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Kabul Taliban Commander Seif-Allah Galali speaks.
Interview conducted by Al Jazeera's Ahmad Zeidan broadcast on 4/12/2009
(from soundtrack: original translation by informatron for iraq-war.ru):
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: My first question is, what is the military situation in Kabul, and what are your plans?
Seif Allah Galali: In the name of God, the merciful. Kabul is very important. It is the capital of Afghanistan. In addition, Kabul is a major focus for the international establishment: 42 pagan countries have a presence in the capital of Afghanistan. And everyone in Kabul is concerned about the security of the Capital. Therefore it is evident that it is difficult to carry out resistance operations inside Kabul but, as you have heard, thank God Almighty, we carried out numerous successful attacks inside the city, in collaboration with the outlying regions. Our operations severly destabalised the pagans inside Afghanistan, destabalised their very countries, and their institutions. There are various types of operations that have been carried out: We have engaged in bombing attacks, joint operations, commando attacks, suicide missions, and even open battles with the pagan invaders. We have plenty of examples operating inside the city where it is difficult for anyone to move around with ease. We have attacked NATO Head Quarters, the Foreign Affairs Administration, the Ministry of Interior, and Serina Hotel, and we downed a helicopter near the capital. That is just to give you some examples of our strength. We also conducted an open battle which lasted 10 hours in the area of Massi. Another battle in Uzbin. All these examples point to the strength of our Mujahidin fighters.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: Some weeks ago, the Americans withdrew from Nouristan. What is the situation now? Do you think the Americans shall withdraw away from the villages to towns?
Seif Allah Galali: Everyone heard about what happened in Nouristan. Our Mujahidin carried out a series of successful operations against the Americans, and we have come to learn that when Americans suffer casualties they run away from the battle. And what happened in Nouristan is just a repetition of what happened in numerous other areas: Many fierce attacks with many Americans dead and injured, their tanks burned, and their shelters destroyed. What we can say happened in Nouristan is the total destruction of the principal American base. Now the policy of the foreign invaders is to shelter themselves by civilian sheilds, in market places and where ever there is a concentration of the population. Even so, they must remember the lessons of Kabul marketplace. There they were surrounded and killed and their head quarters destroyed. And in other places too they are not safe, where the think they are safe, patroling in markets such Mandarhar and Kunar, for example. Foreigners are not safe as long as they are in Afghanistan. They must leave otherwise they shall be targets everywhere they go in Afghanistan.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: What about the withdrawal of American troops to bases in cities?
Seif Allah Galali: As I told you: Whenever the Americans are attacked they run away. It happened in Baktia province too, but if my information is correct, a few troops have remained. Just as there are some troops remaining in Nouristan. But our attacks will continue untill we force them all to leave.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: You attacked the UN Guest House in Kabul. Why?
Seif Allah Galali: The majahidin attack on the UN was to disrupt and prevent the elections in Afghanistan, because the elections would not fulfill the aspirations of the Afghan people, nor would they satisfy the objectives of Taliban. Elections are just a game invented by America. By this, the Taliban announced they would prohibit the election, and the American game failed. The Mujahidin attack was to scuttle the elections.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: Some reports say that the Americans, the Germans, the French, pay the Taliban for not carrying out attacks, and to provide safe passage for their convoys. Has anybody offered cash to you? Have the Taliban received any such payments?
Seif Allah Galali: These are just rumours spread by the pagan enemy. They say that they pay the Taliban so as not to attack the Americans. The purpose of spreading such rumours is possibly tempt Taliban who may be in love with money. But the issue here is not one of money. This war is a war conviction. Throughout its history, Afghanistan has always fought pagan invaders who came to occupy the country and end the Moslem State, and for this, thousands of ******* have been martyred. Afghani resistance stems from conviction. Afghani resistance is based on faith and sacred duty (Jihad), and Mujahidins are not reachable by cash. The French in Saroubi area tried to send gifts to the Mujahidin and offered big sums of cash in return for averting attacks on French troops. But the Mujahidin refused and demanded that the French leave Afghanistan to which they came by force of arms as enemies.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: Some American reports say there are efforts to forms "Leshkars" and tribal councils to be led by prominent leaders in order to fight Taliban in the North and South of Afghanistan, to fight against you on behalf of the Americans. Is this true? And how would you deal with such an American strategy?
Seif Allah Galali: Pagans always try to create problems between *******, and turn Moslem against Moslem. They try to create followers or plant spies in their midst in order to to use them as assets against the Mujahidin. This was carried out in Logar, Kandahar and Maydan. They formed groups under the name of Arbaki. They spent enormous sums, and used these members against the Mujahidin, but the Mujahidin made the groups to wise up to what they were doing. The Mujahidin explained to these groups that they were collaborating with the enemy instead of fighting him to protect the country against the invaders. Those who did not agree were killed. By Gods will, no plans by the enemy will succeed. Let me make clear as to what happens in fact. Lots of groups take permission from the Taliban to join, they promise to hand over to the Taliban all foreign weaponry they receive from the government. These groups keep their promises, and have indeed turned over their weapons. With Gods will, non of the enemies plans are fulfilled, and they will not succeed no matter what they try.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: What is your relationship to the other fighters like Hekmatyar, Haqqani, and the Sallafi Gamaa at Konar and Nufstan?
Seif Allah Galali: Sheikh Haqqani is an important member in the Moslem Command, but it can be said that he is not one of the pillars but an important commander, and there are none in the movement who could be called Sallafi not Brilwi. All are *******. And there should be no differences between *******. The Americans are Christians, and the Israelis Jewish, there religions are different, their books are different, and even they even follow different prophets, but they are united as one against *******. We and the Salfis have the same book, our religion is one, and we are united against the non-believers, to fight side by side against them, to defend and liberate our maligned country against the injustice and against those criminals.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: You are the commander of the Kabul region, how do you recieve your orders from Mullah Omar?
Seif Allah Galali: Commander of the Faithful, Mullah Mohamed Omar, may God preserve him, appointed a deputy the Haj Mullah Brutar and there are fundamentals that concern each domain, and each domain has a deputy who is responsible for the affairs of the domain and other coordinate with this deputy. I am, for example, responsible for Kabul. I coordinate with other deputies for other domains untill the coordination reaches Mullah Omar. All takes place in an organised and controlled fashion. Mullah Omar attends personally on all matters and coordination. I must make clear that we conduct our affairs to succeed on the basis of God willing. And we can convey any message or information from any place, or request instructions, for example, regarding the arrest of a spy. As soon as we receive the reply we act immediately to let him loose or kill him immediately as per instructions.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: Some reports say thet Mullah Omar is in Queta or Karchi. Where is Mullah Omar?
Seif Allah Galali: Mullah Mohamed Omar, Commander of the Faithful, is in Afghanistan. Many places in Afghanistan are in the control of the Mujahidin, particularly in those centers where the government is present. Government officials do not have effective capabilities to make anything happen. Many areas in Afghanistan are safe for the Commander of the Faithful to move freely and easily, and live in peace and safety. There is no need for him to be in Pakistan. He lives freely in Afghanistan and issues his instructions from here. Americans accuse the ISI, the Pakistani Intelligence Service, of sheltering Mullah Omar, to give it a bad reputation and thereby put pressure in the Pakistanis. It is a war of words and mass media. And the Afghans know the Americans and the British very well, they know their plans and their machinations. It is not possible for the Afghanis to be fooled by these lies and machinations.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: There are reports of mediation between the Americans and Taliban. Is there really mediation?
Seif Allah Galali: The Americans are destabilized and very anxious because they are taking many casualties. Many American troops are being killed on a daily basis. That is why they are seeking mediation, but from Taliban they are getting no responce. Nothing.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: What are your conditions? Your conditions for the Americans to withdraw. Your conditions to stop the war in Afghanistan?
Seif Allah Galali: The pagans invaded our country, and derailed our system of government, many of our brothers have been martyred, and our people have suffered injustice, for all this we want these pagans to leave Afghanistan and leave our country. We did not go to them but they came to us and occupied our lands. What we want is their unconditional departure.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: The Americans hold on to the condition, or rather talk about, your abandoning of Al Qaeda. Are you ready to abandon Al Qaeda, if the Americans withdraw from Afghanistan?
Seif Allah Galali: The reply to the this question is the domain of the Moslem Command, specifically the political learship of the Command. And I am not able to state anything in this respect.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ:Turning back to Osama Bin Laden. Is he alive? Is he in Afghanistan? Where is he?
Seif Allah Galali:I have no knowledge regarding this. I am responsible for Kabul, the capital and the outlying areas. We have plenty of responsibilities and have no time for such matters.
hmad Zeidan AJ: _What about all the losses that the Americans talk about? Troops killed, and material losses, such as tanks, and other military equipment? Are the estimates correct? What are the losses?
Seif Allah Galali: The information concerning Kabul, for which I have good knowledge, is that only confirmed and reliable data is allowed to be transmitted. For example, if three tanks have been attacked, but only two are known to be destroyed, while the third is unconfirmed, then we declare that only two tanks have been destroyed. We do not want to lose the confidence of the people in us. To lie is a sin, and the curse of God is on the lairs. So news transmitted by Taliban regarding soldiers killed or tanks destroyed is well documented and always true. News that is in doubt is not published. We try to be accurate to defend the Command from being accused of lies.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: How many Americans or foriegners do you estimate have been killed in Afghanistan, or Kabul, for example?
Seif Allah Galali: As far as I remember, this year, and in the capital Kabul only, we were able to inflict heavy losses on the Americans, the French, the Italians. We destroyed 10 tanks by fire in Oset area, and we destroyed about 20 tanks in the area of Saroubi, we also burned 5 tanks in Birman. In addition we burnt about 40 military vehicles on the main road between the capital and Jersia, Serbia, and Kandahar. The foreign forces know very well these losses. And I can tell you that as a direct result of our opperations, Mujahidin attacks and suicide missions, about 200 foreign soldiers killed.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ:Regarding Kabul, what is the most memorable operation that you remember?
Seif Allah Galali: There are of course many. As for me personally, I was transporting 2000 kgs of explosives when I was stopped at a check point. The soldiers inspected one side of the truck, did not see anything, and thank God they let me go. At that moment I thought I had been caught. Thank God, I was not.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ:How do you finance your movements, your battles, your expenses? How do you satisfy military requirements? Where do the finances come from?
Seif Allah Galali: A lot is spent on the fighters. This year we spent about a million dollars. As for me, I need about 300 USD, and sometimes it is more. But there is also a share in the loot taken from the enemy. Arms captured run to about 200,000 USD. These kinds of sums are most useful when received by the Mujahidin. For example a shell that we use to kill a tank costs 50 USD. So for example with only 100,000 USD we can kill tens of tanks and armoured vehicles. On the other hand, the enemy cannot move anywhere with only 100,OOO USD. Our costs are bothing compared to the American costs or the costs of the puppet government. Our costs are very little but they are sufficient to achieve our objectives.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: What is your relationship with Pakistani Taliban?
Seif Allah Galali: I am responsible for Kabul, and all my time is conserned with the affairs in the Capital. I personally have no relationship with them. This is a matters for our commanders. and I do not know if they have a relationship with Pakistani Taliban or not.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: Can you speak a little about your plans for Kabul?
Seif Allah Galali: We have lots of plans for Kabul. and each time we carry out an operation we learn more. We have implemented about 80% of our plan for this year. Next year, God willing, we hope we will achieve 100% of our plans for the year. As time goes by we get more experience, and the Mojahidin get to know their arms better. Next year out operations will more and on a greater scale. We have detailed plans for Kabul. You will surely hear about our operations as will the whole world. And you will hear about the great losses inflicted on the pagans. Talking about these plans is not appropriate. We you see with your own eyes the results of our plans, you will understand why we were discrete, and why did not give a chance for the enemy to improve his defences.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: Thank you for being with us and thank you for this interview.
Source:
Al Jazeera interview broadcast 4/Dec/2009 in Arabic:
Interview conducted by Al Jazeera's Ahmad Zeidan broadcast on 4/12/2009
(from soundtrack: original translation by informatron for iraq-war.ru):
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: My first question is, what is the military situation in Kabul, and what are your plans?
Seif Allah Galali: In the name of God, the merciful. Kabul is very important. It is the capital of Afghanistan. In addition, Kabul is a major focus for the international establishment: 42 pagan countries have a presence in the capital of Afghanistan. And everyone in Kabul is concerned about the security of the Capital. Therefore it is evident that it is difficult to carry out resistance operations inside Kabul but, as you have heard, thank God Almighty, we carried out numerous successful attacks inside the city, in collaboration with the outlying regions. Our operations severly destabalised the pagans inside Afghanistan, destabalised their very countries, and their institutions. There are various types of operations that have been carried out: We have engaged in bombing attacks, joint operations, commando attacks, suicide missions, and even open battles with the pagan invaders. We have plenty of examples operating inside the city where it is difficult for anyone to move around with ease. We have attacked NATO Head Quarters, the Foreign Affairs Administration, the Ministry of Interior, and Serina Hotel, and we downed a helicopter near the capital. That is just to give you some examples of our strength. We also conducted an open battle which lasted 10 hours in the area of Massi. Another battle in Uzbin. All these examples point to the strength of our Mujahidin fighters.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: Some weeks ago, the Americans withdrew from Nouristan. What is the situation now? Do you think the Americans shall withdraw away from the villages to towns?
Seif Allah Galali: Everyone heard about what happened in Nouristan. Our Mujahidin carried out a series of successful operations against the Americans, and we have come to learn that when Americans suffer casualties they run away from the battle. And what happened in Nouristan is just a repetition of what happened in numerous other areas: Many fierce attacks with many Americans dead and injured, their tanks burned, and their shelters destroyed. What we can say happened in Nouristan is the total destruction of the principal American base. Now the policy of the foreign invaders is to shelter themselves by civilian sheilds, in market places and where ever there is a concentration of the population. Even so, they must remember the lessons of Kabul marketplace. There they were surrounded and killed and their head quarters destroyed. And in other places too they are not safe, where the think they are safe, patroling in markets such Mandarhar and Kunar, for example. Foreigners are not safe as long as they are in Afghanistan. They must leave otherwise they shall be targets everywhere they go in Afghanistan.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: What about the withdrawal of American troops to bases in cities?
Seif Allah Galali: As I told you: Whenever the Americans are attacked they run away. It happened in Baktia province too, but if my information is correct, a few troops have remained. Just as there are some troops remaining in Nouristan. But our attacks will continue untill we force them all to leave.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: You attacked the UN Guest House in Kabul. Why?
Seif Allah Galali: The majahidin attack on the UN was to disrupt and prevent the elections in Afghanistan, because the elections would not fulfill the aspirations of the Afghan people, nor would they satisfy the objectives of Taliban. Elections are just a game invented by America. By this, the Taliban announced they would prohibit the election, and the American game failed. The Mujahidin attack was to scuttle the elections.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: Some reports say that the Americans, the Germans, the French, pay the Taliban for not carrying out attacks, and to provide safe passage for their convoys. Has anybody offered cash to you? Have the Taliban received any such payments?
Seif Allah Galali: These are just rumours spread by the pagan enemy. They say that they pay the Taliban so as not to attack the Americans. The purpose of spreading such rumours is possibly tempt Taliban who may be in love with money. But the issue here is not one of money. This war is a war conviction. Throughout its history, Afghanistan has always fought pagan invaders who came to occupy the country and end the Moslem State, and for this, thousands of ******* have been martyred. Afghani resistance stems from conviction. Afghani resistance is based on faith and sacred duty (Jihad), and Mujahidins are not reachable by cash. The French in Saroubi area tried to send gifts to the Mujahidin and offered big sums of cash in return for averting attacks on French troops. But the Mujahidin refused and demanded that the French leave Afghanistan to which they came by force of arms as enemies.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: Some American reports say there are efforts to forms "Leshkars" and tribal councils to be led by prominent leaders in order to fight Taliban in the North and South of Afghanistan, to fight against you on behalf of the Americans. Is this true? And how would you deal with such an American strategy?
Seif Allah Galali: Pagans always try to create problems between *******, and turn Moslem against Moslem. They try to create followers or plant spies in their midst in order to to use them as assets against the Mujahidin. This was carried out in Logar, Kandahar and Maydan. They formed groups under the name of Arbaki. They spent enormous sums, and used these members against the Mujahidin, but the Mujahidin made the groups to wise up to what they were doing. The Mujahidin explained to these groups that they were collaborating with the enemy instead of fighting him to protect the country against the invaders. Those who did not agree were killed. By Gods will, no plans by the enemy will succeed. Let me make clear as to what happens in fact. Lots of groups take permission from the Taliban to join, they promise to hand over to the Taliban all foreign weaponry they receive from the government. These groups keep their promises, and have indeed turned over their weapons. With Gods will, non of the enemies plans are fulfilled, and they will not succeed no matter what they try.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: What is your relationship to the other fighters like Hekmatyar, Haqqani, and the Sallafi Gamaa at Konar and Nufstan?
Seif Allah Galali: Sheikh Haqqani is an important member in the Moslem Command, but it can be said that he is not one of the pillars but an important commander, and there are none in the movement who could be called Sallafi not Brilwi. All are *******. And there should be no differences between *******. The Americans are Christians, and the Israelis Jewish, there religions are different, their books are different, and even they even follow different prophets, but they are united as one against *******. We and the Salfis have the same book, our religion is one, and we are united against the non-believers, to fight side by side against them, to defend and liberate our maligned country against the injustice and against those criminals.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: You are the commander of the Kabul region, how do you recieve your orders from Mullah Omar?
Seif Allah Galali: Commander of the Faithful, Mullah Mohamed Omar, may God preserve him, appointed a deputy the Haj Mullah Brutar and there are fundamentals that concern each domain, and each domain has a deputy who is responsible for the affairs of the domain and other coordinate with this deputy. I am, for example, responsible for Kabul. I coordinate with other deputies for other domains untill the coordination reaches Mullah Omar. All takes place in an organised and controlled fashion. Mullah Omar attends personally on all matters and coordination. I must make clear that we conduct our affairs to succeed on the basis of God willing. And we can convey any message or information from any place, or request instructions, for example, regarding the arrest of a spy. As soon as we receive the reply we act immediately to let him loose or kill him immediately as per instructions.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: Some reports say thet Mullah Omar is in Queta or Karchi. Where is Mullah Omar?
Seif Allah Galali: Mullah Mohamed Omar, Commander of the Faithful, is in Afghanistan. Many places in Afghanistan are in the control of the Mujahidin, particularly in those centers where the government is present. Government officials do not have effective capabilities to make anything happen. Many areas in Afghanistan are safe for the Commander of the Faithful to move freely and easily, and live in peace and safety. There is no need for him to be in Pakistan. He lives freely in Afghanistan and issues his instructions from here. Americans accuse the ISI, the Pakistani Intelligence Service, of sheltering Mullah Omar, to give it a bad reputation and thereby put pressure in the Pakistanis. It is a war of words and mass media. And the Afghans know the Americans and the British very well, they know their plans and their machinations. It is not possible for the Afghanis to be fooled by these lies and machinations.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: There are reports of mediation between the Americans and Taliban. Is there really mediation?
Seif Allah Galali: The Americans are destabilized and very anxious because they are taking many casualties. Many American troops are being killed on a daily basis. That is why they are seeking mediation, but from Taliban they are getting no responce. Nothing.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: What are your conditions? Your conditions for the Americans to withdraw. Your conditions to stop the war in Afghanistan?
Seif Allah Galali: The pagans invaded our country, and derailed our system of government, many of our brothers have been martyred, and our people have suffered injustice, for all this we want these pagans to leave Afghanistan and leave our country. We did not go to them but they came to us and occupied our lands. What we want is their unconditional departure.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: The Americans hold on to the condition, or rather talk about, your abandoning of Al Qaeda. Are you ready to abandon Al Qaeda, if the Americans withdraw from Afghanistan?
Seif Allah Galali: The reply to the this question is the domain of the Moslem Command, specifically the political learship of the Command. And I am not able to state anything in this respect.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ:Turning back to Osama Bin Laden. Is he alive? Is he in Afghanistan? Where is he?
Seif Allah Galali:I have no knowledge regarding this. I am responsible for Kabul, the capital and the outlying areas. We have plenty of responsibilities and have no time for such matters.
hmad Zeidan AJ: _What about all the losses that the Americans talk about? Troops killed, and material losses, such as tanks, and other military equipment? Are the estimates correct? What are the losses?
Seif Allah Galali: The information concerning Kabul, for which I have good knowledge, is that only confirmed and reliable data is allowed to be transmitted. For example, if three tanks have been attacked, but only two are known to be destroyed, while the third is unconfirmed, then we declare that only two tanks have been destroyed. We do not want to lose the confidence of the people in us. To lie is a sin, and the curse of God is on the lairs. So news transmitted by Taliban regarding soldiers killed or tanks destroyed is well documented and always true. News that is in doubt is not published. We try to be accurate to defend the Command from being accused of lies.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: How many Americans or foriegners do you estimate have been killed in Afghanistan, or Kabul, for example?
Seif Allah Galali: As far as I remember, this year, and in the capital Kabul only, we were able to inflict heavy losses on the Americans, the French, the Italians. We destroyed 10 tanks by fire in Oset area, and we destroyed about 20 tanks in the area of Saroubi, we also burned 5 tanks in Birman. In addition we burnt about 40 military vehicles on the main road between the capital and Jersia, Serbia, and Kandahar. The foreign forces know very well these losses. And I can tell you that as a direct result of our opperations, Mujahidin attacks and suicide missions, about 200 foreign soldiers killed.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ:Regarding Kabul, what is the most memorable operation that you remember?
Seif Allah Galali: There are of course many. As for me personally, I was transporting 2000 kgs of explosives when I was stopped at a check point. The soldiers inspected one side of the truck, did not see anything, and thank God they let me go. At that moment I thought I had been caught. Thank God, I was not.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ:How do you finance your movements, your battles, your expenses? How do you satisfy military requirements? Where do the finances come from?
Seif Allah Galali: A lot is spent on the fighters. This year we spent about a million dollars. As for me, I need about 300 USD, and sometimes it is more. But there is also a share in the loot taken from the enemy. Arms captured run to about 200,000 USD. These kinds of sums are most useful when received by the Mujahidin. For example a shell that we use to kill a tank costs 50 USD. So for example with only 100,000 USD we can kill tens of tanks and armoured vehicles. On the other hand, the enemy cannot move anywhere with only 100,OOO USD. Our costs are bothing compared to the American costs or the costs of the puppet government. Our costs are very little but they are sufficient to achieve our objectives.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: What is your relationship with Pakistani Taliban?
Seif Allah Galali: I am responsible for Kabul, and all my time is conserned with the affairs in the Capital. I personally have no relationship with them. This is a matters for our commanders. and I do not know if they have a relationship with Pakistani Taliban or not.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: Can you speak a little about your plans for Kabul?
Seif Allah Galali: We have lots of plans for Kabul. and each time we carry out an operation we learn more. We have implemented about 80% of our plan for this year. Next year, God willing, we hope we will achieve 100% of our plans for the year. As time goes by we get more experience, and the Mojahidin get to know their arms better. Next year out operations will more and on a greater scale. We have detailed plans for Kabul. You will surely hear about our operations as will the whole world. And you will hear about the great losses inflicted on the pagans. Talking about these plans is not appropriate. We you see with your own eyes the results of our plans, you will understand why we were discrete, and why did not give a chance for the enemy to improve his defences.
Ahmad Zeidan AJ: Thank you for being with us and thank you for this interview.
Source:
Al Jazeera interview broadcast 4/Dec/2009 in Arabic:
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