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Iran and Russia to co-op in shipbuilding, aviation & automobile

Iran and Russia to co-op in shipbuilding, aviation & automobile

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Fatemi Amin made the remarks while speaking to reporters upon his arrival in Moscow.

He travelled to Russia with the aim of participating in the Russian automobile exhibition and signing economic MoUs.

He said that the relations between Iran and Russia have been growing, and this growth is more evident in the last year and has entered a new phase.

Referring to the start of exporting gas turbines and technological products to Russia, he announced the possibility of signing economic memoranda in Russia.

Several issues will be pursued during this trip, the most important of which is the start of joint cooperation in the field of shipbuilding, aviation, and automotive industries, he added.

He also pointed to the presence of 50 Iranian companies in MIMS Automobility Moscow, saying that the grounds have been paved for starting joint cooperation between Iranian and Russian companies that are active in this field.

He stated that two Iranian cars "Tara" and "Shahin" will be showcased in MIMS Automobility Moscow.

 
Those cars looks really good, how they are positioned in terms of safety, electronics and additional equioment in comparation with western brands?

Working class Iraqis are very fond of (one of) the least expensive cars manufactured in Iran, Saipa's license produced version of Kia Pride. They gladly pay the price tag (6000 USD) and, as per Iraqi law, the equivalent of another thousand USD to register the car. After years, many Iraqis continue to opt for the Saipa over Chinese budget cars. They're highly satisfied with it, because it does the job they're expecting it to do.
 
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I have a broader question, in these times of turmoils who needs who more among Russia-China-Iran ?
 
I have a broader question, in these times of turmoils who needs who more among Russia-China-Iran ?
All 3 countries have resources they can exchange with each other. If they recognise and acknowledge this potential opportunity, they can give birth to the best barter system in modern history.
 
All 3 countries have resources they can exchange with each other. If they recognise and acknowledge this potential opportunity, they can give birth to the best barter system in modern history.

... or in simple words, destroy the USD in the region.
 
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Iran and Russia to co-op in shipbuilding, aviation & automobile

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Fatemi Amin made the remarks while speaking to reporters upon his arrival in Moscow.

He travelled to Russia with the aim of participating in the Russian automobile exhibition and signing economic MoUs.

He said that the relations between Iran and Russia have been growing, and this growth is more evident in the last year and has entered a new phase.

Referring to the start of exporting gas turbines and technological products to Russia, he announced the possibility of signing economic memoranda in Russia.

Several issues will be pursued during this trip, the most important of which is the start of joint cooperation in the field of shipbuilding, aviation, and automotive industries, he added.

He also pointed to the presence of 50 Iranian companies in MIMS Automobility Moscow, saying that the grounds have been paved for starting joint cooperation between Iranian and Russian companies that are active in this field.

He stated that two Iranian cars "Tara" and "Shahin" will be showcased in MIMS Automobility Moscow.

that's cool

Iran can cooperate with Russia in the field of spare points
If the industry in the two countries lacks an element or technology, experience, information and technology can be exchanged
Iran needs superalloys for gas turbines and turbofans
In return, Russia needs German turbine design
And so in the field of ships and cars...etc
 
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Translation: Cooperation between Iran and Russia in the aviation industry
During the meeting of "Boginsky", the Deputy Minister of Industry of Russia for Aviation Affairs and the officials of the Ministry of Security, it was decided that the parties will sign an official memorandum on the development of infrastructure necessary for cooperation between Iran and Russia in the field of aircraft and helicopter manufacturing and repairs.

The Russian delegation will also visit Iran's aviation and defense industries during their stay in the country. The Deputy Minister of Aviation Industry of Russia also mentioned the establishment of a joint engineering center in Iran and said: This center should be established based on the production of a specific product whose final production is beneficial for both parties.

 

The Caspian Sea Is a Sanctions-Busting Paradise

Ghost voyages and dark port calls by Russian and Iranian vessels are enabling both countries to circumvent Western sanctions and thrive in a shadow economy.​


August 14, 2023, 7:21 AM/By Elisabeth Braw, a columnist at Foreign Policy and a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute
https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/08/14/russia-iran-caspian-sea-sanctions-busting-paradise/?tpcc=recirc_trending062921.

While everyone is watching the latest drama unfold in the Black Sea, mysterious shipping journeys are taking place in the Caspian Sea. The massive lake—the world’s largest—is bordered by Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Azerbaijan, Russia, and Iran. And these days, the ocean-like sea is the scene of enormous volumes of hush-hush shipping involving primarily Russian and Iranian vessels.
The past three months have each seen more than 600 AIS gaps by Russian-flagged vessels alone, up from just over 100 per month during the same period last year. (AIS is the automatic identification system, which virtually all commercial vessels are obliged to use; AIS gaps are the periods of time when a vessel’s system stops transmitting.) Russian and Iranian vessels traveling between the two countries are also conducting dark port calls—calling at ports with their AIS switched off—and some are even spoofing their location. Russia is entering the shadow economy.
On a recent day, 12 vessels traveling between Russia and Iran in the Caspian Sea were conducting dark port calls. (All were owned by Russian or Iranian entities, flying under Russian or Iranian flag, or both.)
The vessels clearly wanted the outside world to know as little as possible about their presence in those ports—and there’s no global maritime police force that makes sure vessels obey rules and regulations. To be sure, over the years, various ships that were up to no good have turned off their AIS—but when it happens at large scale, involving one of the world’s most powerful countries, it undermines the maritime rules that make global shipping possible.
Indeed, on the same randomly selected day when 12 vessels were making dark port calls, 12 others were conducting ship-to-ship transfers, a maneuver that is perfectly innocuous when it involves a large vessel and a smaller one that can call on smaller ports but is also common among ships trying to obfuscate their journeys.

And that’s just one part of the mystery that shrouds shipping on the Caspian Sea these days. In May, 138 Russian-flagged ships sailing on the Caspian produced 657 gaps in their AIS. In June, there were 625 such gaps involving 160 vessels, and in July there were at least 630 involving 157 vessels, according to data provided by Lloyd’s List Intelligence. That’s four times as many AIS gaps as during May, June, and July last year, when Russia-flagged ships on the Caspian Sea went dark 159, 135, and 138 times, respectively.
In May this year, 48 Iranian-flagged vessels had 199 AIS gaps; in June, 48 Iranian vessels had 218 gaps, and in July 47 vessels had 192 gaps. That’s a few more vessels per month than during the same time last year—and about twice as many AIS gaps. A significant number of the AIS-gap vessels were traveling between Russian and Iranian ports.
By comparison, Azerbaijani, Kazakh, and Turkmen ships traveling in the Caspian Sea had very few AIS gaps. They seem to be following the rules—for now. But if they decided they wanted to obscure their activities, it would be hard to stop them.
Even though ships traveling between Russia and Iran don’t have to worry about inspections, they clearly prefer to travel surreptitiously. That may be because business is growing.
Indeed, the Russian and Iranian AIS gaps are not just the accidental kind caused by technical problems or the weather: Between 149 and 169 of them lasted four to seven days, and 50 to 92 lasted between eight and 14 days.
“In its rhetoric Russia has been pushing this route, and to some extent the Russians know they’re being watched,” said Bridget Diakun, the Lloyd’s List data analyst who conducted the analysis for Foreign Policy. “The Caspian Sea is really convenient for trade with Iran, and the Russians can bring ships there from the Sea of Azov. It seems they’re trying to hide elements of their activity, whatever that activity may be. Using AIS alone, we can’t see what exactly they’re doing, but the Caspian Sea is busier than it used to be.”
Indeed, the AIS gaps are not the only constant feature involving Russian and Iranian ships in the Caspian Sea these days. Between May to July, my research assistant, Katherine Camberg, identified regular dark port calls and ship-to-ship transfers involving Russian or Iranian vessels—often in the double digits. Things in the Caspian Sea “are just very weird right now,” Diakun concluded.
Then there’s spoofing, the practice of setting the AIS to broadcast a false position. On the same randomly selected day that saw 12 Russian and Iranian vessels conducting dark port calls and 12 others conducting ship-to-ship transfers, four Russian and Iranian vessels were spoofing their location to make it look as if they were stationary in a port off the Caspian Sea when they were, in fact, sailing some distance away in the Caspian.
Even though ships traversing the Caspian Sea between Russia and Iran don’t have to worry about inconvenient inspections in Russian or Iranian ports, they clearly think it advisable to travel surreptitiously. That may be because their business is growing. Before its invasion of Ukraine, Russia didn’t have much need for trade with Iran. In 2020, it exported a little more than $1.4 billion worth of goods to Iran and imported goods for nearly $800 million. (No, the figure was not a result of COVID-19: In the three years before that, trade between the two countries was even lower.) Then, in 2021, it leaped to Russian exports of more than $3 billion and imports of nearly $1 billion.

Since then, the Ukraine war has also turned Iran into a much-needed supplier of weapons to Russia. In June, Russia said it expects a free-trade agreement with Iran and other countries in Eurasia to be signed by the end of the year, and Iran says it counts on “huge volumes” of oil and gas swaps with Russia. But most of the vessels making clandestine journeys aren’t tankers but cargo vessels. In July, for example, 20 of the vessels that sailed off the radar during their journeys were tankers transporting oil and chemical products, while 129 were cargo vessels, the Lloyd’s List Intelligence data shows. So what are the vessels transporting, and why are they so eager for their activities to remain shrouded in mystery?
The mysterious journeys on the Caspian Sea are an apt illustration of today’s Russian economy. Just a couple of years ago, Russia was an established member of the globalized economy, albeit one under various Western sanctions. In June 2021, the United States still exported $536.6 million worth of goods to Russia and imported goods for $2.7 billion. Today, Russia is shut out of trading with the world’s most advanced economies. In June this year, the United States imported Russian goods worth $411.7 million and exported goods for a mere $30.9 million.
Russian companies have definitely managed to strengthen their relationships with countries such as China, India, and Turkey: In 2022, Russia imported twice as much from Turkey as it did in 2021. But Russia also has to trade more with outcasts like Iran—and it has to behave like them, too.
Expect many more dark journeys and port calls in the Caspian Sea, many more ship-to-ship transfers, and more AIS spoofing. Yes, Russia has managed to occupy and hold parts of Ukraine since it launched its invasion 18 months ago, but trading as a pariah is desperately cumbersome.
 
Please forget Russia, Russia is a country of the past.

Believe in Iranian power, iran only needs to get rid of some diplomats that are stucking iranian military progress for the sake of international balance.

Get rid of weaker minds, do whatever must be done, get nukes and get ICBMs already and foreget Russia, want to be the next Syria????? look at Syria Russia has done nothing to defend Syrians in spite to receive a lot of favours and tartus port...

Forget Russia, create an internal economy, you are not a desert country, divide the country in 2 people, scientific and non scientific people, sicentific people sells things to non scientific people, and non scientific people sells food to scientific people. Do it, don t believe international trade, Iran is going to be very sanctionated before Iran is capable to force and impose sanctions to itnernational bullies in strait hormuz.

Please it s not difficult to understand, Iran is not an stupid average country, and has to create conditions lo lead the region and be a resolute superpower.
 
Please forget Russia, Russia is a country of the past.

Believe in Iranian power, iran only needs to get rid of some diplomats that are stucking iranian military progress for the sake of international balance.

Get rid of weaker minds, do whatever must be done, get nukes and get ICBMs already and foreget Russia, want to be the next Syria????? look at Syria Russia has done nothing to defend Syrians in spite to receive a lot of favours and tartus port...

Forget Russia, create an internal economy, you are not a desert country, divide the country in 2 people, scientific and non scientific people, sicentific people sells things to non scientific people, and non scientific people sells food to scientific people. Do it, don t believe international trade, Iran is going to be very sanctionated before Iran is capable to force and impose sanctions to itnernational bullies in strait hormuz.

Please it s not difficult to understand, Iran is not an stupid average country, and has to create conditions lo lead the region and be a resolute superpower.
very interesting interview in Izvestia (Russia) with the ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Iran to the Russian Federation, Kazem Jalali.
He talks about the many sectors where Iran-Russia cooperation can be expanded, including the automotive and aviation sectors.
The article is in Russian, but with "traslate" or another automatic translator it can be understood very well
https://iz.ru/1557717/valentin-logi...e-polnostiu-gotovy-otmenit-vizy-dlia-rossiian
 
very interesting interview in Izvestia (Russia) with the ambassador of the Islamic Republic of Iran to the Russian Federation, Kazem Jalali.
He talks about the many sectors where Iran-Russia cooperation can be expanded, including the automotive and aviation sectors.
The article is in Russian, but with "traslate" or another automatic translator it can be understood very well
https://iz.ru/1557717/valentin-logi...e-polnostiu-gotovy-otmenit-vizy-dlia-rossiian

Enough talk, show ACTUAL results. China and Russia have been “talking” about expanding ties for two decades.

Talk is cheap, MOU’s are worthless = need to see actual results.
 
Enough talk, show ACTUAL results. China and Russia have been “talking” about expanding ties for two decades.

Talk is cheap, MOU’s are worthless = need to see actual results.
It's not as easy as snapping your fingers, but already in the automotive sector, Iran has returned to the Russian market with components and whole vehicles.
In the civil aeronautics sector, collaboration is taking its first steps and the sending of a commercial aircraft for repair to Iran is indicative (probably also to evaluate the quality of the work), the supply of spare parts will be forthcoming collaboration, for aircraft civilians on one side and military on the other for fighter planes.
The aeronautical sector is very delicate, even more so the one that operates in the civil transport sector and certainly Iran and Russia could establish a fruitful collaboration that satisfies both.
In the trade and tourism sector, I think everything will be easier.
The two nations have no common land borders, but the Caspian Sea allows and will enable direct trade, facilitating trade.
I have a proverb that says: if they are roses they will bloom, if they are thorns they will sting.
therefore it is up to the two governments to decide whether the future will be roses or thorns.
For the good and well-being of the two countries I would opt for roses.
 
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