Does democracy really matter to the common man?

[Jango]

The politicinas whine about democracy and all the judiciary adn such but.....does it really mater to the common man?.....the judiciary got restored and some people are being held accountable but the grassroot courts are still the same......common lives in slums and on floors in democracy adn martial law.......in musharaffs period pakistan had a rapid rise and even if the judiciary got kicked out....the common man didnt really feel injustice......only the politicians got the people out by making false cries and nawaz sharif came back and every politician pursued his personal motives........a person lives in a poorer state than before although there is democracy than before when there was dictator ship of musharraf......so does it really matter to the common man.......he only wants good life be it through democracy or dictatorship!

 

[Jango]

its the constant blabbering by the elite people for democracy in pursue of ther motives that got the common man thinking about democracy....although he knows nothing about its meaning.

 

[lover_of_Ahlulbayt]

OF COURSE IT DOES NOT MATTER!

common man just gives a damn about low inflation and basic necessacities!

They dont give a damn if army rules or demoCRAZY rules!

I was NEVER a fan of pakistani demoCRAZY and have always favored Egyptian style army government in Pakistan! The Egyptian system for Pakistan will work SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fine because our army is PRO PEOPLE and is not corrupt at all!

 

[muse]

common man just gives a damn about low inflation and basic necessacities!

They dont give a damn if army rules or demoCRAZY rules!

Excellent -- it's not clean, political parties will hate it, the ideologues and and Utopians will detest it - but I think it's the essence of a more just, more equitable society that at the very minimum, that things work as they are supposed to.

 

[Solomon2]

the judiciary got restored and some people are being held accountable but the grassroot courts are still the same -

Then you don't have much democracy; when courts are crooked the relationship between persons is master and slave, not free men.

in musharaffs period pakistan had a rapid rise and even if the judiciary got kicked out....the common man didnt really feel injustice

I see. To me, the real issue is that Pakistan's "democracy" is top-down, not bottom-up and Pakistani governance needs to be re-created at the local level - not through Taliban-empowered thugs, but through vote-empowered mayors, sheriffs, and prosecutors.

does it really matter to the common man.......he only wants good life be it through democracy or dictatorship!

That the problem, if the "common man" doesn't embrace democracy his alternative is the master/slave system whether run by the Talibs or the Nawabs.

 

[muse]

if the "common man" doesn't embrace democracy his alternative is the master/slave system whether run by the Talibs or the Nawabs.

You really have it all wrong, it for those who sell this "democracy" to deliver, that is the only way the ordinary person will buy into it -- see the ordinary person just wants his or her problems solved, the ordinary person wants govt. people and institutions to do what they are supposed to do.

You make a compelling point about top down, however, what difference will it make if Democracy cannot deliver

 

[BladeMaster]

You really have it all wrong, it for those who sell this "democracy" to deliver, that is the only way the ordinary person will buy into it -- see the ordinary person just wants his or her problems solved, the ordinary person wants govt. people and institutions to do what they are supposed to do.

You make a compelling point about top down, however, what difference will it make if Democracy cannot deliver

and when the government, does just wateva it wants to do, and doesnt give a damn what you think??

the problem with communism, you cant do or say anything against it, or u find urself quashed quickly

u never chose who runs the country, instead others will are always imposed on you

ohh its great when things are your way, u will support that current regime etc.. untill they turn on u and create problems in ur life, and u will be crying woe is me, while other ppl who think like u will say meh its fine, i got no problems right now... how would u feel then?


even america, and other western countrys, there democrazy is waning, the governments want absolute control, we dont get much choice in who becomes in charge, the governemtns do wat they want and take the ppls wants with little consideration, unless it affects their election campaign... in which case they just break the promises they made to get them elected

its limited democrazy... and that is not in any way shape or for, freedom

however, it is better then communism etc... well, communism is rife with corruption

theoretically it is sound

 

[muse]

Blademassa

I'm not sure what your post is about -- that democracy is better than commuism?? Because??? Since I'm not exactly sure what your point is, allow me to clarify mine, what people want is for govt to deliver - they are willing to put up with inconveniences, so long as they are assured that govt actually delivers

 

[desioptimist]

OF COURSE IT DOES NOT MATTER!

common man just gives a damn about low inflation and basic necessacities!

They dont give a damn if army rules or demoCRAZY rules!

I was NEVER a fan of pakistani demoCRAZY and have always favored Egyptian style army government in Pakistan! The Egyptian system for Pakistan will work SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO fine because our army is PRO PEOPLE and is not corrupt at all!

Well once you get army rule, then some of you(among common men) will find some reason to dislike it.
About Egypt style army rule, dont you think this is the worst time to support them. Most of middle east is fighting for democracy, and you want pakistan to move in opposite direction.

 

[muse]

Most of middle east is fighting for democracy

Spare us this idiot fox news version of events --- What they are fighting for is the chance to create lives of dignity, in other words they want govt to do it's job and deliver -- recall the overthrow of the Egyptian king, why did people accept it? Why did they continue to support the army rule? And why did they turn against the army rule? They supported the Egyptian young officers because it was a chance to build lives of dignity and they stopped supporting the army after it not only failed to win against Israel but ended up in bed with Israel and the US, that is to say that it betrayed itself.

Fighting for Democracy?? Ask the Tunisian who set himself ablaze, ask Egyptians of their disappointment and then frustration of not having dignity in their own country -- I hope this comes to Pakistan - in the end it does not matter what color the cat is, what matters is that it catches mice.

 

[pak-marine]

the common man of Pakistan are the people in rural areas governed by fuedals p*gs , how would they know a thing about democracy when they are governed by med evil laws , they are widely practiced in our part of the region . Its the common man who live in the rural areas are the majority who can really help and bring a change in Pakistani society , first get Rid of these moronic laws before any one questions them !