs (yes, I'll be ditching this soon)

Removed from my diet
Beef (occasionally I'll buy a burger)
Lamb/Goat

 

[dadeechi]

Ah...yes...I am one of those "dopey money wasting" organic food eaters!
Not 100% but I do try my best.

So this is a thread about trying to eat food that has less of a chance of killing you...mostly from unwanted pesticide/herbicide/chemical intake. However I am adding the recent "red meat is a non-no" World Health Organization cancer scare into the mix as well. I'm not anti-Genetically Modified yet...as long as they don't spray it with anything.

A caveat to this is I am a big milk drinker...and since there is some suspicion that may not be a good idea..I will ignore it for now.

I started gradually switching to organic food in about the early to mid 1990's and back then it was super pricey and most of the fresh vegetables looked like crap (bruised, aged, mushy, obvious bug eaten leaves, etc). I think t actually switched to packaged items first (milk, bread, jellies, etc) since I couldn't bring myself to eat such crappy looking vegetables.

There was only one food market chain that sold organic food and they had every paranoid person at their high-priced mercy. Luckily they got swallowed up by a national organic food chain (Whole Foods) and the quality/selection of food got much better...the prices...well...I don't think they changed.

About 10 to 15 years ago organic food became popular enough that all supermarkets started carrying at least some kind of selection of them (however small) and this helped push the prices to more reasonable levels. So instead of 5 times the price it is now only about double the price.

Some of things on my current weekly paranoia organic shopping list consists of:
Kale
Spinach
Carrots
Tomatoes
Swisschard
Celery
Broccoli
Radicchio
Strawberries
Raspberries
bananas
bread

peach/mango/orange juice
(I've fallen back to regular milk)

Milk is the most adulterated product. You might as well totally skip the regular ones if you cannot afford the organic ones.

Couple of key items that you may be missing in your list

1) Potatoes

2) Cauliflowers

3) Apples

Non Organic Peaches & Plums are as bad as Berries,

 

[Desertfalcon]

I live in the state of Idaho, in farm and forest country. I eat lots of fresh vegetables I get from friends with big gardens or from farmer's markets. We have three of them nearby during the warm season. I buy chicken but most of the meat I eat is wild game and fish I get myself as I love to hunt and fish. I usually get a deer a year and maybe a pronghorn antelope as well as birds and rabbits. I still have some moose leftover from a past hunt. I live on the Snake River so lots of fresh trout.

I used to eat anything when I was younger...then I had heart failure. No more. Only the healthy stuff now. I don't even eat cheeseburgers except maybe once or twice a year.

 

[ghazi52]

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I live in the state of Idaho, in farm and forest country. I eat lots of fresh vegetables I get from friends with big gardens or from farmer's markets. We have three of them nearby during the warm season. I buy chicken but most of the meat I eat is wild game and fish I get myself as I love to hunt and fish. I usually get a deer a year and maybe a pronghorn antelope as well as birds and rabbits. I still have some moose leftover from a past hunt. I live on the Snake River so lots of fresh trout.

I used to eat anything when I was younger...then I had heart failure. No more. Only the healthy stuff now. I don't even eat cheeseburgers except maybe once or twice a year.

So I have a garden in my back yard. The last few years I have been concentrating on growing lots of green leafy vegetables like Kale, Spinach, and Swisschard since these are typically something you would eat a larger average serving than something else (like a little dish of spinach is made up of LOTS of spinach leaves).

I was never concerned much about pesticides/herbicides until the parents of some of the kids I grew up with in my childhood neighborhood starting getting cancer. The odd thing was I thought for sure they would live to be 100 since every single one of them had huge gardens. They NEVER ate processed foods. Their mothers cooked everything "from scratch". Meanwhile the rest of us had moms who would pop things out of a Green Giant/Del Monte can and heat it up. Not exactly healthy...but the canned people fared better than the fresh vegetable loving people...odd...

Well some of us also had gardens...but very simplistic...we grew tomatoes/cucumbers/beans and that was pretty much it. But one thing we never did was spray it with anything...we simply didn't know to spray anyway. But those "healthy" neighbors did...they wanted their food perfect. Their dishes of course had to look/taste like masterpieces. If they couldn't get it out of their garden they went straight to a vegetable store/stall that did. Back then it was definitely not organic...and they bought green leafy vegetables by the bagful. Cooked it up and served it in big bowls.


So my deduction was that the vegetables you buy in the Produce department are far more saturated with chemicals than the stuff in a can (or frozen). Since they are open for inspection they have to be in good shape or most people won't buy them. An example would be my original aversion to crappy organic vegetables or my neighbors looking for the perfect bunch of leafy vegetables for their exquisite meals. The stuff in a can is less so since you don't really care about appearances.

In fact an older neighbor just died a few days ago. He was 94. I bet he ate most of his meals out of a can.

Milk is the most adulterated product. You might as well totally skip the regular ones if you cannot afford the organic ones.

Couple of key items that you may be missing in your list

1) Potatoes

2) Cauliflowers

3) Apples

Non Organic Peaches & Plums are as bad as Berries,

Yep, I only buy organic apples!

I was drinking organic milk up until about 5 years ago. I'll think about it.
I'm not a big potato eater since that was a staple food my mom prepared..and I feel I have already had my lifetime share.
Not a Cauliflower fan.

 

[VCheng]

So this is a thread about trying to eat food that has less of a chance of killing you...mostly from unwanted pesticide/herbicide/chemical intake. However I am adding the recent "red meat is a no-no" World Health Organization cancer scare into the mix as well. I'm not anti-Genetically Modified yet...as long as they don't spray it with anything.

I prefer this totally organic grass-based salad. See how the color changes after conversion?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I prefer this totally organic grass-based salad. See how the color changes after conversion?

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Hey I've had plenty of things like that in the past.

So I found out that 94ish year old ate oatmeal for breakfast every day.

Hmmm...
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/bowl-oatmeal-day-key-longer-life-major-study/story?id=28027624

add Oatmeal to your diet folks!

 

[livingdead]

Hey I've had plenty of things like that in the past.

So I found out that 94ish year old ate oatmeal for breakfast every day.

So add Oatmeal to your diet folks!

is it not the one that tastes like saw dust...

 

[VCheng]

Hey I've had plenty of things like that in the past.

So I found out that 94ish year old ate oatmeal for breakfast every day.

Hmmm...
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/bowl-oatmeal-day-key-longer-life-major-study/story?id=28027624

add Oatmeal to your diet folks!

Oatmeal is good. For the cow.

 

[NP-complete]

Why go through so much trouble. Keep some cyanide in the cupboard. Pop one when the going gets tough.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

is it not the one that tastes like saw dust...

It sure does! That's why more people don't easily live to their 90's.

Oatmeal is good. For the cow.

Or horse

 

[livingdead]

It sure does! That's why more people don't easily live to their 90's.

I heard 90s is not as fun as it is made out to be, viagra or not.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Why go through so much trouble. Keep some cyanide in the cupboard. Pop one when the going gets tough.

This woman at work said she's going to avoid oatmeal and stick with the unhealthy stuff so she doesn't end up living to 90.

 

[NP-complete]

This woman at work said she's going to avoid oatmeal and stick with the unhealthy stuff so she doesn't end up living to 90.

What good can some extra years do. More of the same stuff.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Ah...don't forget about the kiddies!.

My wife has been asked to mail some organic baby food to her friends overseas.

I don't know how many companies have jumped onto the organic baby food bandwagon but there has to be at least 10 large ones.

You can buy it in plastic containers, glass jars, little pouches...