These two aircraft will be competing against each other in the Indo- Pak scenerio trying to give their respective Airforces the first look shot. The Phalcon is calimed to be the better of the two. Some specs and comparisions. Let's speculate on what each will bring to the IAF and the PAF.
IAI Phalcon 707
Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) developed its Phalcon system for Israeli defence forces and for export. Airborne Early Warning, Command and Control (AEWC&C) systems play a major role on the modern battlefield by providing real-time intelligence and command and control needed to achieve and maintain air superiority over the combat area and to enable surveillance of borders in peacetime. The world's most advanced AEWC&C system, the PHALCON, was developed and produced by ELTA using Active Phased Array Electronic Scanning Technology rather than a mechanically rotating antenna (rotodome) used by current AWACS systems, giving PHALCON greater operational flexibility and performance by several orders of magnitude. The Phalcon AEW&C aircraft is based on four sensors: phased-array radar, phased-array IFF, ESM/ELINT and CSM/COMINT. A unique fusion technology continuously cross-relates the data gathered by all sensors. When one of the sensors reports a detection, the system automatically initiates an active search of the complementary sensors.
The AWE&C phased array radar replaces the conventional rotodome radar. It is mounted either on the aircraft fuselage or on top of the aircraft inside a stationary dome, providing full 360° coverage. This electronically steered beam radar delivers a tremendous advantage over mechanical rotating antenna, as it supports the tracking a high maneuvering targets. The radar can detect even low flying objects from distances of hundreds of kilometers, day and night, under all weather conditions. Verification beams sent at specific, individual, newly detected targets eliminate false alarms. Moreover, track initiation is achieved in 2 to 4 seconds as compared to 20 to 40 seconds with a rotodome radar
The IFF system employs solid state phased array technology to perform interrogation, decoding, target detection and tracking. A monopulse technique is used to implement azimuth measurement. The IFF data is automatically correlated with the phased array radar.
The ESM/ELINT system receives, analyzes and locates radar signals, covering 360o. It combines high sensitivity with high probability of intercept, and achieves excellent accuracy in bearing measurement. The system uses narrow-band super-heterodyne receivers and wide-band instantaneous frequency measurement (IFM) techniques to provide very high accuracy and probability of intercept of airborne and surface emitters. Very high bearing accuracy for all received signals is achieved through Differential Time of Arrival (DTOA) measurements. The system also collects and analyzes ELINT data.
The PHALCON's CSM/COMINT receives in UHF, VHF and HF, rapidly searching for airborne, shipborne or ground communications signals of interest. Selected radio nets can be monitored for signal activity. A DF capability locates targets. Detected signals can be assigned to monitoring receivers instantaneously. The system makes extensive use of computers to reduce the load on operators.
The aircraft communicates, via its data link, with Air Defense HQ. Data from additional air defense sensors are fused to create a complete spatial picture.
The PHALCON systems can be installed on a variety of platforms, such as the Boeing 707, Boeing 767, Boeing 747, Airbus and C-130. This system has already been sold to Chile, where it is designated "Condor". Under the aegis of Defense Minister Yitzhak Mordechai and Defense Ministry Director General Ilan Biran, six agreements for cooperation between Israeli, American and European defense firms were signed on 15 October 1998. Under one of these agreements, IAI/ELTA Electronics Industries Ltd. and Raytheon Systems Company will cooperate on the development, production and marketing of AEWC&C systems on a world wide basis. The new project will be based on PHALCON. The two companies have already teamed up to compete for tenders for AEWC&C systems for Australia, South Korea and Turkey.
Specifications
Country of Origin Israel
Builder IAI
Role
Similar Aircraft
Wing Span 44.60 m
Wing Area 283.40 m²
Length 44.40 m
Height 12.90 m
Weight
Engine 4 x P&W JT3D-3B
Maximum speed 973 Km/h
Cruising speed
Range 6,920 Km
The Saab 340 is a Swedish twin-engined turboprop aircraft. An AEW version with a phased-array radar in a rectangular pod on top of the fuselage was developed in the early 1990s. In 1994 the first Saab 340 AEW & C was delivered and radar integration work was begun. In 1995 the Saab 340 AEW & C was re-designated S 100B (S = Spaning = Reconnaissance) and given the official name Argus. The Swedish air force ordered six aircraft, four of will be fitted with radar, two fitted for, but not with, radars to be used as tranports until a need for more airborne radars materialises. Some are used by Japan as Search-and-Rescue aircraft.
The Ericsson PS-890 Erieye radar uses an active array with 200 solid state modules. The range of the S-band, 3 GHz, side looking radar is 300 km. The 1,985-lb (900-kg) dorsal antenna is housed in a 29-ft 6.3-in (9-m) long box radome mounted atop the fuselage. Utilizing adaptive side lobe suppression, the look angle on each side is about 160 degrees. From its standard operational altitude of 6000 meters (19,685 feet, or FL200) the radar has a maximum range of 450 km (279 miles). Against a fighter-sized target effective range is approximately 330 km (205 miles). Seaborne targets can be detected at 320 km (1998 miles), though this is a function of the aircraft's cruising height. The electronically scanned antenna can scan sectors of interest frequently while others are monitored, and asingle sector can be scanned in different modes at the same time. The aircraft does not carry controllers (although it's large enough to do so), but functions as an an airborne radar integrated with the total air defence network.
The Saab 340 Cityliner, with its 33-seat capacity, is a passenger aircraft operated on secondary air routes with moderate traffic volume. It offers a means of providing scheduled air services to regions where current demand would not warrant the deployment of larger aircraft. Despite its small size, the Cityliner has all the facilities one would expect of an aircraft today, including advanced avionics and a fully-equipped galley.
Specifications
Country of Origin Sweden
Builder Saab-Scania Aktiebolag, Aerospace Division
Role airborne early warning
Similar Aircraft
Wing Span 21.44 m
Length 19.73 m
Height 6.97 m
Weight 13,155 kg Maximum takeoff weight 12,930 kg Maximum landing weight
Engine 2 General Electric GE CT7-9B 1870 shp
Maximum speed 530 km/h
Cruising speed 160 knots
Range 1,300 km Maximum range with full payload
Endurance 5-7 hours
Service Ceiling 7,620 m
Patrol altitude 6-7000 m
Runway 1,290 m Minimum takeoff distance
1,035 m Minimum landing distance
Armament none
Crew two to five
Cost
User Countries Sweden, Japan
Hi everyone,
I am commencing with my first thread on Defense.pk. I am highly impressed by the civilized way of coming to a conclusion in this community. I would like you all to put your inputs as what it would be like in a full fledged air-combat scenario as irrespective of technology, I believe a decent fight exist between these two EYES.
Thanks and Regards,
KS
IAI Phalcon 707
Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) developed its Phalcon system for Israeli defence forces and for export. Airborne Early Warning, Command and Control (AEWC&C) systems play a major role on the modern battlefield by providing real-time intelligence and command and control needed to achieve and maintain air superiority over the combat area and to enable surveillance of borders in peacetime. The world's most advanced AEWC&C system, the PHALCON, was developed and produced by ELTA using Active Phased Array Electronic Scanning Technology rather than a mechanically rotating antenna (rotodome) used by current AWACS systems, giving PHALCON greater operational flexibility and performance by several orders of magnitude. The Phalcon AEW&C aircraft is based on four sensors: phased-array radar, phased-array IFF, ESM/ELINT and CSM/COMINT. A unique fusion technology continuously cross-relates the data gathered by all sensors. When one of the sensors reports a detection, the system automatically initiates an active search of the complementary sensors.
The AWE&C phased array radar replaces the conventional rotodome radar. It is mounted either on the aircraft fuselage or on top of the aircraft inside a stationary dome, providing full 360° coverage. This electronically steered beam radar delivers a tremendous advantage over mechanical rotating antenna, as it supports the tracking a high maneuvering targets. The radar can detect even low flying objects from distances of hundreds of kilometers, day and night, under all weather conditions. Verification beams sent at specific, individual, newly detected targets eliminate false alarms. Moreover, track initiation is achieved in 2 to 4 seconds as compared to 20 to 40 seconds with a rotodome radar
The IFF system employs solid state phased array technology to perform interrogation, decoding, target detection and tracking. A monopulse technique is used to implement azimuth measurement. The IFF data is automatically correlated with the phased array radar.
The ESM/ELINT system receives, analyzes and locates radar signals, covering 360o. It combines high sensitivity with high probability of intercept, and achieves excellent accuracy in bearing measurement. The system uses narrow-band super-heterodyne receivers and wide-band instantaneous frequency measurement (IFM) techniques to provide very high accuracy and probability of intercept of airborne and surface emitters. Very high bearing accuracy for all received signals is achieved through Differential Time of Arrival (DTOA) measurements. The system also collects and analyzes ELINT data.
The PHALCON's CSM/COMINT receives in UHF, VHF and HF, rapidly searching for airborne, shipborne or ground communications signals of interest. Selected radio nets can be monitored for signal activity. A DF capability locates targets. Detected signals can be assigned to monitoring receivers instantaneously. The system makes extensive use of computers to reduce the load on operators.
The aircraft communicates, via its data link, with Air Defense HQ. Data from additional air defense sensors are fused to create a complete spatial picture.
The PHALCON systems can be installed on a variety of platforms, such as the Boeing 707, Boeing 767, Boeing 747, Airbus and C-130. This system has already been sold to Chile, where it is designated "Condor". Under the aegis of Defense Minister Yitzhak Mordechai and Defense Ministry Director General Ilan Biran, six agreements for cooperation between Israeli, American and European defense firms were signed on 15 October 1998. Under one of these agreements, IAI/ELTA Electronics Industries Ltd. and Raytheon Systems Company will cooperate on the development, production and marketing of AEWC&C systems on a world wide basis. The new project will be based on PHALCON. The two companies have already teamed up to compete for tenders for AEWC&C systems for Australia, South Korea and Turkey.
Specifications
Country of Origin Israel
Builder IAI
Role
Similar Aircraft
Wing Span 44.60 m
Wing Area 283.40 m²
Length 44.40 m
Height 12.90 m
Weight
Engine 4 x P&W JT3D-3B
Maximum speed 973 Km/h
Cruising speed
Range 6,920 Km
The Saab 340 is a Swedish twin-engined turboprop aircraft. An AEW version with a phased-array radar in a rectangular pod on top of the fuselage was developed in the early 1990s. In 1994 the first Saab 340 AEW & C was delivered and radar integration work was begun. In 1995 the Saab 340 AEW & C was re-designated S 100B (S = Spaning = Reconnaissance) and given the official name Argus. The Swedish air force ordered six aircraft, four of will be fitted with radar, two fitted for, but not with, radars to be used as tranports until a need for more airborne radars materialises. Some are used by Japan as Search-and-Rescue aircraft.
The Ericsson PS-890 Erieye radar uses an active array with 200 solid state modules. The range of the S-band, 3 GHz, side looking radar is 300 km. The 1,985-lb (900-kg) dorsal antenna is housed in a 29-ft 6.3-in (9-m) long box radome mounted atop the fuselage. Utilizing adaptive side lobe suppression, the look angle on each side is about 160 degrees. From its standard operational altitude of 6000 meters (19,685 feet, or FL200) the radar has a maximum range of 450 km (279 miles). Against a fighter-sized target effective range is approximately 330 km (205 miles). Seaborne targets can be detected at 320 km (1998 miles), though this is a function of the aircraft's cruising height. The electronically scanned antenna can scan sectors of interest frequently while others are monitored, and asingle sector can be scanned in different modes at the same time. The aircraft does not carry controllers (although it's large enough to do so), but functions as an an airborne radar integrated with the total air defence network.
The Saab 340 Cityliner, with its 33-seat capacity, is a passenger aircraft operated on secondary air routes with moderate traffic volume. It offers a means of providing scheduled air services to regions where current demand would not warrant the deployment of larger aircraft. Despite its small size, the Cityliner has all the facilities one would expect of an aircraft today, including advanced avionics and a fully-equipped galley.
Specifications
Country of Origin Sweden
Builder Saab-Scania Aktiebolag, Aerospace Division
Role airborne early warning
Similar Aircraft
Wing Span 21.44 m
Length 19.73 m
Height 6.97 m
Weight 13,155 kg Maximum takeoff weight 12,930 kg Maximum landing weight
Engine 2 General Electric GE CT7-9B 1870 shp
Maximum speed 530 km/h
Cruising speed 160 knots
Range 1,300 km Maximum range with full payload
Endurance 5-7 hours
Service Ceiling 7,620 m
Patrol altitude 6-7000 m
Runway 1,290 m Minimum takeoff distance
1,035 m Minimum landing distance
Armament none
Crew two to five
Cost
User Countries Sweden, Japan
Hi everyone,
I am commencing with my first thread on Defense.pk. I am highly impressed by the civilized way of coming to a conclusion in this community. I would like you all to put your inputs as what it would be like in a full fledged air-combat scenario as irrespective of technology, I believe a decent fight exist between these two EYES.
Thanks and Regards,
KS
