Iranian Nuke Bomb Possibly Only 6 Months Away

[waraich66]

Iranian Nuke Bomb Possibly Only 6 Months Away

June 8, 2009 - San Francisco, CA - PipeLineNews.org - Just a few days after president Obama reiterated Iran's "right" to nuclear power, "any nation, including Iran, should have the right to access peaceful nuclear power..." [source, http://www.whitehouse.gov/the_press_office/Remarks-by-the-President-at-Cairo-University-6-04-09/] nuke watchdogs including the International Atomic Energy Agency [IAEA], which has historically underplayed Iran's increasing nuclear capability are sounding the alarm, warning that the radical Iranian Muslim theocracy, "could, within three to six months, convert the material into a nuclear weapon, according to nuclear specialists." [source, http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/06/specialists-warn-possible-break-out-3-6-months/]

In a report delivered Friday, the IAEA declared that Iran's nuke research facility at Natanz was operating over 5,000 centrifuges which have so far produced nearly 3,000 pounds of low-level enriched uranium.

Investigators are concerned that this material could in what is being called a "breakout capability," further enrich the uranium into bomb-grade uranium 235.

According to estimates this process could yield sufficient fissionable material for weapons in as little as three to six months.

The reports directly contradict a politically manipulated 2007 Bush administration intelligence estimate which declared Iran's nuclear weapons program had been suspended.

Adding further tension, a second IAEA report was released later on Friday detailing the finding of uranium at a Syrian facility which might indicate that the renegade Mullah government could be stockpiling uranium in friendly countries in anticipation of a potential strike against its nuclear infrastructure.

News of the troubling IAEA findings were not widely reported by America's state controlled media.

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[H2O3C4Nitrogen]

the Iranians have the right to build wepons to adhere any force be it the Nuclear Wepons.
It will balance the power in middle east as Israel also have Nukes.

 

[waraich66]

the Iranians have the right to build wepons to adhere any force be it the Nuclear Wepons.
It will balance the power in middle east as Israel also have Nukes.

Are you sure they will not use against GCC?

 

[Durran3]

Are you sure they will not use against GCC?

They have no reason to use it against the GCC, use some common sense. Why would it possibly use a nuclear weapon against its neighboring arab countries none of whome pose anything threat to Iran especially not Militarily. If Iranians wanted a war against the Arabs they would have attacked them numerous times in the past but they haven't. The Iranians have never attacked any nation in over 200 years even the Iran-Iraq war was first struck by the Iraqi's and the Iraqi's were getting their arses handed to them on a plate when later they recieved a tremendous amount of aid from Saudi, Soviets and the United states which than gave them numerical advantage in every category and even than they didn't obtain any substantial gains what so ever.

The only Country Iran fears an existential threat from is Israel and the United States. Iran could care less about Saudi Arabia your acting as if Iran has a grudge against UAE and all its neighboring countries and seriously why would they possibly bomb Saudi, there is NO legitimate reason to do so the whole Muslim world would boycott Iran and No Iranian wants that. Use some common sense please, the only reason Iran wants nukes is to put Israel's threats back into its place

 

[waraich66]

They have no reason to use it against the GCC, use some common sense. Why would it possibly use a nuclear weapon against its neighboring arab countries none of whome pose anything threat to Iran especially not Militarily. If Iranians wanted a war against the Arabs they would have attacked them numerous times in the past but they haven't. The Iranians have never attacked any nation in over 200 years even the Iran-Iraq war was first struck by the Iraqi's and the Iraqi's were getting their arses handed to them on a plate when later they recieved a tremendous amount of aid from Saudi, Soviets and the United states which than gave them numerical advantage in every category and even than they didn't obtain any substantial gains what so ever.

The only Country Iran fears an existential threat from is Israel and the United States. Iran could care less about Saudi Arabia your acting as if Iran has a grudge against UAE and all its neighboring countries and seriously why would they possibly bomb Saudi, there is NO legitimate reason to do so the whole Muslim world would boycott Iran and No Iranian wants that. Use some common sense please, the only reason Iran wants nukes is to put Israel's threats back into its place

GCC countries clearly mentioned in media that they will develop nuke bomb if Iran will .

Israel at any cost dont want any arab nuke bomb , this is the real problem.I hope you got my point

 

[A1Kaid]

They have no reason to use it against the GCC, use some common sense. Why would it possibly use a nuclear weapon against its neighboring arab countries none of whome pose anything threat to Iran especially not Militarily. If Iranians wanted a war against the Arabs they would have attacked them numerous times in the past but they haven't. The Iranians have never attacked any nation in over 200 years even the Iran-Iraq war was first struck by the Iraqi's and the Iraqi's were getting their arses handed to them on a plate when later they recieved a tremendous amount of aid from Saudi, Soviets and the United states which than gave them numerical advantage in every category and even than they didn't obtain any substantial gains what so ever.

I suggest you learn about the Iran-Iraq War, Saddam Hussein in the beginning of the War was supplied by US and UK.

And it was not the Iraqis getting kicked it was the Iranians, they bled to death, Iranian army was pushed back miles and miles into Iranian territory. Iraqi army under Saddam pushed further and further in Iran. Iraqi army unleashed massive amounts of chemical weapons onto the Iranian army, Iranian fighters, and Iranian civilians.

At this time Iran did have a weak Army, and Iraq had the largest army in the Middle East numerically.Also Iran got so desperate that they used young boys as suicide bombers in their fight with Iraq. Yes there were some moments when Iraqi infantry lost battles and retreated, though Iraq maintained the offensive and was a lion in the fight.

I don't have times to get into the details, but one thing for sure is Iraq won the war hands down.


May want to visit this link buddy http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/iran-iraq.htm

"Although Iraq won the war militarily, and possessed a significant military advantage over Iran." -Global Security. Org



"Believing it could win the war merely by holding the line and inflicting unacceptable losses on the attacking Iranians, Iraq initially adopted a static defensive strategy. This was successful in repelling successive Iranian offensives until 1986 and 1987, when the Al-Faw peninsula was lost and Iranian troops reached the gates of Al-Basrah. Embarrassed by the loss of the peninsula and concerned by the threat to his second largest city, Saddam ordered a change in strategy. From a defensive posture, in which the only offensive operations were counterattacks to relieve forces under pressure or to exploit failed Iranian assaults, the Iraqis adopted an offensive strategy. More decision-making authority was delegated to senior military commanders. The change also indicated a maturing of Iraqi military capabilities and an improvement in the armed forces' effectiveness. The success of this new strategy, plus the attendant change in doctrine and procedures, virtually eliminated Iranian military capabilities.

As the war continued, Iran was increasingly short of spare parts for damaged airplanes and had lost a large number of airplanes in combat. As a result, by late 1987 Iran had become less able to mount an effective defense against the resupplied Iraqi air force, let alone stage aerial counterattacks."

 

[pak-marine]

Israel will do any thing to stop Iran developing those nukes ... If Iranians succeed in one i will give them 9 out of 10. Suprisingly the nuke projected birthday is same time as the occupation forces leaving Irak .... Hmmm i m just wondering is it a coincidence or another conspiracy theory. !?

 

[pak-marine]

I suggest you learn about the Iran-Iraq War, Saddam Hussein in the beginning of the War was supplied by US and UK.

And it was not the Iraqis getting kicked it was the Iranians, they bled to death, Iranian army was pushed back miles and miles into Iranian territory. Iraqi army under Saddam pushed further and further in Iran. Iraqi army unleashed massive amounts of chemical weapons onto the Iranian army, Iranian fighters, and Iranian civilians.

At this time Iran did have a weak Army, and Iraq had the largest army in the Middle East numerically.Also Iran got so desperate that they used young boys as suicide bombers in their fight with Iraq. Yes there were some moments when Iraqi infantry lost battles and retreated, though Iraq maintained the offensive and was a lion in the fight.

I don't have times to get into the details, but one thing for sure is Iraq won the war hands down.


May want to visit this link buddy Iran-Iraq War (1980-1988)

"Although Iraq won the war militarily, and possessed a significant military advantage over Iran." -Global Security. Org



"Believing it could win the war merely by holding the line and inflicting unacceptable losses on the attacking Iranians, Iraq initially adopted a static defensive strategy. This was successful in repelling successive Iranian offensives until 1986 and 1987, when the Al-Faw peninsula was lost and Iranian troops reached the gates of Al-Basrah. Embarrassed by the loss of the peninsula and concerned by the threat to his second largest city, Saddam ordered a change in strategy. From a defensive posture, in which the only offensive operations were counterattacks to relieve forces under pressure or to exploit failed Iranian assaults, the Iraqis adopted an offensive strategy. More decision-making authority was delegated to senior military commanders. The change also indicated a maturing of Iraqi military capabilities and an improvement in the armed forces' effectiveness. The success of this new strategy, plus the attendant change in doctrine and procedures, virtually eliminated Iranian military capabilities.

As the war continued, Iran was increasingly short of spare parts for damaged airplanes and had lost a large number of airplanes in combat. As a result, by late 1987 Iran had become less able to mount an effective defense against the resupplied Iraqi air force, let alone stage aerial counterattacks."

Not sure about the results but dont forget during iran - irak war Iraqis and the hero sadam was supported by a lot of countries esp mighty us and europe where as Iran stood alone ! i will give Iran 8 of ten as no matter what was the cost but they defended their country sucessfully , and same Sadam look what happened to him ....Iranians are realistic they know western support is hippocracy and wont help them in long run ... so over the years they managed to turn themselves into a self sustained nation. I am just surprised they are under so many sanctions from decades and stil can survive and develop millitarliy.

 

[Durran3]

I suggest you learn about the Iran-Iraq War, Saddam Hussein in the beginning of the War was supplied by US and UK.

And it was not the Iraqis getting kicked it was the Iranians, they bled to death, Iranian army was pushed back miles and miles into Iranian territory. Iraqi army under Saddam pushed further and further in Iran. Iraqi army unleashed massive amounts of chemical weapons onto the Iranian army, Iranian fighters, and Iranian civilians.

I never said Iran won the war read my post carefully, i said Iraqi's were getting their arses handed to them when LATER the Iraqi's started receiving Money from Saudi Arabia, weapons and ammunition from United States as well as the Soviets (far from being lions that you claim Iraqi's to be when they are being helped by 1 Regional Economic power and 3 Major Military Superpowers).

It was after this help that Iraq substantially gained strategic and military Superiority even THAN they didn't accomplish what they were set out to do. Iran was all alone in this fight and even than they were able to still hold their own against a military that was being supported by Soviets, Americans, Brits and the Saudi's, it was Iraq that was taking advantage of the weak Iranian regime that had just recently come out of a revolution.

Iraq invaded in 1982, their initial offensive was mediocre at best and Iran completely Dominated the Air. Not only did they have better Pilots they also had better Anti Aircraft systems compared to the soviet made that Iraqi's were using. It was from 1982 to 1984 (correct me if i am wrong) that Iraq faced numerous defeats on many different fronts like Susangerd, Khuzestan they also went ahead and regained Khorramshahr that was lost when Iraq's offensive began in 1981 if i am not mistaken. It was after these numerous defeates that Saddam started crying and wanted to Negotiate Peace deals again.

Saddams intention of overthrowing Tehran was turned into smithereens after 1984 and he completely went on a defensive. His idea was to capture as much Iranian territory as possible, he failed and went ahead with just defending what was inside Iraq and than started begging for diplomacy (so much for being a lion). You mess with someone with the intentions of taking whats his and than you go on a defensive and start protecting whats yours... Cowards to say the least and when Iran said fcuk off it was THAN THAT SADDAM the lion begged the Superpowers to help him defeat the Iranians.. on top of that Saddam started borrowing French Aircrafts to get the job done lol.

May want to visit this link buddy Iran-Iraq War (1980-1988)

"Although Iraq won the war militarily, and possessed a significant military advantage over Iran." -Global Security. Org

You fail to put down How!!! Its actually quiet similar to the 1965 Pakistan, India War. The Indians went in with the intentions of having a nice cup of tea in Gymkhana only to be sent back to where they started!! Same thing happened to Iraq.. Iran Defended.. it still exists.. Thus it won the war.. Iraq went in their to capture as much Iranian Territory it could, it failed, it didn't topple Iran in any way or form infact IRAN came out a much stronger country than Iraq both politically and economically later down the years and look at where Iran is and where Iraq is right now..Saddam wanted help from the US, the US sure as hell gave it him.

Iran doesn't go begging for help from other countries, it does what it does to survive even though i don't agree with their form of government.

 

[A1Kaid]

Not sure about the results but dont forget during iran - irak war Iraqis and the hero sadam was supported by a lot of countries esp mighty us and europe where as Iran stood alone ! i will give Iran 8 of ten as no matter what was the cost but they defended their country sucessfully , and same Sadam look what happened to him ....Iranians are realistic they know western support is hippocracy and wont help them in long run ... so over the years they managed to turn themselves into a self sustained nation. I am just surprised they are under so many sanctions from decades and stil can survive and develop millitarliy.

You know I really find this to be one of the biggest Myths about the Iran-Iraq War. When Iranians proclaim they stood alone in the Iraq-Iran War. Don't forget Syria and Libya were some of the few Arab countries that supported Iran during the War. Israel is also said to have supported Iran during the war to help bring down the Saddam Hussein regime (which was seen as a bigger threat to Israel than Iran at the time).


The map below seems to be quite accurate, could contain some flaws.

Source: Map of the Iran-Iraq War



"In its war effort, Iran was supported by Syria and Libya, and received much of its weaponry from North Korea and China, as well as from covert arms transactions from the United States."

Source: Iran-Iraq War — Infoplease.com



The US also secretly provided Iran with aid, that's right US was secretly aiding both sides Iran and Iraq in a manipulative way. one of the biggest myths of the Iran-Iraq war is that Iran fought all alone while Iraq had support from a wide variety countries.




Sorry for derailing this thread, but the history of the Iran-Iraq war is interesting.

 

[xebex]

the Iranians have the right to build wepons to adhere any force be it the Nuclear Wepons.
It will balance the power in middle east as Israel also have Nukes.

Do u really think it would bring balance to the region when there are Jihadis and suicidebombers roaming around left and right of Iran's western and eastern borders.

 

[A1Kaid]

You fail to put down How!!! Its actually quiet similar to the 1965 Pakistan, India War. The Indians went in with the intentions of having a nice cup of tea in Gymkhana only to be sent back to where they started!! Same thing happened to Iraq.. Iran Defended.. it still exists.. Thus it won the war.. Iraq went in their to capture as much Iranian Territory it could, it failed, it didn't topple Iran in any way or form infact IRAN came out a much stronger country than Iraq both politically and economically later down the years and look at where Iran is and where Iraq is right now..Saddam wanted help from the US, the US sure as hell gave it him.

Iran doesn't go begging for help from other countries, it does it does to survive even though i don't agree with their governments..

You seem angry and emotional...


Why are you so angry? "Here have some Murree with your Curry"..

Edit: Come on Buddy have a laugh.

 

[Durran3]

No i am not angry.. if i was i would have written it in caps lol..

With that being said.. Libya, Syria cmon A1kaid lets be realistic here!! compare that to Saudi Money, French Aircrafts, US and UK military support, soviet tanks and artillery and still failing your major objective.. quiet embarrassing if you ask me

With that being said the topic being discussed is pretty irrelevant to the topic at hand.. Lets stick to that.. and No Iran will not use nukes against the GCC..

 

[pak-marine]

"In its war effort, Iran was supported by Syria and Libya, and received much of its weaponry from North Korea and China, as well as from covert arms transactions from the United States."

Ok lets suppose what u pointing here is the truth but Iraq getting supported by saudi money + USA And USSR (Russia) i.e mega power and Iran backed by syria or Libya ... l! its like saying during current time for eg India & Pak at war and India getting support from USA and Russia where as pak is supported by Srilanka and Afghanistan .. !




The US also secretly provided Iran with aid, that's right US was secretly aiding both sides Iran and Iraq in a manipulative way. one of the biggest myths of the Iran-Iraq war is that Iran fought all alone while Iraq had support from a wide variety countries.

Refer above replies there is a huge different between getting support from super powers and getting support from no power.. Why will US supply Iran with arms ? there is no logic here except may be they wanted to screw Iran more by getting rid of some scrap they have lyin in the warehouses.