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I'm making this thread as an extension of that Che Guevara thread where comrade @jamahir had recommended me to open a new thread about socialism.

In that thread, I argued that the West is more communitarian and has more socialist values than a lot of Asian countries. I used my own country Viet Nam as an example. I will now extend that argument and say that a lot of Asian countries, including the ones that call themselves "socialist", exhibit many Fascist characteristics. I wanted to find an article about this on Viet Nam but I could only find ones that argue the same thing about China. But whatever arguments they put forward against China, it can also be applied to Viet Nam.

So here is the article:

Is China a fascist state? | openDemocracy

As the prime minister of China prepared to meet Her Majesty (or, to quote Bette Midler, "Her Royal Heinie"), the deputy prime minister (his name is Nicholas Clegg) referred to the Beijing regime as a "communist one party state", to which the people of China are "shackled".

The deputy prime minister has the ‘one party’ part correct, but is the Chinese state ‘communist’? To put it another way, should this overtly authoritarian regime be assigned to the politics of the left, yet another example of Marxism-socialism-communism leading to dictatorship? Or is the Beijing dictatorship something quite different that has no kinship to the politics of the left?

This same question occurred to me recently when I participated in a discussion in London, at a private dinner party with about a dozen people who included several trade unionists, a member of parliament and a prominent television journalist known for his progressive views - probably the most left-wing mainstream journalist in the United Kingdom. In the course of the discussion the journalist told us that on the basis of his many trips to China, he had reached the conclusion that far from communist or socialist, the Chinese regime was fascist.

The nature of the regime in China has been on my mind ever since that discussion. My concern to understand the political orientation of the Chinese regime is part of broader worries about the rise of authoritarian political parties and governments throughout the world. It is my strong impression that South America, though far from perfect, is the only region of the world without a clear rise in the influence of anti-democratic, authoritarian parties and governments. In a recent Real News video interviewwith friend and colleague Trevor Evans, concerns about the rise of the far right in the European Union elections last month played a central role.

Is branding the Chinese regime fascist more than name-calling? If the F-word applies to China, does it enhance our understanding of China and the anti-democratic movements elsewhere? I believe that the answer is ‘yes’--an ‘authoritarian communist China’ has quite different political implications than a ‘fascist-authoritarian China’. The twenty-fifth anniversary of the suppression of theTiananmen Square protests would seem an appropriate moment to address this issue.

The first step is to define ‘fascism’ in an operational manner that distinguishes it from other types of authoritarian ideologies and regimes. The standard, dictionary definition, "an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization", is too vague to be useful. In its place I characterize a fascist regime first and foremost as capitalist and anti-labour. The two are related because suppression of the working class holds wages low, which facilitates the faster growth of profit. Suppression of the standard of living also allows for export-oriented capitalism, though historical evidence shows that wages can rise in fascist societies.

Almost all capitalist dictatorships are aggressively anti-labour, but not all are fascist--the Pinochet regime was authoritarian, anti-labour but not fascist. To qualify as fascist an anti-labour capitalist dictatorship must boast (the appropriate word) other characteristics. As Hitler and Mussolini demonstrated, fascist regimes are more than nationalist, they are expansionist.

In addition to chauvinistic expansion, fascist regimes are anti-liberal in the strict sense of explicitly denying thevalues of the Enlightenment--individual freedoms including the principle of open inquiry. This is a distinguishing characteristic of fascism--that the elimination of the rights of the individual is not presented as a temporary measure to counter some perceived threat (such as an external enemy). It is defended as a necessary and appropriate way to organize society on a permanent basis. To quote from a fascist founder,

Fascism combats the whole complex system of democratic ideology, and repudiates it, whether in its theoretical premises or in its practical application. Fascism denies that the majority, by the simple fact that it is a majority, can direct human society...

An additional characteristic of fascism, closely related to the rejection of the role of the individual (except the Leader) is corporatist social organization. In the garden variety dictatorship, civil society continues to function as long as its organizations manifest no political opposition. Under fascism, the regime seeks to destroy and replace civil society with corporatist structures, the most important of which is a mass political party subservient to the regime and its faux participatory organizations, for youth (the Hitler Youth), the working class (the German Labour Front), and even exercise and fitness groups (Nationalsozialistischer Reichsbund für Leibesübungen). The linguistic link between ‘corporation’ and ‘corporatist’ is not accidental. Fascism is capitalist to its core.

Few would deny that China is a capitalist society, with an economy organized around and driven by corporate profit. Thus, at the outset we can dismiss suggestions or arguments like those of Clegg that present China as socialist and/or communist. If those words have any meaning, they cannot apply to a capitalist society (and if China is not capitalist, the Pope is not a Catholic).

In my experience the Chinese regime and the Communist Party ideology satisfy the anti-Enlightenment test. The central planning regimes of the Soviet Union and East and Central Europe claimed to have or aspire to workers' democracy (not "bourgeois democracy"). They even had the formal institutions to mimic this aspiration, as well as claiming a form of free expression, perverse and disingenuous as it was.

In discussion after discussion in meetings with Chinese officials, I have encountered what might be called the "Asian values" argument--"Chinese people want an improvement in their material conditions, not western democracy". As for freedom of intellectual inquiry, it is my experience that Chinese academics based in China tend to endorse variations of rote learning in the social sciences and humanities (I cannot comment on teaching and research in the sciences).

As for corporatism, the Chinese regime has strong qualifications. The Communist Party of China is a mass organization and subservient to the regime. Its supposedly non-political activities reach into many aspects of daily life, mimicking the non-existent civil society.

That leaves chauvinistic expansionism. Like the issue of capitalism in China, almost no one would deny the rampant chauvinism of the Chinese regime and the (so-called) Communist Party. But, chauvinism is not the monopoly of fascists. To go from chauvinistic authoritarianism to fascist authoritarianism a regime has to adopt militaristic expansionism. Whether the Chinese regime has taken that step is not clear to me. There can be little doubt that the regime is quite prepared (in more ways than one) to use the explicit or implicit threat of force to achieve diplomatic and territorial gains.

The first post-WWII military expansion by a Chinese regime was long before the society had even a hint of capitalism, the ‘Sino-Indian’ border war in 1962 (when Mao Zedong was firmly in charge). The ‘Sino-Vietnamese’ war occurred just as the Chinese regime began the shift from central planning to aggressive capitalism, thus should not be taken as evidence of fascist tendencies to militarism.

However, more recent disputes over territory have provoked considerable belligerence from the Chinese regime, among these, the aggressive assertion ofChinese territorial claims in the South China Sea. To that can be added the dispute with the Japanese government over the Senkaku Islands, in which the US government has weighed in on the Japanese side, a clear example of capitalist super-power rivalry (I do not refer to Japan).

The overlap of fascist characteristics with the concrete aspects of the Chinese regime suggest at least two possible interpretations. First, the key fascist traits of corporatism in place of civil society, including a mass party, may be a vestige of the central planning period that the Chinese leadership plans to discard when it is no longer useful in building a capitalist superpower.

In other words, the regime is a familiar capitalist dictatorship in the process of shedding the trappings of socialism. If this is the case, the possibility exists that at some point in the future the regime will undergo democratic reform. This could be generated from below by working class protests as well as the putative democratic aspirations of the rising middle class (seereport of the former in Aljazeera).

Alternatively, the regime may be in the process of transforming the structures of the central planning period into institutions to consolidate and render permanent a dictatorship of capital. If that is the case, hopes for democratic reform have no basis. Change would require insurrection and overthrow of the regime.

In this context it is sobering to recall that the fascist regimes established before WWII fell as a result of world war not internal insurrection. More sobering still is another comparison to the first half of the twentieth century. In the early twenty first century there is no militarily powerful government like that of the United States under Franklin D Roosevelt to lead an alliance of bourgeois democracies against the rise of a neo-fascist coalition.

About the author:
John Weeks is Professor Emeritus, School of Oriental & African Studies, University of London.


Let's discuss and keep this thread academic and intellectual. So no trolling please. To the mods, if there are trolling, then ban the trolls, don't just let them go free and delete my thread. If you don't ban them then that's perfectly fine to me, as I believe in free speech. Just don't use the trolls as an excuse to delete my thread.

I will keep this thread academic and will post academic sources if it becomes good. So welcome all to discuss. Let's start with the discussion topic "Is China (or Viet Nam or other Asian countries) a Fascist state?"

Is the author's definition of Fascism correct? If yes, does China fit that definition?

Comrade @jamahir and all the real socialists out there, come join this thread. Let's learn more about true socialism.
 
see, here's why you cannot have this question discussed: it is an unfair question because it singles out China, when many countries are pretty much the definition of fascism. See, for example, Singapore or Japan. In fact, the "Asian values" argument has *never been put forth by Chinese scholars* because Chinese do not recognize "Asian values" - we recognize Chinese, then neighboring countries, then Europeans/Africans, then Americans in increasing order of distance. The theory of Asian values was put forth by Singapore and advanced by Japan.

I also think that the entire premise of the argument is incorrect: the author says Chinese have anti-inquiry values and there is no civil society. All you need to do is open up any search engine, and you can find examples of perfectly legal Chinese NGOs in work ranging from rural literacy to animal welfare.

For example...

Firefly Project (Rural Literacy): 萤火虫计划_百度百科

Friends of Nature (Environmental Protection): 自然之友_百度百科

Green Angels (Animal Welfare) 绿色使者志愿者协会_百度百科

Anti-inquiry is just a code word used by racists for those "copying, non-innovative, memorization based Asians". It is a huge insult to every Chinese scholar and learned person - that all they can do is copy and memorize, based on their race alone.

He then talks about chauvinism. What chauvinism does he mean? Gender chauvinism? China has more gender equality than pretty much every other Asian country and many European ones. National chauvinism? China has never proclaimed itself "exceptional", which is the true definition of chauvinism. So what chauvinism is he talking about?

Attitudes: According to Global Views of Economic Opportunity and Inequality | Pew Research Center Vietnamese (60% majority) believe (under section Many Say Low Taxes Are the Answer) that LOWER taxes reduce inequality. Chinese (42% plurality; all other choices lower) believe HIGHER taxes reduce inequality.

Chinese also tend to 1. view inequality as a huge economic threat (42% do) and 2. view government as responsible for solving inequality (43% plurality). Meanwhile, Vietnamese believe that 1. inequality isn't a big deal (only 34% do) and 2. it is not the government's problem but rather because wages are simply too low (33% plurality).


Also note that many state owned corporations in China operate at a loss to provide services and products at prices affordable to the public. For example, the railroads, electricity companies and universities are not expected to make any profit whatsoever. Contrast to the market orientation of universities in the US who even have brand managers, customer service representatives and the other characteristics of a corporation.

The author's argument is actually a very old 19th century racist one based on ideas of white supremacy, rather than any sound argument based on facts.
 
China is actually a confuciano-bureaucratic-dictationship, a slight difference from the previous confuciano-hereditary-dictatorship.

A fascist state is base on racist/sectarian principle that the non core race/sect got to be shit upon. For example Islamo state is a fascist state, and whoever quit Islam must be put to sleep.

In China no one force you to accept confucianism and you can believe in anything, so long you do not threaten the security of state.

China, Singapore and Taiwan are the 3 states in this planet that treats.minority better than core race.
 
…Fascist Nazi had massacred communists during and before WW2

Fascism (/fæʃɪzəm/) is a form of reactionary authoritarian nationalism[1][2] that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Influenced by national syndicalism, fascism originated in Italy during World War I, in opposition to liberalism, Marxism, anarchism and traditional conservatism. Fascism is often placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum, but some academics call that description inadequate.[3][4]
Fascism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
I would like to answer you. China is a highly centralized system of country.

1. In B.C 221, China build Qin empire, that's the Qin First Emperor's, it's highly centralized system or called fascist system, set up counties all over the territory.

2. Because the Qin dynasty is over fascism and strict law, it's collapsed after 14 years. Han empire made effective reform, accept centralized system with civilian officials and local royal feudal government. Han empire lasted for 442 years.

3. In Sui and Tang dynasty since A.D 581, China made further reform. The system included centralized emperor rights, 6 top central official departments, select officers via exam, borderland Generals military local government. This system lasted until the established of Republic of China.

4. ROC is the first democratic government in Asia in 1912, but it is still centralized government, it has dozens of parties, but KMT dominate most things.

5. China nowadays continue a centralized government led by CCP. That's all, I introduce briefly more than 2 thousand years history of China.
 
If I had to classify China's political system, it is pretty much an Authoritarian Socialist-Confucian Oligarchy.

There is no one person to rule everything. Instead it is the Politburo. No dictatorship here. Many policies from both traditional Chinese culture and socialism are practiced. Indeed, traditional Chinese culture was the origin of socialism - 榷盐,榷铁, the salt and steel monopolies, were the first state owned enterprises in history. But the language of liberal socialism - of gender equality, ethnic equality, protection of labor - still enshrined in our laws.
 
see, here's why you cannot have this question discussed: it is an unfair question because it singles out China, when many countries are pretty much the definition of fascism.

I wanted to find an article about this on Viet Nam but I could only find ones that argue the same thing about China.


while the author, john weeks, is in line with our previous discussions about china not a socialist society at all, i sense that the author seeks to connect china to the old-germany ultra-expansionist ideal.

we must also be careful about the source website because it is most definitely a nato project... look at articles about syria here ( Through Syrian eyes | openDemocracy )... they are all anti-syrian-government in a softly softly manner.

China has never proclaimed itself "exceptional", which is the true definition of chauvinism. So what chauvinism is he talking about?

ultra-nationalism.

for example, the chinese space station program... why couldn't china involve russia and north korea and venezuela and syria and cuba in this project ?? besides, russia have their own space station project and that need not have been necessary if china had collaborated with the mention countries.

look at expansion of china in africa... there is no ideological decisions behind chinese entry into african nations... it is a plan for commercial monopoly.

look at china's mixed role in libya 2011... from ( China’s Libya Problem | The Diplomat )...
Unlike Western powers such as France and Britain, China was reluctant to support Libya’s rebels when they asked the international community to intervene military last March. It abstained from a Security Council resolution authorizing “all necessary measures” to protect civilians.

"abstained" only and not acted against nato plans, and certainly not as actively participant in opposing as russia did.

Official Chinese media outlets described the revolution as “foreign military intervention” leading to “war and chaos.” Chinese correspondents were reportedly prohibited from using the word “revolution” in their dispatches from Libya.

okay, good.

Despite refusing to support the rebels, Beijing initiated contact with their interim government, known as the National Transitional Council (NTC), in the spring through its embassies in Egypt and Qatar.

so china government was sitting on the fence, watching which side would win.

According to the documents, the Chinese companies were prepared toviolate the U.N. arms embargo imposed on Libya and sell Gaddafi $200 million worth of weapons, such as rocket launchers, antitank missiles, and portable surface-to-air missiles.

mixed message... was china being supportive of a comradely socialist society or was it just hoping that the libyan jamahiriya military ( government ) would win and life would go on without too much trouble ??

Nevertheless, China is eager to reenter Libya’s lucrative market. Beijing has been bolstered by NTC announcements that Libya will honor all contracts signed by the Gaddafi regime. However, the council has indicated that countries that were supportive during the revolution will be given preferential treatment in future deals.

Realizing that it has a lot of ground to recover, Beijing sent a trade delegation to Libya recently headed by the director of the Ministry of Commerce’s Foreign Investment and Economic Cooperation Department. The mission was tasked with gauging the status of Chinese contracts and scouting out potential new ones. Among the companies that participated in the delegation were China State Construction Engineering Corp, China Gezhouba Group Corporation, Huawei Technologies, and Zhongxing Technologies (ZTC). Though telecommunications companies Huawei and ZTC have resumed operations in Libya, none of China’s construction companies – which account for the lion’s share of Beijing’s interests in the country – have done so.

so china government is cutting deals with libya's current occupation government that is made up of terrorists of qaeda and ikhwaan ( mb group ) mainly ?? why didn't the chinese communist party stop this ??

remember, this article is from march 2012, just five months after the nato regime-change happened and hillary clinton visited tripoli like a conquering queen.

to go back to the article in the op...
It is my strong impression that South America, though far from perfect, is the only region of the world without a clear rise in the influence of anti-democratic, authoritarian parties and governments.

i don't know if the author is talking about venezuela, but this bolivarian revolutionary republic is getting transformed at citizen level... venezuela is getting converted as a society of communes - decentralized neighborhoods that are self-sufficient in decision making and most local upkeep, but guided overall by socialism, and with each citizen in a locality participating in the social/day-to-day maintainance of the locality... isn't this the beginnings of true communism ??

from ( Building Socialism from Below: The Role of the Communes in Venezuela | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization )...
We met with Antenea Jimenez, a former militant with the student movement who is now working with a national network of activists who are trying to build and strengthen the comunas. The comunas are community organizations promoted since 2006 by the Chávez government as a way to consolidate a new form of state based upon production at the local level. She told us about the important advances in the process, as well as the significant challenges that remain in the struggle to build a new form of popular power from below.

from ( Venezuela: More than 1000 communes registered | Green Left Weekly )...
In a national census held over September 7 and 8, 1150 communes registered in a national census, exceeding expectations.

The communes are forms of “popular power” in Venezuela that unite representatives of local communal councils across a regional area. Community councils in Venezuela are grassroots bodies where local residents manage public funds and undertake projects promoting community development.

Communes, meanwhile, are formed by groups of community councils, and can take on larger scale projects and public works.

The Ministry of Communes has also launched a website, “Inside the Commune”, which features testimonies of commune activists and shares information about experiences of communal organisation in the country.

Iturriza said the website had been created “so that the Venezuelan people know about the realities of people’s power, its achievements, mistakes and projects, pushed forward by these fighting men and women, [who are] creators of the Communal State”.

so there's a entire "ministry of communes"... this is a ongoing live experiment.


the commune system was what existed in the libyan jamahiriya... direct-democracy socialism.
 
This is an often made mistake by the foreign scholars. Fact is China is still socialism/communism to the core,and will behave more like one little by little
 
The author sounds like a left-wing nut.

A great man once said: ' -- and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.'

Fascism is simply the complete opposite. And just because a country is fascist, doesn't mean it is expansionist.

China as a one-party state may have its flaws, but that doesn't make it fascist.
 
for example, the chinese space station program... why couldn't china involve russia and north korea and venezuela and syria and cuba in this project ?? besides, russia have their own space station project and that need not have been necessary if china had collaborated with the mention countries.

look at expansion of china in africa... there is no ideological decisions behind chinese entry into african nations... it is a plan for commercial monopoly.

look at china's mixed role in libya 2011... from ( China’s Libya Problem | The Diplomat )...

"abstained" only and not acted against nato plans, and certainly not as actively participant in opposing as russia did.

okay, good.



so china government was sitting on the fence, watching which side would win.



mixed message... was china being supportive of a comradely socialist society or was it just hoping that the libyan jamahiriya military ( government ) would win and life would go on without too much trouble ??

1. The US didn't put any foreigners on its first space station Skylab, nor did Russia on Mir. Reason: if something goes wrong on your first try, and foreigners die, who gets blamed? Who takes responsibility? If only your own people die, they are heroes who sacrificed themselves for science (see Space Shuttle Challenger disaster), but if foreigners die on YOUR space station, how are you gonna spin that to make it sound like they were heroes? Their home governments would howl in protest at the minimum.

2. Chinese have been in Africa since 1970's building railroads, airports, etc. This is simply a continuation of that. My own father learned French because he wanted to help as a consultant on a chemical plant project in Africa back in the 1990's.

3. Chinese have had a non-intervention policy since 1950's. Mao said it best: 人不犯我,我不犯人。人若犯我,我必犯人。Don't mess with me, I don't mess with you, but if you mess with me, I'm gonna mess you up.
 
1. The US didn't put any foreigners on its first space station Skylab, nor did Russia on Mir. Reason: if something goes wrong on your first try, and foreigners die, who gets blamed? Who takes responsibility? If only your own people die, they are heroes who sacrificed themselves for science (see Space Shuttle Challenger disaster), but if foreigners die on YOUR space station, how are you gonna spin that to make it sound like they were heroes? Their home governments would howl in protest at the minimum.

1. skylab was a government/military project... i don't think they ever foresaw guests living on board, though yes, the americans themselves were not experienced in space station operation that much.

2. surely you mean "ussr" instead of russia.

3. mir was the last space station that ussr/russia operated independently.

4. mir had a few guest cosmonauts, including abdul ahad mohmand of afghanistan and rakesh sharma of india, both visiting in the 80's.

Abdul Ahad Mohmand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Rakesh Sharma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and abdul ahad mohmand was awarded "hero of the soviet union" for his help in averting a fire disaster on mir.

2. Chinese have been in Africa since 1970's building railroads, airports, etc. This is simply a continuation of that. My own father learned French because he wanted to help as a consultant on a chemical plant project in Africa back in the 1990's.

in the 70's and till the 90's, china would still have retained ideological involvement internationally at non-military level, and also for mutual benefit... i understand.

but presently, it is different scenario... wouldn't you agree ??

3. Chinese have had a non-intervention policy since 1950's. Mao said it best: 人不犯我,我不犯人。人若犯我,我必犯人。Don't mess with me, I don't mess with you, but if you mess with me, I'm gonna mess you up.

prc participated in korea war on the proper side.

and then it became non-internationalist militarily, at least to what i know of... you must tell me.
 
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I'm making this thread as an extension of that Che Guevara thread where comrade @jamahir had recommended me to open a new thread about socialism.

In that thread, I argued that the West is more communitarian and has more socialist values than a lot of Asian countries. I used my own country Viet Nam as an example. I will now extend that argument and say that a lot of Asian countries, including the ones that call themselves "socialist", exhibit many Fascist characteristics. I wanted to find an article about this on Viet Nam but I could only find ones that argue the same thing about China. But whatever arguments they put forward against China, it can also be applied to Viet Nam.

So here is the article:

Is China a fascist state? | openDemocracy




Let's discuss and keep this thread academic and intellectual. So no trolling please. To the mods, if there are trolling, then ban the trolls, don't just let them go free and delete my thread. If you don't ban them then that's perfectly fine to me, as I believe in free speech. Just don't use the trolls as an excuse to delete my thread.

I will keep this thread academic and will post academic sources if it becomes good. So welcome all to discuss. Let's start with the discussion topic "Is China (or Viet Nam or other Asian countries) a Fascist state?"

Is the author's definition of Fascism correct? If yes, does China fit that definition?

Comrade @jamahir and all the real socialists out there, come join this thread. Let's learn more about true socialism.


First few paragraphs from wikipedia on Fascism:

Fascism is a form of reactionary authoritarian nationalism that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe. Influenced by national syndicalism, fascism originated in Italy during World War I, in opposition to liberalism, Marxism, anarchism and traditional conservatism. Fascism is often placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum, but some academics call that description inadequate.

Fascists identify World War I as a revolution. It brought revolutionary changes in the nature of war, society, the state, and technology. The advent of total war and total mass mobilization of society had broken down the distinction between civilian and combatant. A "military citizenship" arose in which all citizens were involved with the military in some manner during the war. The war had resulted in the rise of a powerful state capable of mobilizing millions of people to serve on the front lines or provide economic production and logistics to support those on the front lines, as well as having unprecedented authority to intervene in the lives of citizens. Fascists view World War I as having made liberal democracy obsolete and regard total mobilization of society led by a totalitarian single-party state as necessary for a nation to be prepared for armed conflict and to respond effectively to economic difficulties, such a totalitarian state is led by a strong leader as a dictator and a martial government composed of the members of the governing fascist party to forge national unity and maintain a stable and orderly society. Fascism rejects assertions of violence automatically being negative in nature and views political violence, war, and imperialism as means that can achieve national rejuvenation.
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So no. China doesn't fit most of the key indicator for a fascist state. Granted, Fascism is a sub-branch of socialism where Chinese system also belong to, but then again monkeys and humans are also both primates.

If I had to classify China's political system, it is pretty much an Authoritarian Socialist-Confucian Oligarchy.

There is no one person to rule everything. Instead it is the Politburo. No dictatorship here. Many policies from both traditional Chinese culture and socialism are practiced. Indeed, traditional Chinese culture was the origin of socialism - 榷盐,榷铁, the salt and steel monopolies, were the first state owned enterprises in history. But the language of liberal socialism - of gender equality, ethnic equality, protection of labor - still enshrined in our laws.

Authoritarian yes, oligarchy no. While it is true that Chinese central government is very powerful and controls many aspects of the nation, to be an oligarchy would require the positions to be inheritable. Public positions can be very powerful, but that comes from authoritarianism which grants strong power to the government, but the very nature of public position means that they are not confined to a small group, which is key to the definition of oligarchy.
 

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