Multi-role combat aircraft not fit for BrahMos

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Bangalore, August 25
The high-profile “medium multi-role combat aircraft” (MMRCA), 126 of which are being purchased by the IAF at a mind-boggling price tag of Rs 42,000 crore, has been ruled out for integration with the supersonic BrahMos missile.

BrahMos Aerospace, the Indo-Russian joint venture, has successfully developed the low-altitude supersonic BrahMos cruise missile that is quicker than any other missile in the world. Having a speed of 2.8 mach, BrahMos, with a range of 290 km, is four times faster than American Tomahawk cruise missile, widely used by the USA during its offensive against Iraq.

BrahMos Aerospace is now working to develop a hypersonic missile having a speed of over 6 mach. Addressing a press conference on the sidelines of the Space Expo here today, A Sivathanu Pillai, CEO and MD of BrahMos Aerospace, said the new hypersonic missile would be ready in another five years. The warhead of the hypersonic missile would be relatively smaller, he said and added that because of its speed, the hypersonic missile would hit the target with a devastating impact nevertheless.

Pillai said following the induction of the supersonic BrahMos in the Army and the Navy, they were now working to develop a supersonic missile for the IAF. He said the missile would be integrated with the Russian Sukhoi 30 aircraft. Pillai said $50 million, split between the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) and its Russian partner on a 50.5 and 49.5 per cent basis, had been allocated for developing the air force version of the missile to be used for air-to-ground attacks

Modifications in the Sukhoi aircraft for integrating the missile would be carried out by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) at its facility at Nashik, Pillai said. Blueprint for the changes would be drawn up by the Sukhoi design bureau in Russia, Pillai said. The flight-test of the air force variant of the missile would take place in 2012, he added.

On the issue of integrating the missile with the MMRCA, which the IAF was in the process of acquiring, Pillai said medium aircraft were not being considered for firing the missile. “Sukhoi, being a big aircraft, is ideal for BrahMos,” he said.

 

[Donatello]

Oooops.

Anyway, i guess they can purchase some sort of limited range cruise missile. France or Euro Group are in i guess....so i am sure they can sell <300km cruise missile to India.

 

[Desi Sher]

Oooops.

Anyway, i guess they can purchase some sort of limited range cruise missile. France or Euro Group are in i guess....so i am sure they can sell <300km cruise missile to India.

well Buddy Nirbhay is In development, Or Harpoon II would come in handy , But for Brahmos Su 30 MKI are the best Platform

 

[faithfulguy]

"Having a speed of 2.8 mach, BrahMos, with a range of 290 km, is four times faster than American Tomahawk cruise missile, widely used by the USA during its offensive against Iraq."

How come people would only talk about speed when its to their advantage and disregard distance and terrain hugging ability. The comparason is totally misleading as anyone would rather have Tomahawk missile vs Brahmos, despite the speed difference. Tomahawk has much greater range. But when we look at the comparason, we are actually compare steak to ground beef. Tomahawk is the best steak out there and Brahmos claim to be the best ground beef out there. tomahauk is a strategic weapon while Brahmos is a tactical weapon.

 

[Chanakyaa]

"Having a speed of 2.8 mach, BrahMos, with a range of 290 km, is four times faster than American Tomahawk cruise missile, widely used by the USA during its offensive against Iraq."

How come people would only talk about speed when its to their advantage and disregard distance and terrain hugging ability. The comparason is totally misleading as anyone would rather have Tomahawk missile vs Brahmos, despite the speed difference. Tomahawk has much greater range. But when we look at the comparason, we are actually compare steak to ground beef. Tomahawk is the best steak out there and Brahmos claim to be the best ground beef out there. tomahauk is a strategic weapon while Brahmos is a tactical weapon.

You are Probably Totally unaware of The Differece of the Purpose of Cruize Missiles if u can go at length to Describe it as a STRATEGIC Weapon.

Strategic nuclear weapons are used primarily as part of a doctrine of deterrence by threatening large targets, such as cities. These usually have very large explosive yield.

Weapons meant for use in limited military maneuvers, such as destroying specific military, communications, or infrastructure targets, are known as tactical nuclear weapons, and are usually of much smaller yields.

Now a Cruize Missile is NOT meant to take on an ENTIRE City OR a 1 Megaton Warhead !

SO BOTH Brahmos and Tomahawk are TACTICAL WEAPONS, Regardless of their respective Ranges.


Now, According to You Range is the Factor Making Tomahawk Better.

Firstly India Already Has, The Nirbhay Cruize Missile with the Similar Range/Speed as Tomahawk But This Does NOT mean its at Par with Brahmos. SO WE DO HAVE THE "STEAK" Advantage TOO. !

When Taking on Tactical Installations, Generally Protected by God SAMs and Anti-Aircraft Systems, Survival is a crucial factor.

Do Consider, Brahmos is Also Air Launced So Range is Now No Issue.

But at 4 Times the Speed of Tomahawk, NO CURRENT ACTIVE TECHNOLOGY can Intercept a Mach 2.8 Missile.

So If Brahmos is Fired on You.. You are a a History.

 

[faithfulguy]

But at 4 Times the Speed of Tomahawk, NO CURRENT ACTIVE TECHNOLOGY can Intercept a Mach 2.8 Missile.

So If Brahmos is Fired on You.. You are a a History.[/COLOR][/B]

Of course the US has weapons that can stop Brahmos, and its also for export. So do not underestimate the US ability.

In any case, India should be more friendly with the US instead of relying on Russia for weaponry. How India is not closer to US shows the inability of the Indian politician to make decisive choices.

 

[Desi Sher]

Of course the US has weapons that can stop Brahmos, and its also for export. So do not underestimate the US ability.

In any case, India should be more friendly with the US instead of relying on Russia for weaponry. How India is not closer to US shows the inability of the Indian politician to make decisive choices.

What are those Weapons That USA has which Could Stop the BRAHMOS???? And About Our Alliance with Russia,its Non of Your Business, Just know that We are not Interested In an alliance with USA

 

[bakistan zindabad]

Do Consider, Brahmos is Also Air Launced So Range is Now No Issue.

Thats the final argumnet my friend. Brahmos is the worlds best fire and forget Supersonic Cruise Missile.

After friring the missile, the strategic forces command can go for a cup of tea or play poker on the internet without even having to wonder what happened next. It is certainly sure that the target, static of manouvering will be destroyed nevertheless.

Brahmos= Death warrant and yes, range is not an issue anymore.

 

[bakistan zindabad]

How India is not closer to US shows the inability of the Indian politician to make decisive choices.

For your information, I think its clear that decision has already been made. (Not to rely on US)

 

[gogbot]

Of course the US has weapons that can stop Brahmos, and its also for export. So do not underestimate the US ability.

In any case, India should be more friendly with the US instead of relying on Russia for weaponry. How India is not closer to US shows the inability of the Indian politician to make decisive choices.

Or is could signify an American failure to make another pawn out of India.

Just putting it out there.
India and Russia have more common interests and less conflicting interests.
As opposed to the US - India relations.

 

[Leviza]

another fail for india .... keep counting...

 

[Desi Sher]

another fail for india .... keep counting...

Yes, Sour grapes

 

[Trac]

another fail for india .... keep counting...

If our failuare is batter than your success so who need success ??

Brahmos is fail ??
When enemeis think about brahmos so .... in pants

 

[footmarks]

another fail for india .... keep counting...

Another jerk on PDF ..... keep counting

 

[gogbot]

Carrying Brhamos was never a Requirement
The Search was for Medium Multi-Role aircraft, This by definition implies the existence of a Heavy class , which is filled by the SU-30MKI , which can carry the Brahmos.

No one can lift Bhramos, but Rafale can carry Scalp which have almost the range of Bhramos, It use Stealth deign where Bhramos use speed..
Scalp = 250km
Bhramos = 300km

Storm Shadow is an air-launched cruise missile, manufactured by MBDA and used by France, Italy, the United Kingdom and Greece. Storm Shadow is the British name for the weapon; in French service it is called SCALP EG (Emploi G&#233;n&#233;ral, meaning General Purpose)

It's already a given , when you buy the aircraft , you buy the weapons that go with it. Weapon integration our your own weapons comes latter. if at all.

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