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Has the Pak Deep State Surrendered to IK?

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Here is my naïve understanding, based on the Ottoman mindset, vis-à-vis the current roller coaster “puppet show” in Pak:
  • Why is the Pak Deep State so quiet? Why have they left the stage to IK? Is it like a “Gunah bizden gitti – sin has left us” syndrome?
  • IK has got them to agree to the fact that a summary case of High Treason can be brought against the “three stooges”, and their minion maggots.
  • IK has declared in “talk shows” he’s there to protect the Deep State, whose suggestions are no starters.
  • IK has brought China into the equation to counter the USA.
  • IK has publicly named and shamed the Biden administration to the extent that they’re disowning their stray dogs in Pak.
  • IK is threatening to go to the next levels normal mortals would avoid.
  • IK is promising to show the “Usual Suspects” their places.
  • In short: Buck Stops Here.
  • Etc.
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Yup.. pretty naive understanding of situation.
 
Maybe, maybe not. Only tomorrow will tell. But I seriously don't have high hopes because hum neutral hain.
 
Maybe, maybe not. Only tomorrow will tell. But I seriously don't have high hopes because hum neutral hain.
youll lose NCV, apolitical COAS and get early 6 month elections -my prediction that I strongly believe in
 
Here is my naïve understanding, based on the Ottoman mindset, vis-à-vis the current roller coaster “puppet show” in Pak:
  • Why is the Pak Deep State so quiet? Why have they left the stage to IK? Is it like a “Gunah bizden gitti – sin has left us” syndrome?
  • IK has got them to agree to the fact that a summary case of High Treason can be brought against the “three stooges”, and their minion maggots.
  • IK has declared in “talk shows” he’s there to protect the Deep State, whose suggestions are no starters.
  • IK has brought China into the equation to counter the USA.
  • IK has publicly named and shamed the Biden administration to the extent that they’re disowning their stray dogs in Pak.
  • IK is threatening to go to the next levels normal mortals would avoid.
  • IK is promising to show the “Usual Suspects” their places.
  • In short: Buck Stops Here.
  • Etc.
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Well, people are hoping this is the case. But no one can tell if it really is, till it is.

So we wait and watch. A lot of traitors in line. A lot of betrayals can happen. No one knows.
 
IK has declared in “talk shows” he’s there to protect the Deep State, whose suggestions are no starters.


The title??

The Pak deep state or the establishment is somehow controlled by the International establishment, or has good influence on it if not controlled.

Only when it comes to India that Pakistan Army can go Gung ho and be fierce, and intl' estab is OK with it.

When it comes to intl' estab. Pak estab. cannot start a fight, cannot ake a stand against it.

Pak nuclear assests were developed and intl' estab kind of let it happen, as Pak had the narrative that India is the eternal enemy, and Intl' powers need not worry.

So pak going for the new bloc. with Russia and China means another narrative shaping up, which they cannot accept.
 
The title??

The Pak deep state or the establishment is somehow controlled by the International establishment, or has good influence on it if not controlled.

Only when it comes to India that Pakistan Army can go Gung ho and be fierce, and intl' estab is OK with it.

When it comes to intl' estab. Pak estab. cannot start a fight, cannot ake a stand against it.

Pak nuclear assests were developed and intl' estab kind of let it happen, as Pak had the narrative that India is the eternal enemy, and Intl' powers need not worry.

So pak going for the new bloc. with Russia and China means another narrative shaping up, which they cannot accept.
why were they allowed to support talib though?
 
why were they allowed to support talib though?


they were yester years Mujahideens which US supported, and Pakistan was a non NATO ally in US fight agaisnt Taliban, so this was the dichotomy, Pak always maintained that they just have enough or little influence on Talibs and they acts independently.

US/NATO was stuck up in Afghan., they want a way out.

And it's not that the Pak Army was directly supporting the Talibs, and US acknowledged that.
 
youll lose NCV, apolitical COAS and get early 6 month elections -my prediction that I strongly believe in

Doesn't fit the equation our Aaqaas (masters) have asked for. They want IK removed but would they like to see him again? Absolutely not!
 

Here is my naïve understanding, based on the Ottoman mindset, vis-à-vis the current roller coaster “puppet show” in Pak:
  • Why is the Pak Deep State so quiet? Why have they left the stage to IK? Is it like a “Gunah bizden gitti – sin has left us” syndrome?
  • IK has got them to agree to the fact that a summary case of High Treason can be brought against the “three stooges”, and their minion maggots.
  • IK has declared in “talk shows” he’s there to protect the Deep State, whose suggestions are no starters.
  • IK has brought China into the equation to counter the USA.
  • IK has publicly named and shamed the Biden administration to the extent that they’re disowning their stray dogs in Pak.
  • IK is threatening to go to the next levels normal mortals would avoid.
  • IK is promising to show the “Usual Suspects” their places.
  • In short: Buck Stops Here.
  • Etc.
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Your expectations from Pakistan deepstate don't seem to be realistic at this point in time, considering the visible parts of the dynamics, both at present and in hindsight. Here are my two cents.
1- apparently, whether top leadership of establishment is sold out or for whatever (unfathomable other) reasons (e.g. as reported, internal conflicts??), have chosen to be spectators in this regime change drama on behest of US.
2- IK, at the moment, abstaining from going after them, because he thinks, establishment is important for survival of country on the map, at least. IK, most probably won't weaken the institute. He has mentioned how differe foreign powers desire to make Syria/Libya etc. out of Pakistan and how it requires the institution for survival. He may elaborate this point in coming days.
3- Deepstate has fought long war and been doing what you are expecting from them. However, having representatives of international establishment on every key position, only people willing to fight 'till end', will choose to fight anymore. In hindsight, now that gloves are off, we can imagine, who made all those important appointments which IK was reluctant to make in past. Let's see how many sons this god forsaken nation still have, unwilling to sell the motherland. In your words, IK may go levels, normal mortals don't dare, but he is facing a plethora of "cherry blossom" on every level and in every state institution, well connected with foreign powers.
4- With so many things being exposed, Pakistan don't seem to go back to what it has been in the past few years. Most probably, International establishment would make it Egypt of this region by placing some version of Sisi at top, as PDM-setup is too unsustainable and unreliable for them, due to many reasons. By doing so, it would try to achieve its own objectives in the region. It a been pratice in past, but with emerging new world order, its effectiveness has question mark.
IK remains the X-factor.
 
Establishment, Gen Bawja who suppose to be watching out for conspiracy against the state is part of it. Game over for IK.
 
youll lose NCV, apolitical COAS and get early 6 month elections -my prediction that I strongly believe in

Personally I don't think that might be all too bad for IK

He energizes his base, becomes a political martyr against the corrupt

PDM show their utter uselessness as usual and as long as we have free elections IK makes his case for a big majority
 
Personally I don't think that might be all too bad for IK

He energizes his base, becomes a political martyr against the corrupt

PDM show their utter uselessness as usual and as long as we have free elections IK makes his case for a big majority
all is good- PTI supporters should stop with their complete mental breakdown on the internet
its embarrassing to watch
 
Here’s the sequence of events that I think will happen.

1. Imran Khan will lose the no-confidence vote and will cease to be the prime minister.

2. Imran Khan will get all PTI members to resign from national and provincial parliaments, forcing elections.

3. PTI will lose elections.

4. America will be happy. Establishment will be happy. Life will go on in Pakistan as always, sinking in corruption and poverty.
 

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