What's new

L-ATV Could Become the New Humvee

Abingdonboy

ELITE MEMBER
Joined
Jun 4, 2010
Messages
29,597
Reaction score
46
Country
India
Location
United Kingdom
L_ATV_Could_Become_the_New_Humvee_01.jpg


America’s wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have had other positive results besides killing scores of terrorists and making the world a relatively safer place. They taught the Army a great deal about joint operations, improved their guerrilla tactics, and most importantly, they resulted in huge advances in the machinery the military uses.

Prior to the war on terror, the U.S. Army relied heavily on their AM General Hummers, or Humvees, in combat operations. These handsome 4x4s with their awesome off-load capabilities were cheap and practical, and they got the job done. That was until the Army came across new problems like Improvised Explosive Devices (IED) and Rocket-Propelled Grenades (RPG). The Humvee offers woeful protection against these weapons. To counter it, they did fit the Humvee with heavy armour, but all that did was slow the vehicle down, making it an easier target for the insurgents.

In the years after the Humvee proved it is dangerously outdated for modern warfare, the U.S. and British military experimented with various different armored transport vehicles like the MRAP, most of which were designed primarily to protect the occupants, and therefore ended up being huge, lumbering fortresses on wheels – not practical for missions requiring speed and maneuverability. But now, finally, it seems the Department of Defense has found the perfect compromise in form of the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV).

Proposed by Wisconsin-based Oshkosh Corporation, the Light Combat Tactical All-Terrain Vehicle is roughly the same size as the Humvee, but it’s lighter and more agile, and it is more reliable. Most importantly, Oshkosh has managed to offer the same level of protection as a MRAP in the L-ATV by shrinking down the armor and making it light, thus maintaining the vehicle’s speed and off-road prowess.

In terms of technology, the L-ATV is like the McLaren P1 of military vehicles. It features computer-controlled independent suspension system that allows for 20 inches of wheel travel, and it can be equipped with a diesel-electric hybrid system with exportable power. The curb weight of one of these vehicles is 14,000 pounds – which goes up to 18K once you load it up with soldiers and gear – which sounds like a lot, but it is in fact half of what an MRAP weighs. That means two of these vehicles can be sling-loaded underneath a helicopter for air transport.

The Joint Light Tactical Vehicle will cost around $550,000 apiece, including delivery, add-on kits, logistics, technical manuals, and interim support. Oshkosh says they can produce up to a 1,000 vehicles a month. Realistically, the JLTVs will become operational in 2018, but Oshkosh is ready to start the production immediately if the need arose. It is, after all, a $9.4 billion contract!


L-ATV%20Could%20Become%20the%20New%20Humvee%20-%2005.jpg




L-ATV%20Could%20Become%20the%20New%20Humvee%20-%2003.jpg





L-ATV Could Become the New Humvee



@sancho @Capt.Popeye @Dillinger @Koovie @Water Car Engineer

It was reported in 2009 that India had signed up to the JLTV project in some way:

India Signs Up For JLTV | DoD Buzz


Any chance that India is actually serious about inducting these vehicles?
 
. .
550 thousand a pop is not economically feasible for Indian Military.
Moreover Tata and Mahindra are already offering vehicles suitable for Light Vehicle needs.Why go for 'phoren' maal.
 
. .
L_ATV_Could_Become_the_New_Humvee_01.jpg


America’s wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have had other positive results besides killing scores of terrorists and making the world a relatively safer place. They taught the Army a great deal about joint operations, improved their guerrilla tactics, and most importantly, they resulted in huge advances in the machinery the military uses.

Prior to the war on terror, the U.S. Army relied heavily on their AM General Hummers, or Humvees, in combat operations. These handsome 4x4s with their awesome off-load capabilities were cheap and practical, and they got the job done. That was until the Army came across new problems like Improvised Explosive Devices (IED) and Rocket-Propelled Grenades (RPG). The Humvee offers woeful protection against these weapons. To counter it, they did fit the Humvee with heavy armour, but all that did was slow the vehicle down, making it an easier target for the insurgents.

In the years after the Humvee proved it is dangerously outdated for modern warfare, the U.S. and British military experimented with various different armored transport vehicles like the MRAP, most of which were designed primarily to protect the occupants, and therefore ended up being huge, lumbering fortresses on wheels – not practical for missions requiring speed and maneuverability. But now, finally, it seems the Department of Defense has found the perfect compromise in form of the Joint Light Tactical Vehicle (JLTV).

Proposed by Wisconsin-based Oshkosh Corporation, the Light Combat Tactical All-Terrain Vehicle is roughly the same size as the Humvee, but it’s lighter and more agile, and it is more reliable. Most importantly, Oshkosh has managed to offer the same level of protection as a MRAP in the L-ATV by shrinking down the armor and making it light, thus maintaining the vehicle’s speed and off-road prowess.

In terms of technology, the L-ATV is like the McLaren P1 of military vehicles. It features computer-controlled independent suspension system that allows for 20 inches of wheel travel, and it can be equipped with a diesel-electric hybrid system with exportable power. The curb weight of one of these vehicles is 14,000 pounds – which goes up to 18K once you load it up with soldiers and gear – which sounds like a lot, but it is in fact half of what an MRAP weighs. That means two of these vehicles can be sling-loaded underneath a helicopter for air transport.

The Joint Light Tactical Vehicle will cost around $550,000 apiece, including delivery, add-on kits, logistics, technical manuals, and interim support. Oshkosh says they can produce up to a 1,000 vehicles a month. Realistically, the JLTVs will become operational in 2018, but Oshkosh is ready to start the production immediately if the need arose. It is, after all, a $9.4 billion contract!


L-ATV%20Could%20Become%20the%20New%20Humvee%20-%2005.jpg




L-ATV%20Could%20Become%20the%20New%20Humvee%20-%2003.jpg





L-ATV Could Become the New Humvee



@sancho @Capt.Popeye @Dillinger @Koovie @Water Car Engineer

It was reported in 2009 that India had signed up to the JLTV project in some way:

India Signs Up For JLTV | DoD Buzz


Any chance that India is actually serious about inducting these vehicles?


It will be a serious shame if we go for foreign vehicles in this category
 
.
@sancho @Capt.Popeye @Dillinger @Koovie @Water Car Engineer

It was reported in 2009 that India had signed up to the JLTV project in some way:

India Signs Up For JLTV | DoD Buzz


Any chance that India is actually serious about inducting these vehicles?

I wonder if that will be so at the present juncture.........may be in the future.
My guess is that participation in the development program is to spin-off some of the technological inputs into a domestic design and development program to start with. The quoted costs are certainly going to be a dampener at present.
The only other thing that I can think of is: some of the work getting sub-contracted to a manufacturing facility in India to keep costs down. I notice that the financials of Oshkosh Corp. are not showing a healthy trend in recent years, they will certainly like to work on costs.
 
.
I wonder if that will be so at the present juncture.........may be in the future.
My guess is that participation in the development program is to spin-off some of the technological inputs into a domestic design and development program to start with. The quoted costs are certainly going to be a dampener at present.
The only other thing that I can think of is: some of the work getting sub-contracted to a manufacturing facility in India to keep costs down. I notice that the financials of Oshkosh Corp. are not showing a healthy trend in recent years, they will certainly like to work on costs.

This is just one of the 3 options. As per the contract, per vehicle cost should not exceed USD 250,00, but, the Congress committee found it to be round USD 400,000. This is with 50,000 planned for the US Army. And I am yet to see any report after that single news items, that we are involved in it.
 
Last edited:
. .
Back
Top Bottom