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While our idiotic print and electronic media is busy in election discussion how sicularism is in danger in Modi's victory, a highly significant economic event went almost unnoticed. In last couple of days, Rupee has appreciated by 2% against USD. While people are foolishly arguing that India shall become a 5 TR USD economy in coming 10 years, I have always maintained on various forum that you guys are taking into account only Growth rate and Ignore the currency appreciation. India Rupee is valued almost 4 time lower that its purchase power and it offers a great chance of currency appreciation. In last 2 days INR has jumped from RS 66.80 a USD to 65.43 a USD which is a jump of 2% in value against USD. We need to understand what this means for us and its consequences.

Understanding the effect on GDP.

2% appreciation in India Rupee against USD means we have added, 2% in Indian GDP in nominal term in USD. This amounts to 2.5 Tr USDx2% is 50 bn USD which is 20% of Pakistan economy. When we struggle a lot to increase growth rate by 0.5% and people speculates whether growth rate shall be 7.1% or 7.5% so that GDP may increase in volume by same percentage and we may add to GDP in our existing level of about 2.5 TR USD. This is a straight hike of 2% in GDP nominal. 2.4 TR usd economy has just grown to 2.45 TR USD economy adding 50 Bn USD in just 2 days. This means we have further widen the Gap between UK economy and Indian economy by 2% more to whom Indian economy just overtook.

External Debt:

India's external debt is about 485 bn USD in March 2016 as per RBI. This simply mean that we have reduced our Debt by 2% in rupee term. This is saving of 10 bn USD while payment in Rupee which mean that we will have to Pay Ts 65000 crore less while discharging our Debt. Appreciation of 1% in Rupee value against USD saves our Rs 30000 crore which we may use for our development.

Weapon and oil import:

Our Oil import was 64 bn USD in 2015-16. Oil prices are rising so as the consumption. Even if I assume it to be 70 bn USD in coming year, this is a reduction of RS 10000 crore in oil Import bill and we may expect that impact of rise in crude oil price will be absorbed by appreciation in Rupee value and end user will not have to pay a price increase of Rs 1.50 per USD.

For our weapon import, we have a plan to purchase 230 bn USD weapon in coming decade. This 2% appreciation will result in a saving of 4.6 BN USD which is about RS 30000 crore.

Trade deficit:

Our import is higher than the export. So Trade deficit shall narrow. We have monthly average of trade deficit between 7 to 10 BN USD. If I take it as about 100 bn USD it is a decrease in Trade deficit by 2 BN USD which is 13000 crore Rupees.

Impact on Export:

Obviously export has always a negative impact on Appreciation of any currency but India export is largely in IT and engineering sector etc which can easily absorb this rise. Some exports such as petroleum products which are linked with oil import and they can easily afford to ease the price as the input are also getting cheaper because of currency appreciation.

Raising of cost effective fund:

Recently reliance took a loan of around 700 to 800 mn USD from International market at a rate of some 2.5% interest. The greatest risk of raising fund from international market is that you will end up loosing a great amount if your currency falls. We show this happening in the case South Korea and collapsing of their economy. If Rupee starts appreciating, hedging of rupee shall be very cost effective and you can buy fund from International market at a very cheap rate which can be as low as 2% to 4%. Your servicing of debt shall be very very cheap and you can overcome the biggest factor of production which is capital in case of India.

Conclusion:

Appreciation is INR VS USD and other currency is a great development in India economy. After the appreciation of Rupee against USD in Vajpayee era, the economy was completely let down by foolish policies of congress and Chidambaram in particular. As Modi rightly said that it is Harvard VS Hard work. BJP government has set policies right. Rupees is by and large stable in 2 and half year of BJP government. Now Rupee has started appreciating. This will be a great achievement and a great boost to Indian economy and Rupee will head toward its correct value which should be around RS 20 a USD.
 
When people said that how can India be a 10 TR USD economy? I always said that china grew from 2 bn USD to 10 bn USD in a decade. This will requires a 17.5% rise in economy. They grew between 8 to 10% and rest of amount came from currency appreciation. This seem to have started with India. India's GDP is 9.5 tr USD in PPP and about 2.4 TR USD in nominal term. This mean that currency is undervalued by factor 3.9 compared to PPP. So INR has a great potential of Appreciation. This seem to have started. I want to see Rs ahainst USD at 60 by the 2019 when Modi completes his term. I want to see USD at RS 40 aginst INR by 2022. This will add 1.6 time economy just by appreciation and rest 60% may come appreciation. This will make Indian economy around 6 TR USD by 2022 and that will be ahead of any other economy IN nominal term too after china and US. India is already Third economy in the world in PPP.
 
Your economy only grows in local currency... you cannot rely on exchange rate...

For example Pakistan's economy grew by around 2% in rupee terms back in 2010-11 but about 20% in dollar. It is your local currency which really counts and despite the fact it will give boost in USD... it is wrong method to measure your economy in foreign currency as the USD can also appreciate anytime... your local currency will remain stable
 
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Your economy only grows in local currency... you cannot rely on exchange rate...

For example Pakistan's economy grew by around 2% in rupee terms back in 2008-09 but about 20% in dollar. It is your local currency which really counts and despite the fact it will give boost in USD... it is wrong method to measure your economy in foteign currency as the USD can also appreciate anytime... your local currency will remain stable

Yup thats why local currency measurement matters most and when comparing across borders, PPP.

One will notice thats why PPP growth year on year is way more stable than nominal exchange rate for the very reason you mention here.

India for example grew close to 30% I believe one year by nominal USD terms....but did that manifest on the ground? Nope. It was always PPP that did so (thats what you actually physically consume in volumes).

USD nominal GDP would only really matter if India's trade was more than 50% of its GDP or its currency was the USD....or at least had a high financial and economic integration with the larger world economy....all 3 are false for time being.

Besides this is more of a transient fluctuation to begin with. If its a year on year gain, we can analyse it (reasons behind it etc) more strongly.
 
Your economy only grows in local currency... you cannot rely on exchange rate...

For example Pakistan's economy grew by around 2% in rupee terms back in 2008-09 but about 20% in dollar. It is your local currency which really counts and despite the fact it will give boost in USD... it is wrong method to measure your economy in foteign currency as the USD can also appreciate anytime... your local currency will remain stable

Thst is true but Indian Economy has rose by 2% in nominal term and nobody can deny that. Similarly our debt also decrease by 2% and nobody can deny that.
 
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Your economy only grows in local currency... you cannot rely on exchange rate...

For example Pakistan's economy grew by around 2% in rupee terms back in 2008-09 but about 20% in dollar. It is your local currency which really counts and despite the fact it will give boost in USD... it is wrong method to measure your economy in foteign currency as the USD can also appreciate anytime... your local currency will remain stable

but we import a lot.
 
Thst is true but Indian Economy has rose by 2% in nominal term and nobody can deny that. Similarly our debt also decrease by @% and nobody can deny that.

2 days is pretty transient. What matters is over at least a quarter....preferably a year (for actual mid and long term effects on foreign consumption/investment power projection footprint per rupee). I say this because 2 day gains can be reversed in 2 days as well. Structural gains need more time for clear trend formation and impact analysis.
 
2 days is pretty transient. What matters is over at least a quarter....preferably a year (for actual mid and long term effects on foreign consumption/investment power projection footprint per rupee). I say this because 2 day gains can be reversed in 2 days as well. Structural gains need more time for clear trend formation and impact analysis.

Article says that this this is happened in last two days and analyzes its effect on economy. This shows how various parameters will change with rise and same way fall in Indian economy. Just look at this that way.

Your economy only grows in local currency... you cannot rely on exchange rate...

For example Pakistan's economy grew by around 2% in rupee terms back in 2008-09 but about 20% in dollar. It is your local currency which really counts and despite the fact it will give boost in USD... it is wrong method to measure your economy in foteign currency as the USD can also appreciate anytime... your local currency will remain stable

Can you give any reference of Pakistan Economy growing by 20% in 1 year in USD terms?
 
Can you give any reference of Pakistan Economy growing by 20% in 1 year in USD terms?

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2016/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?sy=2000&ey=2021&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&pr1.x=48&pr1.y=4&c=564,534&s=NGDPD&grp=0&a=

Check 2010 to 2011. Thats like 20% growth for Pakistan in USD terms.

Mind you that is not real growth (in local currency minus inflation)....or PPP growth which accounts for volumes (w.r.t global reference) better.

Thats why for India you will find the 30% growth in USD terms similarly for 2006 - 2007.

Now compare these to PPP:

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2016/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=54&pr.y=15&sy=2000&ey=2021&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=564,534&s=PPPGDP&grp=0&a=

See what I mean? No crazy swings and no years where GDP "shrunk" (even though local real growth was well in positive).
 
http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2016/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?sy=2000&ey=2021&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&pr1.x=48&pr1.y=4&c=564,534&s=NGDPD&grp=0&a=

Check 2010 to 2011. Thats like 20% growth for Pakistan in USD terms.

Mind you that is not real growth (in local currency minus inflation)....or PPP growth which accounts for volumes (w.r.t global reference) better.

Thats why for India you will find the 30% growth in USD terms similarly for 2006 - 2007.

Now compare these to PPP:

http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2016/01/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=54&pr.y=15&sy=2000&ey=2021&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=564,534&s=PPPGDP&grp=0&a=

See what I mean? No crazy swings and no years where GDP "shrunk" (even though local real growth was well in positive).

Nobody claims that it is real growth. Everybody know what you are saying but can you deny that Indian economy grew by 2% in nominal term or can you deny any fact stated in Article. Why do you work overtime to prove something which nobody has even claim. Just discuss any point of article.
 
Nobody claims that it is real growth. Everybody know what you are saying but can you deny that Indian economy grew by 2% in nominal term or can you deny any fact stated in Article. Why do you work overtime to prove something which nobody has even claim. Just discuss any point of article.

Well you asked which year Pakistan grew 20% in USD terms...so there you go. Now you know that one year India grew 30% in USD terms as well.

As for the point of the article....I will discuss it when the gain has been sustained over a quarter at least. Transient effects come and go. What sustains over an appropriate period of time is what is important to me.

Let us look at just the conclusion:

Appreciation is INR VS USD and other currency is a great development in India economy. After the appreciation of Rupee against USD in Vajpayee era, the economy was completely let down by foolish policies of congress and Chidambaram in particular. As Modi rightly said that it is Harvard VS Hard work. BJP government has set policies right. Rupees is by and large stable in 2 and half year of BJP government. Now Rupee has started appreciating. This will be a great achievement and a great boost to Indian economy and Rupee will head toward its correct value which should be around RS 20 a USD.

Rupee has started appreciating. Good (esp if effect on any labour intensive export sectors can be mitigated or even sustained)....and it will definitely need to be sustained in large degree for India to get back to growing in large chunks in USD nominal terms. But the importance of that relative to local currency (real growth) is a much longer discussion. That's why I say lets give it the time to see if this trend actually materialises over the appropriate structural time period....and what is prompting the trend. Nothing is anywhere near close to assured from the vantage point I view this at. What matters most to me is the formal job creation (esp in labour intensive manufacturing to propel the urbanisation in Indian heartland)....nominal USD measurement of the economy has limited utility in measuring that (as evidenced during the previous UPA tenures).
 
Our Oil import was 64 bn USD in 2015-16. Oil prices are rising so as the consumption. Even if I assume it to be 70 bn USD in coming year, this is a reduction of RS 10000 crore in oil Import bill and we may expect that impact of rise in crude oil price will be absorbed by appreciation in Rupee value and end user will not have to pay a price increase of Rs 1.50 per USD.

good read, thanks for the info..

but isn't the crude prices going down?? but still why we're paying too much for petrol in India????!
 
But this appreciation this didn't changed the life of a common man on the street. The prices are the same and life style is the same.
 

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