Kashmiris want to be part of Pakistan, says politician

[A.Rafay]

Islamabad: A roundtable discussion on the Kashmir issue titled ‘What should be the role of international community in peaceful settlement of Kashmir?’ was organised here.

Sardar Khalid Ibrahim, senior Kashmiri politician and former ambassador Khalid Mehmood were speakers in the roundtable organised by the Muslim Institute. Research associates of the institute as well as other think-tanks participated in the event.

Sardar Khalid Ibrahim on the occasion said that there was an unfortunate trend in the international media of associating the current unrest with militancy or influence from Pakistan. The reality is that the current resistance and pro-freedom campaign is predominantly a civilian and indigenous movement. It is not militants or terrorists but hundreds of ordinary Kashmiris, from all classes and backgrounds, men, women and children who are taking to the streets to make a democratic stance and to raise their voices against an unjust regime.

‘Go India, Go’ is inscribed on the walls of buildings and on road surfaces throughout Srinagar. Children as young as four, stand beside their parents in the streets calling for freedom. He said that we as the Kashmiri people want to be the part of Pakistan. Pakistan should talk with India on an equal basis.

Khalid Mehmood, former ambassador, said that according to the logic of Partition and relevant precedent, Jammu and Kashmir ought to have gone to Pakistan. No princely state, when all was said and done, remained independent, though a few tried. If we take it for granted, then that Kashmir could not have become an independent state, it still seems that Pakistan has the better claim to the territory. The population of the state was overwhelmingly Muslim, economic, geographic, and cultural ties seemed to point towards union with Pakistan.

He said that how a country like India can be the member of the Security Council if the India itself was not abiding by the resolutions of the same body. He said that terrorism and genuine freedom movements should not be considered and treaded similarly.

Kashmiris want to be part of Pakistan, says politician - thenews.com.pk

 

[KRAIT]

Considering condition of Pakistan, I don't think they want to.

And entire world knows where terrorists are trained and sent to Kashmir.

 

[A.Rafay]

Considering condition of Pakistan, I don't think they want to.

And entire world knows where terrorists are trained and sent to Kashmir.

Entire world? You consider india (excluding Kashmir) The entire world? RSS and BJP trained and supported terrorists with support from indian Army loot Kashmiris and their Lands and rape their women and harass them! Whatever The Condition of pakistan, Kashmiris are with Pakistan! The relation ship od Kashmiris To pakistanis is of Blood and Same Ethnic and religious values!

 

[A.Rafay]

Come and take it. You aint getting shiiiiit for free.

Moment of Shame for you!

 

[T90TankGuy]

Actually according to polls held last year the Kashmirs people want freedom to rule them self's. (its never going to happen ) but considering Pakistan position today (economic and security) they are not in a position to take care of their own country much less Indian Kashmir.
refute me with facts if you can .

 

[joekrish]

I'm sure most in Kashmir do not want to be a part of Pakistan and even if they are a few they are more than welcome to move to Pakistan.

 

[Vassnti]

Actually according to polls held last year the Kashmirs people want freedom to rule them self's. (its never going to happen ) but considering Pakistan position today (economic and security) they are not in a position to take care of their own country much less Indian Kashmir.
refute me with facts if you can .

They dont want to be part of Pakistan they dont want to be part of India it appears they just want to be part of Kashmir.

Strange i dont hear anyone in politics supporting option three? After all then both sides could claim victory.

Cheer Kasmir is finaly free of the ( insert the other country here ) yoke lets celebrate out great victory.

Could it be that niether side actually gives **** about the people of Kasmir and are happy to keep it as a political foot ball?

 

[Screambowl]

says, a POLITICIAN!! we know what politicians say before elections and after elections.

 

[SQ8]

Actually according to polls held last year the Kashmirs people want freedom to rule them self's. (its never going to happen ) but considering Pakistan position today (economic and security) they are not in a position to take care of their own country much less Indian Kashmir.
refute me with facts if you can .

Actually that is the ground reality. That the Kashmiris are after self-determination and that is still quite a possibility.
However, they are no longer interested in pursuing an armed conflict rather they now wish to enlighten the rest of India about their plight and "win" autonomous governance.

Pakistan is still revered, but as their friends and not as the destination.

 

[KS]

Actually that is the ground reality. That the Kashmiris are after self-determination and that is still quite a possibility.
However, they are no longer interested in pursuing an armed conflict rather they now wish to enlighten the rest of India about their plight and "win" autonomous governance..

Hardly going to happen. The mentality of Kashmir being an integral part of India is so deeply ingrained in the Indian psyche , for good reasons, that even if the Govt (let alone some Kashmiris) tries to do something on that, there would be wide-scale problems.

They dont want to be part of Pakistan they dont want to be part of India it appears they just want to be part of Kashmir.

'They' as in Valley Sunni Muslims.

The Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists or the Shias want to do nothing with Pakistan.

Strange i dont hear anyone in politics supporting option three? After all then both sides could claim victory.

Cheer Kasmir is finaly free of the ( insert the other country here ) yoke lets celebrate out great victory.

How could we claim victory is our position is Kashmir is a part of India ?

 

[Solomon2]

Kashmiris want to be part of Pakistan, says politician

If he had claimed otherwise who here believes he would have been permitted to speak?

 

[Hulk]

Islamabad: A roundtable discussion on the Kashmir issue titled ‘What should be the role of international community in peaceful settlement of Kashmir?’ was organised here.

Sardar Khalid Ibrahim, senior Kashmiri politician and former ambassador Khalid Mehmood were speakers in the roundtable organised by the Muslim Institute. Research associates of the institute as well as other think-tanks participated in the event.

Sardar Khalid Ibrahim on the occasion said that there was an unfortunate trend in the international media of associating the current unrest with militancy or influence from Pakistan. The reality is that the current resistance and pro-freedom campaign is predominantly a civilian and indigenous movement. It is not militants or terrorists but hundreds of ordinary Kashmiris, from all classes and backgrounds, men, women and children who are taking to the streets to make a democratic stance and to raise their voices against an unjust regime.

‘Go India, Go’ is inscribed on the walls of buildings and on road surfaces throughout Srinagar. Children as young as four, stand beside their parents in the streets calling for freedom. He said that we as the Kashmiri people want to be the part of Pakistan. Pakistan should talk with India on an equal basis.

Khalid Mehmood, former ambassador, said that according to the logic of Partition and relevant precedent, Jammu and Kashmir ought to have gone to Pakistan. No princely state, when all was said and done, remained independent, though a few tried. If we take it for granted, then that Kashmir could not have become an independent state, it still seems that Pakistan has the better claim to the territory. The population of the state was overwhelmingly Muslim, economic, geographic, and cultural ties seemed to point towards union with Pakistan.

He said that how a country like India can be the member of the Security Council if the India itself was not abiding by the resolutions of the same body. He said that terrorism and genuine freedom movements should not be considered and treaded similarly.

Kashmiris want to be part of Pakistan, says politician - thenews.com.pk

Spineless politicians who are willing to become puppet of GOP, their opinions does not value one cent buddy. These people are just puppets, they will say whatever for money.

 

[Screambowl]

Moment of Shame for you!

it is called as law enforcement.

meanwhile what the F*** is this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NebMw0cZ_Ws

 

[KRAIT]

Kashmir obsession will bring down Pakistan even more. Go on, destroy your own nation over Kashmir. You are doing favor for India.

 

[jayron]

Pakistani Kashmir has to be freed from Punjabi militants and Chinese occupation.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/27/opinion/27iht-edharrison.html

China's Discreet Hold on Pakistan's Northern Borderlands
By SELIG S. HARRISON

While the world focuses on the flood-ravaged Indus River valley, a quiet geopolitical crisis is unfolding in the Himalayan borderlands of northern Pakistan, where Islamabad is handing over de facto control of the strategic Gilgit-Baltistan region in the northwest corner of disputed Kashmir to China.

The entire ****************** western portion of Kashmir stretching from Gilgit in the north to Azad (Free) Kashmir in the south is closed to the world, in contrast to the media access that India permits in the eastern part, where it is combating a Pakistan-backed insurgency. But reports from a variety of foreign intelligence sources, Pakistani journalists and Pakistani human rights workers reveal two important new developments in Gilgit-Baltistan: a simmering rebellion against Pakistani rule and the influx of an estimated 7,000 to 11,000 soldiers of the People’s Liberation Army.

China wants a grip on the region to assure unfettered road and rail access to the Gulf through Pakistan. It takes 16 to 25 days for Chinese oil tankers to reach the Gulf. When high-speed rail and road links through Gilgit and Baltistan are completed, China will be able to transport cargo from Eastern China to the new Chinese-built Pakistani naval bases at Gwadar, Pasni and Ormara, just east of the Gulf, within 48 hours.

Many of the P.L.A. soldiers entering Gilgit-Baltistan are expected to work on the railroad. Some are extending the Karakoram Highway, built to link China’s Sinkiang Province with Pakistan. Others are working on dams, expressways and other projects.

Mystery surrounds the construction of 22 tunnels in secret locations where Pakistanis are barred. Tunnels would be necessary for a projected gas pipeline from Iran to China that would cross the Himalayas through Gilgit. But they could also be used for missile storage sites.

Until recently, the P.L.A. construction crews lived in temporary encampments and went home after completing their assignments. Now they are building big residential enclaves clearly designed for a long-term presence.

What is happening in the region matters to Washington for two reasons. Coupled with its support for the Taliban, Islamabad’s collusion in facilitating China’s access to the Gulf makes clear that Pakistan is not a U.S. “ally.” Equally important, the nascent revolt in the Gilgit-Baltistan region is a reminder that Kashmiri demands for autonomy on both sides of the cease-fire line would have to be addressed in a settlement.

Media attention has exposed the repression of the insurgency in the Indian-ruled Kashmir Valley. But if reporters could get into the Gilgit-Baltistan region and Azad Kashmir, they would find widespread, brutally-suppressed local movements for democratic rights and regional autonomy.

When the British partitioned South Asia in 1947, the maharajah who ruled Kashmir, including Gilgit and Baltistan, acceded to India. This set off intermittent conflict that ended with Indian control of the Kashmir Valley, the establishment of Pakistan-sponsored Free Kashmir in western Kashmir, and Pakistan’s occupation of Gilgit and Baltistan, where Sunni ****** groups allied with the Pakistan Army have systematically terrorized the local Shiite Muslims.

Gilgit and Baltistan are in effect under military rule. Democratic activists there want a legislature and other institutions without restrictions like the ones imposed on Free Kashmir, where the elected legislature controls only 4 out of 56 subjects covered in the state constitution. The rest are under the jurisdiction of a “Kashmir Council” appointed by the president of Pakistan.

India gives more power to the state government in Srinagar; elections there are widely regarded as fair, and open discussion of demands for autonomy is permitted. But the Pakistan-abetted insurgency in the Kashmir Valley has added to tensions between Indian occupation forces and an assertive population seeking greater of local autonomy.

The United States is uniquely situated to play a moderating role in Kashmir, given its growing economic and military ties with India and Pakistan’s aid dependence on Washington. Such a role should be limited to quiet diplomacy. Washington should press New Delhi to resume autonomy negotiations with Kashmiri separatists. Success would put pressure on Islamabad for comparable concessions in Free Kashmir and Gilgit-Baltistan. In Pakistan, Washington should focus on getting Islamabad to stop aiding the insurgency in the Kashmir Valley and to give New Delhi a formal commitment that it will not annex Gilgit and Baltistan.

Precisely because the Gilgit-Baltistan region is so important to China, the United States, India and Pakistan should work together to make sure that it is not overwhelmed, like Tibet, by the Chinese behemoth.