Israel Today!

[SekrutYakhni]

It is a must watch!

Kindly watch all of the clip and reply!

Must watch!!!


It is a latest video!

 

[SekrutYakhni]

There are many valid points stated that what about Muslim genocide?
No one talks about it..

Why?

Many Muslims are killed under the "terrorism" umbrella..

To suppress the revolt media played an intelligent game..

We saw groups, discussions, movies from Muslims which showed that they were "secular" but we forgot that the war was not based upon our believes...
The day we started to justify that we were not terrorists was the first day of our "cultural/religious" downfall...

Why we had to justify our believes?
When we knew the point of the war was something else!

Once again "cheers" to the people who won!

They trapped us very well and we started to talk about secularism, western secularism, Islam, Sharia Law, Women rights etc

My question is

Why we had to justify our believes i.e. that Islam is a secular religion when we knew the goal of the war was something else..

If we wanted to show Western people that we were not terrorists..well too bad...our voice was only heard on You Tube and Islamic channels including some others...

 

[SSGPA1]

It is good to see Jews like Norman who have the courage to speak freely.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Yes he has a courage!

Appreciate it!

I sent Norman an email today!

 

[SekrutYakhni]

This is the email he replied..

Dear Sir,
Thank you for replying Sir. Religion itself is nothing except respecting each other. My views about religion are quite different as I do not believe in free will. Anyways, it is a long discussion and I don't think you have enough time to talk about it with me. I hope you tell us unbiased historical events which can further enhance our understanding of the past. I believe the numbers of Holocaust are exaggerated rather than denying the Holocaust. Holocaust happened to every religion but nowadays it surrounds people following Judaism.
I appreciate your kind reply. Thank you. If you have time we can email each other as it will be my pleasure to talk to a person like you.


Regards,
Saad




Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:03:53 -0500
Subject: Re: DEAR SIR IMPORTANT!!! IMPORTANT
From: normfinkelstein@gmail.com
To: .......

I am not religious myself, but I surely respect those for whom religion plays a central role in their lives. Each of us finds meaning and purpose a different way. For Gandhi the question was not whether you were religious but whether you were willing to serve humankind.

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:52 PM, saad <.....> wrote:
Dear Sir,
January 27, 2010 was the first day I saw you on the T.V i.e. Russia Today (RT). You made quite legitimate points and I really appreciate your contributions. Muslims including Jews and Christians were always lied by some politicians. I bet you that if media played a positive role and instead of turing Muslims vs Jews as a religious fight, we could solve the problem peacefully. Religion is always used to play with people's emotions. When there is no outlet and one wants to gain the popularity of their doings/actions, religion comes into place. I do not know when people will come out of the emotional barrier of a religion and take religion as a positive thing rather than using it. Religion is a must in our life but it depends how we use or understand it.

Regards,
Saad


I do not want to share my email address..however if some one asks I can provide.

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Please do not derail this thread!

 

[gubbi]

This is the email he replied..

Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 22:03:53 -0500
Subject: Re: DEAR SIR IMPORTANT!!! IMPORTANT
From: normfinkelstein@gmail.com
To: .......

I am not religious myself, but I surely respect those for whom religion plays a central role in their lives. Each of us finds meaning and purpose a different way. For Gandhi the question was not whether you were religious but whether you were willing to serve humankind.

Is that all he replied? Is there more to the mail? I would have loved to know further what his thoughts were.

btw, anyone notice he mentions Gandhi?

 

[SekrutYakhni]

Is that all he replied? Is there more to the mail? I would have loved to know further what his thoughts were.

btw, anyone notice he mentions Gandhi?

I knew Indian members will point put Gandhi thats why I said do not derail. He mentioned Gandhi..good for you. There will be bashing now..
etc..

I just emailed him couple of hours ago and I was surprised to get the reply...

He is a nice person!

I just copied and paste the email...All he said is there

 

[gubbi]

I knew Indian members will point put Gandhi thats why I said do not derail. He mentioned Gandhi..good for you. There will be bashing now..
etc..

I just emailed him couple of hours ago and I was surprised to get the reply...

He is a nice person!

I just copied and paste the email...All he said is there

I didnt read your post about derailing, but the context is so right when he quotes Gandhi.
What would you rather do, serve humanity or serve religion (keep in mind these are two different entities - with different demands from you)?

 

[SekrutYakhni]

I didnt read your post about derailing, but the context is so right when he quotes Gandhi.
What would you rather do, serve humanity or your religion (keep in mind these are two different entities - with different demands from you)

Yes Sir. With due respect and honour I have some questions about the quotes of Gandhi and the way they are presented. I could not resist to say thats why I said do not derail the thread...
I respect your views but please do not bring Gandhi in it.
I hope you understand...

Thank you in advance.
Do not mind.

 

[gubbi]

No no, my friend. I do not intend to derail. I just said Gandhi's quote is very relevant in this context. I liked what you said in your first mail to him. I was impressed with his reply. However your second reply plainly contradicts some points from your first mail.

And thats why I asked, who would you rather serve, humanity or religion?

 

[SekrutYakhni]

No no, my friend. I do not intend to derail. I just said Gandhi's quote is very relevant in this context. I liked what you said in your first mail to him. I was impressed with his reply. However your second reply plainly contradicts some points from your first mail.

And thats why I asked, who would you rather serve, humanity or religion?

I said we do not have free will hence shattering the views of religious people. I follow my religion i.e. Islam...I do not eat pork, do not drink etc but I believe our roles were programmed before we were born...It is a big discussion...My concepts always contradict because many people do believe in free will so I have to talk to them in the language they believe i.e. sin, hell, heaven...

Gandhi was a nice man but he is portrayed like a superstar..
You have all the right to ask me why but PM me..do not derail about Gandhi here..

Thank you.

Overall I believe in one God, Prophets, Sufi Allah etc..
but my believes (understanding the concept of the existence of humans and life) are different from Muslims of today and any other religion...
I intentionally contradict my statements...

and religion teaches us peace so I would serve humanity as religion says..
BUT
I cant recite my religion as I serve humanity because Humans are evil enough!

It is better to serve humanity as your religion says rather than serving humanity without the base...

 

[qsaark]

And thats why I asked, who would you rather serve, humanity or religion?

Which religion teaches against humanity? Islam? Christian shed blood in the name of Christianity during the crusades? Who was at fault? Those who used the name of Christianity to achieve political ambitions or the Christianity by itself? Same holds true for the Muslim Emperors, and the Zionists, and the present day modern crusaders, the evangelicals etc, the TTP type folks and so on and so forth.