India's nuclear record better, but Pakistan also needs NSG: China

[ranjeet]

Despite India's "cleaner record compared to Pakistan", no discrimination should be made while considering their bids to join the 48-nation Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG), a Communist Party of China official said here on Tuesday.

Ma Xiangwu at the 19th Asian Security Conference at the Institute of Defence Studies and Analyses (IDSA) said the position of the two countries was "similiar" and both should be given a chance to be part of the elite grouping that controls global atomic commercial activities and technology transfers.

"India and Pakistan position on this issue is similar, if China can vote for India, then why Pakistan cannot be voted in? Pakistan is a friend... It should also be given an opportunity to be voted in," Ma said.

"There should be no discrimination between the two," he said, reiterating China's known argument that has saddled India's NSG bid with the bad track record of Pakistan. That country has allegedly been caught selling atomic weapons technology to Libya.

Asked about India's record on proliferation, Ma acknowledged that "India has a cleaner record compared to Pakistan" but quickly added that "China has its own position, which is consistent."

Beijing opposes India's inclusion in the NSG on the ground that India has not signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty. New members in the grouping are admitted largely if they agree to be part of the NPT or Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty (CTBT). India has signed neither on the ground that the treaties are discriminatory.

Speaking on the border dispute between India and China, Ma said it was "a tricky issue on which there should be a good negotiation between the two countries".

"We need to understand what India wants and what China wants."

Calling negotiations as "the best approach", Ma suggested if India was offering some goodwill at the start of the negotiation, then China will start negotiating.

"It's all about peaceful negotiation to reach objective. China believes that India should make a wise political decision," he added.

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[Srinivas]

Super comedy !

If china thinks India and Pakistan needs nsg then it should vote for both nations. Rather than doing pathetic diplomacy and giving irrational reasons for their veto against India.

 

[egodoc222]

Super comedy !

If china thinks India and Pakistan needs nsg then it should vote for both nations. Rather than doing pathetic diplomacy and giving irrational reasons for their veto against India.

Yeah....China is good at many things but diplomacy is not their forte!!

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Super comedy !

If china thinks India and Pakistan needs nsg then it should vote for both nations. Rather than doing pathetic diplomacy and giving irrational reasons for their veto against India.

Exactly, it should vote for both and lets others decide which country should be entered. let Pakistan do its own diplomacy for getting into the NSG by getting approvals from other.

China is taking its position in these world bodies to stall India's entry using Pakistan as proxy. They know, once India is in, it would not be cake walk for China and Pakistan on world matters.

 

[shahbaz baig]

Despite India's "cleaner record compared to Pakistan",

Uranium smuggling is common in India then Pakistan where no one can reach to sale Uranium.
what a cleaner record compared to pakistan

 

[nik141993]

then vote for both ,what are they afraid off

Uranium smuggling is common in India then Pakistan where no one can reach to sale Uranium.
what a cleaner record compared to pakistan

world work differently to Pakistani bed time fantasies I am afraid

 

[BABA AGHORI]

Uranium smuggling is common in India then Pakistan where no one can reach to sale Uranium.
what a cleaner record compared to pakistan

Yes Sir, that's why one of the two countries was termed as Nuclear wallmart by the world...

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Uranium smuggling is common in India then Pakistan where no one can reach to sale Uranium.
what a cleaner record compared to pakistan

You are laughing at your Chinese friend 'Ma'. LOL

 

[shahbaz baig]

Yes Sir, that's why one of the two countries was termed as Nuclear wallmart by the world...

No Sir, U.N should take action against india, instead of giving a place in NSG

 

[Maler]

No Sir, U.N should take action against india, instead of giving a place in NSG

It is depleted uranium......depleted.....dep..leted.......depleted.......It can't be used to produce even a dirty 'bum', let alone a nuclear 'bum' and at most you can produce some Anti-Armour shells with this.

These type of cheap videos can help you score some browny points here on Pakistani Forum, but nothing else!!!!!

 

[BABA AGHORI]

No Sir, U.N should take action against india, instead of giving a place in NSG

Sir, Do you know what is depleted uranium and enriched uranium, a simple CT scan machine in your neighborhood is more dangerous than yellow cake.
I will avoid pasting links about nuclear wallmart.. you can google it and enlighten yourself.

 

[T90TankGuy]

No Sir, U.N should take action against india, instead of giving a place in NSG

Stop making a fool of your self , at least read up on the things you post.

 

[SHAH820]

there is a reason why china wont vote for india

Super comedy !

If china thinks India and Pakistan needs nsg then it should vote for both nations. Rather than doing pathetic diplomacy and giving irrational reasons for their veto against India.

Yeah....China is good at many things but diplomacy is not their forte!!

Exactly, it should vote for both and lets others decide which country should be entered. let Pakistan do its own diplomacy for getting into the NSG by getting approvals from other.

China is taking its position in these world bodies to stall India's entry using Pakistan as proxy. They know, once India is in, it would not be cake walk for China and Pakistan on world matters.

then vote for both ,what are they afraid off


world work differently to Pakistani bed time fantasies I am afraid

You are laughing at your Chinese friend 'Ma'. LOL

April 2011 Fire alarms blare in the control room of the Kaiga Generating Station in Karnataka. Comments by officials alternately say there was no fire, that there was only smoke and no fire, and that the fire was not in a sensitive area (2). Details from the AERB are awaited.

November 2009 Fifty-five employees consume radioactive material after tritiated water finds its way into the drinking water cooler in Kaiga Generating Station. The NPCIL attributes the incident to “an insider’s mischief” (3).

April 2003 Six tonnes leak of heavy water at reactor II of the Narora Atomic Power Station (NAPS) in Uttar Pradesh (4), indicating safety measures have not been improved from the leak at the same reactor three years previously.

January 2003 Failure of a valve in the Kalpakkam Atomic Reprocessing Plant in Tamil Nadu results in the release of high-level waste, exposing six workers to high doses of radiation (5). The leaking area of the plant had no radiation monitors or mechanisms to detect valve failure, which may have prevented the employees’ exposure. A safety committee had previously recommended that the plant be shut down. The management blames the “over enthusiasm” of the workers (6).

May 2002 Tritiated water leaks from a downgraded heavy water storage tank at the tank farm of Rajasthan Atomic Power Station (RAPS) 1&2 into a common dyke area. An estimated 22.2 Curies of radioactivity is released into the environment (7).

November 2001 A leak of 1.4 tonnes of heavy water at the NAPS I reactor, resulting in one worker receiving an internal radiation dose of 18.49 mSv (8).

April 2000 Leak of about seven tonnes of heavy water from the moderator system at NAPS Unit II. Various workers involved in the clean-up received ‘significant uptakes of tritium’, although only one had a radiation dose over the recommended annual limit (9).

March 1999 Somewhere between four and fourteen tonnes (10) of heavy water leaks from the pipes at Madras Atomic Power Station (MAPS) at Kalpakkam, Tamil Nadu, during a test process. The pipes have a history of cracks and vibration problems (11) . Forty-two people are reportedly involved in mopping up the radioactive liquid (12).

May 1994 The inner surface of the containment dome of Unit I of Kaiga Generating Station collapses (delaminates) while the plant is under construction. Approximately 130 tonnes of concrete fall from a height of nearly thirty metres (13), injuring fourteen workers. The dome had already been completed (14), forming the part of the reactor designed to prevent escape of radioactive material into the environment in the case of an accident. Fortunately, the core had not then been loaded.

February 1994 Helium gas and heavy water leak in Unit 1 of RAPS. The plant is shut down until March 1997 (15).

March 1993 Two blades of the turbine in NAPS Unit I break off, slicing through other blades and indirectly causing a raging fire, which catches onto leaked oil and spreads through the turbine building. The smoke sensors fail to detect the fire, which is only noticed once workers see the flames. It causes a blackout in the plant, including the shutdown of the secondary cooling systems, and power is not restored for seventeen hours. In the meantime, operators have to manually activate the primary shutdown system. They also climb onto the roof to open valves to slow the reactions in the core by hand (16). The incident was rated as a Level 3 on the International Nuclear Event Scale, INES.

May 1992 Tube leak causes a radioactive release of 12 Curies of radioactivity from Tarapur Atomic Power Station (17).

January 1992 Four tons of heavy water spilt at RAPS (17).

December 1991 A leak from pipelines in the vicinity of CIRUS and Dhruva research reactors at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) in Trombay, Maharashtra, results in severe Cs-137 soil contamination of thousands of times the acceptable limit. Local vegetation was also found to be contaminated, though contract workers digging to the leaking pipeline were reportedly not tested for radiation exposure, despite the evidence of their high dose (18).

July 1991 A contracted labourer mistakenly paints the walls of RAPS with heavy water before applying a coat of whitewash. He also washed his paintbrush, face and hands in the deuterated and tritiated water, and has not been traced since (19).

March 1991 Heavy water leak at MAPS takes four days to clean up (20).

all this compare to

The KANUPP Karachi nuclear power plant imposed a seven-hour emergency after heavy water leaked from a feeder pipe to the reactor. The leakage took place during a routine maintenance shut down, and the emergency was lifted seven hours later, after the affected area was isolated.

 

[egodoc222]

there is a reason why china wont vote for india




April 2011 Fire alarms blare in the control room of the Kaiga Generating Station in Karnataka. Comments by officials alternately say there was no fire, that there was only smoke and no fire, and that the fire was not in a sensitive area (2). Details from the AERB are awaited.

November 2009 Fifty-five employees consume radioactive material after tritiated water finds its way into the drinking water cooler in Kaiga Generating Station. The NPCIL attributes the incident to “an insider’s mischief” (3).

April 2003 Six tonnes leak of heavy water at reactor II of the Narora Atomic Power Station (NAPS) in Uttar Pradesh (4), indicating safety measures have not been improved from the leak at the same reactor three years previously.

January 2003 Failure of a valve in the Kalpakkam Atomic Reprocessing Plant in Tamil Nadu results in the release of high-level waste, exposing six workers to high doses of radiation (5). The leaking area of the plant had no radiation monitors or mechanisms to detect valve failure, which may have prevented the employees’ exposure. A safety committee had previously recommended that the plant be shut down. The management blames the “over enthusiasm” of the workers (6).

May 2002 Tritiated water leaks from a downgraded heavy water storage tank at the tank farm of Rajasthan Atomic Power Station (RAPS) 1&2 into a common dyke area. An estimated 22.2 Curies of radioactivity is released into the environment (7).

November 2001 A leak of 1.4 tonnes of heavy water at the NAPS I reactor, resulting in one worker receiving an internal radiation dose of 18.49 mSv (8).

April 2000 Leak of about seven tonnes of heavy water from the moderator system at NAPS Unit II. Various workers involved in the clean-up received ‘significant uptakes of tritium’, although only one had a radiation dose over the recommended annual limit (9).

March 1999 Somewhere between four and fourteen tonnes (10) of heavy water leaks from the pipes at Madras Atomic Power Station (MAPS) at Kalpakkam, Tamil Nadu, during a test process. The pipes have a history of cracks and vibration problems (11) . Forty-two people are reportedly involved in mopping up the radioactive liquid (12).

May 1994 The inner surface of the containment dome of Unit I of Kaiga Generating Station collapses (delaminates) while the plant is under construction. Approximately 130 tonnes of concrete fall from a height of nearly thirty metres (13), injuring fourteen workers. The dome had already been completed (14), forming the part of the reactor designed to prevent escape of radioactive material into the environment in the case of an accident. Fortunately, the core had not then been loaded.

February 1994 Helium gas and heavy water leak in Unit 1 of RAPS. The plant is shut down until March 1997 (15).

March 1993 Two blades of the turbine in NAPS Unit I break off, slicing through other blades and indirectly causing a raging fire, which catches onto leaked oil and spreads through the turbine building. The smoke sensors fail to detect the fire, which is only noticed once workers see the flames. It causes a blackout in the plant, including the shutdown of the secondary cooling systems, and power is not restored for seventeen hours. In the meantime, operators have to manually activate the primary shutdown system. They also climb onto the roof to open valves to slow the reactions in the core by hand (16). The incident was rated as a Level 3 on the International Nuclear Event Scale, INES.

May 1992 Tube leak causes a radioactive release of 12 Curies of radioactivity from Tarapur Atomic Power Station (17).

January 1992 Four tons of heavy water spilt at RAPS (17).

December 1991 A leak from pipelines in the vicinity of CIRUS and Dhruva research reactors at the Bhabha Atomic Research Centre (BARC) in Trombay, Maharashtra, results in severe Cs-137 soil contamination of thousands of times the acceptable limit. Local vegetation was also found to be contaminated, though contract workers digging to the leaking pipeline were reportedly not tested for radiation exposure, despite the evidence of their high dose (18).

July 1991 A contracted labourer mistakenly paints the walls of RAPS with heavy water before applying a coat of whitewash. He also washed his paintbrush, face and hands in the deuterated and tritiated water, and has not been traced since (19).

March 1991 Heavy water leak at MAPS takes four days to clean up (20).

all this compare to

The KANUPP Karachi nuclear power plant imposed a seven-hour emergency after heavy water leaked from a feeder pipe to the reactor. The leakage took place during a routine maintenance shut down, and the emergency was lifted seven hours later, after the affected area was isolated.

Kid...don't stress yourself...clearly you have no clue of the topic at hand....take a chill pill!!

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

Diplomacy is not really Chinese forte. What an idiotic comment.