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ABBOTTABAD/NEW YORK: Extensive surveillance of Osama bin Laden's hideout from a nearby CIA safe house in Abbottabad led to his killing in a Navy SEALs operation, US officials said, a revelation likely to further embarrass Pakistan's spy agency and strain ties.

The US officials, quoted by the Washington Post on Friday, said the safe house was the base for an intelligence-gathering operation that began after bin Laden's compound was discovered last August, and which was so exhaustive that the CIA asked Congress to reallocate tens of millions of dollars to fund it.

"The CIA's job was to find and fix," the Post quoted one US official as saying. "The intelligence work was as complete as it was going to be, and it was the military's turn to finish the target."

US officials told the New York Times that intelligence gathered from computer files and documents seized at his compound showed that bin Laden had for years directly orchestrated al Qaeda attacks from the Pakistani town.

The fact that bin Laden was found in a garrison town -- his compound was a stone's throw away from a major military academy -- has embarrassed Pakistan and the covert raid by US commandos that led to his killing has angered its military.

On Thursday, the Pakistan army threatened to halt counter-terrorism cooperation with the United States, if it conducted another, similar unilateral strike.

A major Islamist party in Pakistan, Jamaat-e-Islami, called for mass protests on Friday against what it called a violation of sovereignty by the US raid. It also urged the government to end support for US battles against militants.

A senior Pakistani security official also charged that US troops had killed the unarmed al Qaeda leader in "cold blood".

The criticism from Pakistan is likely to fray a relationship that Washington deems vital to defeating the al Qaeda movement that bin Laden led and winning its war in neighboring Afghanistan.

A US acknowledgment that bin Laden was unarmed when shot in the head -- as well as the sea burial of his body, a rare practice in Islam -- have also drawn criticism in the Arab world and Europe, where some have warned of a backlash.

Few Americans appear to have any qualms about how bin Laden was killed, and on Thursday, scores of people cheered President Barack Obama during a visit to New York's Ground Zero, site of the twin towers al Qaeda leveled on September 11, 2001, to comfort a city still scarred by attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people.

Obama said the killing of bin Laden "sent a message around the world, but also sent a message here back home, that when we say we will never forget, we mean what we say.

FRAYED TIES

Friction between Washington and Pakistan has focused on the role of Pakistan's top security service, the ISI or Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate.

Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir denied Pakistani forces or the ISI aided al Qaeda. "The critique of the ISI is not only unwarranted, it cannot be validated," he said.

Lobbyists for Pakistan in Washington have launched an intense campaign on Capitol Hill to counter accusations that Islamabad deliberately gave refuge to bin Laden.

But many Americans are questioning how the al Qaeda leader could live for years in a Pakistani town teeming with military personnel, 50 km (31 miles) from the capital, Islamabad. Two US lawmakers have also complained about the billions in US civilian and military aid to impoverished Pakistan.

Seeking to repair ties, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in Rome on Thursday that Washington was still anxious to maintain its alliance with Islamabad.

The Pakistani army and spy agency have supplied intelligence to the United States, arrested al Qaeda figures and taken on militants in areas bordering Afghanistan.

"It is not always an easy relationship," Clinton said. "But, on the other hand, it is a productive one for both our countries and we are going to continue to cooperate between our governments, our militaries, our law-enforcement agencies."

But Pakistan's army, facing rare criticism at home over the US operation, warned the United States it would risk this cooperation if it conducted another assault.

Chief of Staff General Ashfaq Kayani "made it clear that any similar action violating the sovereignty of Pakistan will warrant a review on the level of military/intelligence cooperation with the United States", the army said.

It was unclear if such attacks included drone strikes which the US military regularly conducts against militants along Pakistan's border with Afghanistan. Pakistan has denied harbouring any members of al Qaeda.

The army also said it would conduct an investigation into failures by its intelligence to detect the world's most wanted man in its own backyard.

CIA SURVEILLANCE

The CIA had spent several months monitoring bin Laden's hideout, watching and photographing residents and visitors from a rented house nearby, according to US officials quoted in the New York Times and Washington Post.

Observing from behind mirrored glass, CIA officers used cameras with telephoto lenses and infrared imaging equipment to study the compound, and they used sensitive eavesdropping equipment to try to pick up voices from inside the house and to intercept cellphone calls, the New York Times said. A satellite used radar to search for possible escape tunnels.

The US administration has refused to be drawn on details on the raid, but, in a further sign of fractious relations between the allies, senior Pakistani security officials told Reuters that US accounts had been misleading.

In Washington, people familiar with the latest US government reporting on the raid said on Thursday that only one of four principal targets shot to death by US commandos was involved in any hostile fire.

As the elite Navy SEALs moved in on a guest house inside bin Laden's compound, they were met with fire and shot a man in the guest house. He proved to be Abu Ahmed al-Kuwaiti, an al Qaeda courier US intelligence agencies had long been tracking.

The commandos then entered the main residence, where they killed another courier and a son of bin Laden, the sources said. They finally shot and killed the al Qaeda leader in a top-floor room after having earlier fired at him as he poked his head out of a door or over a balcony.

US officials originally spoke of a 40-minute firefight. The White House has blamed the "fog of war" for the changing accounts.

Obama visited New York to say he had made good on a 10-year-old promise by his predecessor, George W. Bush, who declared at the smoldering wreckage of the World Trade Center three days after the September 11 attacks, "The people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon."

"We have been waiting for this for 10 years. It puts a little more American pride in people," said Al Fiammetta, 57, a safety engineer who said he had cleared debris at Ground Zero.

Obama signaled in an interview with the CBS television program "60 Minutes" that bin Laden's death confirmed his commitment to begin drawing down troops in Afghanistan in July. "We don't need to have a perpetual footprint of the size that we have now," he said in a published excerpt. (Reuters)

CIA watched Osama from nearby safe house - GEO.tv
 
A major Islamist party in Pakistan, Jamaat-e-Islami, called for mass protests on Friday against what it called a violation of sovereignty by the US raid. It also urged the government to end support for US battles against militants.


these guys are funny.
 
Thread has to merge in previously started similar thread.

Pakistan can't deny that he provided support to CIA for this operation near prime military institution.
 
Thread has to merge in previously started similar thread.

Pakistan can't deny that he provided support to CIA for this operation near prime military institution.

surly , the person who rented his house was a pakistani...
 
pakistan is not afghanistan

everyday passes and i see alot of similarities between the 2 countries. keep on being in denial, you are only a little bit better than us, not much. instead of comparing yoursefl with us, try to see if you can compare yourself with teh other countries. those bigots are talking about sovergnty, but do they know that GoP dont have control over large part of tribal areas? where is the talk of soverghty there?

By the way, since Osama's death, i have been seeing alot of registered members poping out from everywhere.
 
CIA spied on bin Laden from safe house - The Washington Post

CIA spied on bin Laden from safe house
By Greg Miller, Friday, May 6, 5:26 AM

The CIA maintained a safe house in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad for a small team of spies who conducted extensive surveillance over a period of months on the compound where Osama bin Laden was killed by U.S. Special Operations forces this week, U.S. officials said.

The secret CIA facility was used as a base of operations for one of the most delicate human intelligence gathering missions in recent CIA history, one that relied on Pakistani informants and other sources to help assemble a “pattern of life” portrait of the occupants and daily activities at the fortified compound where bin Laden was found, the officials said.

The on-the-ground surveillance work was part of an intelligence-gathering push mobilized after the discovery of the suspicious complex last August that involved virtually every category of collection in the U.S. arsenal, ranging from satellite imagery to eavesdropping efforts aimed at recording voices inside the compound.

The effort was so extensive and costly that the CIA went to Congress in December to secure authority to reallocate tens of millions of dollars within assorted agency budgets to fund it, U.S. officials said.

Most of that surveillance capability remained in place until the execution of the raid by U.S. Navy SEALs shortly after 1 a.m. in Pakistan. The agency’s safe house did not play a role in the raid and has since been shut down, in part because of concerns about the safety of CIA assets in the aftermath, but also because the agency’s work was considered finished.

“The CIA’s job was to find and fix,” said a U.S. official, using Special Operations forces terminology for the identification and location of a high-value target. “The intelligence work was as complete as it was going to be, and it was the military’s turn to finish the target.”

The official, like others quoted for this article, spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak for the record. The CIA declined to comment.

U.S. officials provided new details on bin Laden’s final moments, saying the al-Qaeda leader was first spotted by U.S. forces in the doorway of his room on the compound’s third floor. Bin Laden then turned and retreated into the room before being shot twice — in the head and in the chest. U.S. commandos later found an AK-47 and a pistol in the room.

“He was retreating,” a move that was regarded as resistance, a U.S. official briefed on the operation said. “You don’t know why he’s retreating, what he’s doing when he goes back in there. Is he getting a weapon? Does he have a [suicide] vest?”

Despite what officials described as an extraordinarily concentrated collection effort leading up to the operation, no U.S. spy agency was ever able to capture a photograph of bin Laden at the compound before the raid, or a recording of the voice of the mysterious male figure whose family occupied the structure’s top two floors.

Indeed, current and former U.S. intelligence officials said that bin Laden employed remarkable discipline in his efforts to evade detection.

“You’ve got to give him credit for his tradecraft,” said a former senior CIA official who played a leading role in the manhunt. When spotted by surveillance drones a decade earlier, bin Laden “had bodyguards, multiple SUVs and things like that. He abandoned all of that.”

The officials also outlined emerging theories as to why bin Laden apparently selected the Pakistani military garrison city of Abbottabad as the place that afforded him the greatest chance to stay alive.

The discovery of bin Laden in Abbottabad has raised suspicion that he was placed there and being protected by elements of the Pakistani military and intelligence service, but U.S. officials said they have seen no conclusive evidence that was the case.

The city, about two hours north of Islamabad by car, offered a number of advantages for the al-Qaeda leader, officials said. Chief among them is that Abbottabad, deep inside Pakistan’s borders, is a safe distance from the tribal regions that are patrolled by armed U.S. drones.

U.S. officials said they are convinced that bin Laden, who had long immersed himself among the Pashtun tribes along the border with Afghanistan, was driven from that part of the country by the escalating drone campaign.

“Even five years ago things were dropping from the sky” in Pakistan’s tribal region, a U.S. official said. “He probably felt that if he could conceal his presence [in Abbottabad] it would be an unlikely area for the United States to pursue him.”

Strikes by conventional U.S. aircraft would have carried enormous risks, both because Pakistan has invested heavily in air detection and defense systems — to counter any threat posed by India — and because of the perils of an errant strike.

“All it has to be is about 1,000 yards off and it hits the Pakistan Military Academy,” said a CIA veteran of Afghanistan and Pakistan. The city is also home to two regimental compounds, and suburbs occupied by military families.

U.S. officials said there were also disadvantages for bin Laden in residing in Abbottabad, including the fact that the area is relatively welcoming to outsiders, including Pakistanis on vacation, military families being transferred to bases there, and even U.S. soldiers who have at times been sent to Abbottabad to train Pakistani troops.

“Abbottabad is not a place where Islamic extremists went, because it wasn’t a stronghold,” said the former U.S. intelligence official involved in the bin Laden pursuit. “They preferred places like Peshawar, Quetta or Karachi.” When analysts would consider likely locations for the al-Qaeda chief, the official said, “Abbottabad wouldn’t be on that list.”

The CIA took advantage of that atmosphere to send case officers and recruited informants into Abbottabad undetected, and set up a safe house that functioned as its base.

“That is an Achilles heel for bin Laden, because anybody can go” to Abbottabad, the former CIA official said. “It makes it easier for the CIA to operate.”

U.S. officials declined to say how many case officers or informants used the facility, but they stressed that the effort required extraordinary caution because of the fear that bin Laden and those sheltering him might vanish again if spooked.

The CIA began to focus on the compound last summer after years of painstaking effort to penetrate a small network of couriers with ties to the al-Qaeda leader. Once the most important of those couriers led them to the Abbottabad compound, the conspicuous nature of the complex sent up alarms that it might have been built for bin Laden himself.

“The place was three stories high and you could watch it from a variety of angles,” the former official said. Moving into the custom-made compound, the former official said, “was his biggest mistake.”

When a team of two dozen commandos arrived at the site Monday, one of bin Laden’s couriers was the only enemy to open fire, officials said. “They had to blow through some doors and walls,” said the U.S. official briefed on the raid. “One door they opened up only to find a [cement] wall behind it.”

The SEALs encountered no other armed opposition as they ascended to the top floor, where bin Laden was found. “He was in the doorway and then retreated, and that’s where the operators moved in,” the senior U.S. official said.
 
everyday passes and i see alot of similarities between the 2 countries. keep on being in denial, you are only a little bit better than us, not much. instead of comparing yoursefl with us, try to see if you can compare yourself with teh other countries. those bigots are talking about sovergnty, but do they know that GoP dont have control over large part of tribal areas? where is the talk of soverghty there?

By the way, since Osama's death, i have been seeing alot of registered members poping out from everywhere.

wow!!!!!, pakistan is more or less afghanistan, you gotta be kidding me???, are you kidding me??, aside the KP effected region in pakistan, even despite of bomb blast, pakistan is million times better then afghanistan, pakistan is not actually a stone age, it has developed cities like karachi, lahore, etc, if pakistan was a bit better, then your million afghans would think about migrating to other countries

pakistan is even much better then many middle east countries.

i think you get a very negative impression of pakistan, pakistan is not a stone age, KP is made one so, even KP cities are much better than afghan cities which are utter ruins of soviet and americans, americans dont bomb karachi and lahore daily with smart bombs or raid and destroy every afghan house available

for beginners let me show you some pictures

this is the biggest and best city of pakistan, karachi

Karachi_downtown.jpeg


downtown-karachi.jpg


and this is best of afghanistan, kabul

kabul_22.jpg


kabul-skyline.jpg


like i said pakistan is not a stone age country
 
wow!!!!!, pakistan is more or less afghanistan, you gotta be kidding me???, are you kidding me??, aside the KP effected region in pakistan, even despite of bomb blast, pakistan is million times better then afghanistan, pakistan is not actually a stone age, it has developed cities like karachi, lahore, etc, if pakistan was a bit better, then your million afghans would think about migrating to other countries

pakistan is even much better then many middle east countries.

i think you get a very negative impression of pakistan, pakistan is not a stone age, KP is made one so, even KP cities are much better than afghan cities which are utter ruins of soviet and americans, americans dont bomb karachi and lahore daily with smart bombs or raid and destroy every afghan house available

for beginners let me show you some pictures

this is the biggest and best city of pakistan, karachi

Karachi_downtown.jpeg


downtown-karachi.jpg


and this is best of afghanistan, kabul

kabul_22.jpg


kabul-skyline.jpg


like i said pakistan is not a stone age country


leave its indian afghani wish to see pakistan next afghanistan .
 
wow!!!!!, pakistan is more or less afghanistan, you gotta be kidding me???, are you kidding me??, aside the KP effected region in pakistan, even despite of bomb blast, pakistan is million times better then afghanistan, pakistan is not actually a stone age, it has developed cities like karachi, lahore, etc, if pakistan was a bit better, then your million afghans would think about migrating to other countries

pakistan is even much better then many middle east countries.

i think you get a very negative impression of pakistan, pakistan is not a stone age, KP is made one so, even KP cities are much better than afghan cities which are utter ruins of soviet and americans, americans dont bomb karachi and lahore daily with smart bombs or raid and destroy every afghan house available

you got better cities than us? yes, that is the reason i said you guys are a little better than us. you might also have a better military which is of no use to you---maybe i am wrong--you could spend that money on education and poverty eradication instead of the army, it would have been much productive. apart from that, look at pakistan what it is becoming everyday? there is killjng and explostion everywhere, gov dont have full control on the country. As per afghansitan, yes we are in a terrible sistuation, and do you want to know the reason? it is a prolonged war, that is the reaon. God forbid if paksitan go through the same path as we have gone, you will be worse than us.
 
everyday passes and i see alot of similarities between the 2 countries. keep on being in denial, you are only a little bit better than us, not much. instead of comparing yoursefl with us, try to see if you can compare yourself with teh other countries. those bigots are talking about sovergnty, but do they know that GoP dont have control over large part of tribal areas? where is the talk of soverghty there?

By the way, since Osama's death, i have been seeing alot of registered members poping out from everywhere.

Ahmad

You have no need to doubt that there is not similarities in between Pakistan & Afghanistan, after all we Muslim country & there are many ethnic, traditional & political similarities. Don't come into complex, we also want that this all BS war should be ended and let people live in peace, and in coming future i can see flourishing Afghanistan, if some thing not matching it doesn't means that we are superior. US operations details are not unfolded but because of this one assault (not sure who, when &why and where involves yet) we are not going to allow to put ? over Pakistan sovereignty, we are not giving right to anyone talking over territory control status as we got many many vital successes only to secure boundaries & implementation of government hold in troubled area so there is no talk over it.

We are still standing to ensure security measures but not to ignore that we are in state of war. This all international pressure didn't justify their own failure but holding monopolized propaganda against Pakistan ever was in their main topics, we got success more than any in WOT & Pakistan plays vital role in this war. We want peace not only for our nation but for Afghan nation too which connection with our nation is long live.
 
leave its indian afghani wish to see pakistan next afghanistan .

afghani ignorance is more and more astonishing day by day, how on earth can afganistan be very similar to pakistan, first of all pakistan is able to manage its own food, crops, water to begin with which is very essential to life, while afghanis grow weed north or south pashtun or non pashtun, pakistan live in civilized non mountainous urban centres, there are infact many, with there wonderful industries..

i dont know how on earth afghaistan = pakistan???
 
you got better cities than us? yes, that is the reason i said you guys are a little better than us. you might also have a better military which is of no use to you---maybe i am wrong--you could spend that money on education and poverty eradication instead of the army, it would have been much productive. apart from that, look at pakistan what it is becoming everyday? there is killjng and explostion everywhere, gov dont have full control on the country. As per afghansitan, yes we are in a terrible sistuation, and do you want to know the reason? it is a prolonged war, that is the reaon. God forbid if paksitan go through the same path as we have gone, you will be worse than us.

Do you know what the US could do if it had not spent trillions of dollars on the military. Why don't you suggest that to an american? From your point I understand that the Pakisanis are stupid but why do the smart indians spend billions on the military?
 
wow!!!!!, pakistan is more or less afghanistan, you gotta be kidding me???, are you kidding me??, aside the KP effected region in pakistan, even despite of bomb blast, pakistan is million times better then afghanistan, pakistan is not actually a stone age, it has developed cities like karachi, lahore, etc, if pakistan was a bit better, then your million afghans would think about migrating to other countries

pakistan is even much better then many middle east countries.

i think you get a very negative impression of pakistan, pakistan is not a stone age, KP is made one so, even KP cities are much better than afghan cities which are utter ruins of soviet and americans, americans dont bomb karachi and lahore daily with smart bombs or raid and destroy every afghan house available

for beginners let me show you some pictures

this is the biggest and best city of pakistan, karachi

Karachi_downtown.jpeg


downtown-karachi.jpg


and this is best of afghanistan, kabul

kabul_22.jpg


kabul-skyline.jpg


like i said pakistan is not a stone age country

Don't make comparison Pakistan & Afghanistan by roads or cities, & leave childish attitude.
 
wow!!!!!, pakistan is more or less afghanistan, you gotta be kidding me???, are you kidding me??, aside the KP effected region in pakistan, even despite of bomb blast, pakistan is million times better then afghanistan, pakistan is not actually a stone age, it has developed cities like karachi, lahore, etc, if pakistan was a bit better, then your million afghans would think about migrating to other countries

pakistan is even much better then many middle east countries.

i think you get a very negative impression of pakistan, pakistan is not a stone age, KP is made one so, even KP cities are much better than afghan cities which are utter ruins of soviet and americans, americans dont bomb karachi and lahore daily with smart bombs or raid and destroy every afghan house available

for beginners let me show you some pictures

this is the biggest and best city of pakistan, karachi

Karachi_downtown.jpeg


downtown-karachi.jpg


and this is best of afghanistan, kabul

kabul_22.jpg


kabul-skyline.jpg


like i said pakistan is not a stone age country

they are continuesly invaded since 1979 bt still they are ok.

we only becasue of small WOT are pushed from 8.4% growth(2005) to 2.1%(2009)
 
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