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China exports to US jump, reaching all time high, contrary to press reports​

US imports from China in April reached an all-time record, showing China’s industrial resilience even amid Covid lockdowns
By DAVID P. GOLDMAN
JUNE 8, 2022

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China's exports to the US keep rising despite trade war tariffs and Covid-19 lockdowns in China. Photo: iStock

NEW YORK – US imports from China rose to an all-time record after seasonal adjustment in April, despite the Shanghai lockdown and other Covid-related blockages in the Chinese economy.

That isn’t what you read in Bloomberg News, whose 30 economists and 100 full-time economics reporters apparently haven’t learned the difference between seasonally adjusted and unadjusted data.

Unadjusted, the data show a typical bouncing-ball pattern over a 12-month cycle. It is meaningless to make month-to-month comparisons without taking into account the pronounced seasonality of trade patterns.

The chart above reflects seasonal adjustment performed on the Eviews econometrics platform using the TRAMO algorithm, the approach employed by most central banks.

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Wrote Bloomberg June 7: “The US trade deficit shrunk in April by the most on record in dollar terms, reflecting a drop in the value of imports amid Covid lockdowns in China while exports climbed. Imports dropped in April as factory activity in China fell to the lowest level since February 2020 amid strict lockdowns to curb the spread of Covid-19. While manufacturing in the country has improved somewhat since, the measures are still straining already-tenuous global supply chains, especially when coupled with Russia’s war in Ukraine. The deficit with China decreased in April by $8.5 billion, the most in seven years. Imports dropped $10.1 billion, also the most since 2015.”

The important story is the diametric opposite of Bloomberg’s report: Despite the Covid lockdown, China’s economy continued to export more than ever to the United States. What we observe in the data is the resilience, not the fragility, of the Chinese economy, and the ever-growing dependence of the United States on Chinese manufacturing.

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It is noteworthy that before the Trump tariffs went into effect, China’s own reporting of its exports to the US was consistently lower than US reporting of its imports from China, probably because Chinese exports underreport export earnings in order to squirrel away funds in overseas accounts. After the Trump tariffs went into effect in August 2019, however, China’s export numbers exceeded US import numbers.

In a June 2021 study, the Federal Reserve Board of Governors explained the switch:

“The United States’ bilateral goods trade deficit with China appeared to have narrowed substantially since the escalation of the US-China trade conflict in 2018, or so US trade data suggest. By contrast, the Chinese data tell a much different story: The deficit, as implied by China’s bilateral surplus, nearly reached historical highs by the end of 2020.

“Historically, the discrepancy between these trade balance figures had remained fairly predictable and stable. But with the onset of the trade conflict, US-reported import values from China have fallen more sharply than the China-reported export values to the United States. Two reasons are likely responsible for this phenomenon: (1) US importers underreporting Chinese imports in order to evade US tariffs, and (2) Chinese exporters reporting higher exports due to changes in tax incentives in China.”

 
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New data from May

China May trade surplus with U.S. at $36.1 bln​

Reuters
Publishing date:
Jun 09, 2022
BEIJING — China’s trade surplus with the United States stood at $36.1 billion in May, compared with a $32.2 billion surplus in April, Reuters calculations based on customs data showed on Thursday.


 
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The US has high jobless rates and still is attractive for immigrants who would be willing to work in factories, in order to create a better life for themselves. With that in mind, i find it strange that America is de-industrializing day by day.
 
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The US has high jobless rates and still is attractive for immigrants who would be willing to work in factories, in order to create a better life for themselves. With that in mind, i find it strange that America is de-industrializing day by day.
impossible.

high inflation is bound to be accompanied by low unemployment. With such high inflation in USA, the unemployment rate will certainly not be too high.

Even if the US unemployment rate will rise with the Fed's interest rate rise, at least this year's unemployment rate will be low.
 
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The US has high jobless rates and still is attractive for immigrants who would be willing to work in factories, in order to create a better life for themselves. With that in mind, i find it strange that America is de-industrializing day by day.
Printing dollars is an easier way to enjoy the rest of their lives. US never plans for the future.
 
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impossible.

high inflation is bound to be accompanied by low unemployment. With such high inflation in USA, the unemployment rate will certainly not be too high.

Even if the US unemployment rate will rise with the Fed's interest rate rise, at least this year's unemployment rate will be low.

The real unemployment rate is significantly higher than the official numbers. There are probably tens of millions of people who are jobless and dosent bother to register themselves as unemployed. Some may have given up. Others have found small niche «jobs» that go unregistred in the tax system. Others might be physically or psychologically «not fit».

We have the same issue in Norway, where the real unemployment rate is much higher than official numbers, because many people live on generous social securities and are not interested in working.
 
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The US has high jobless rates and still is attractive for immigrants who would be willing to work in factories, in order to create a better life for themselves. With that in mind, i find it strange that America is de-industrializing day by day.

Um...the jobless rate in the US is 3.5%

China's urban unemployment is 5.4%...they don't even count those in the countryside.

Pakistan is 6.5%

UK is 3.8%


Why are you considering our unemployment rate high? Compared to whom???
 
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China exports to US jump, reaching all time high, contrary to press reports​

US imports from China in April reached an all-time record, showing China’s industrial resilience even amid Covid lockdowns
By DAVID P. GOLDMAN
JUNE 8, 2022

China-exports.jpg

China's exports to the US keep rising despite trade war tariffs and Covid-19 lockdowns in China. Photo: iStock

NEW YORK – US imports from China rose to an all-time record after seasonal adjustment in April, despite the Shanghai lockdown and other Covid-related blockages in the Chinese economy.

That isn’t what you read in Bloomberg News, whose 30 economists and 100 full-time economics reporters apparently haven’t learned the difference between seasonally adjusted and unadjusted data.

Unadjusted, the data show a typical bouncing-ball pattern over a 12-month cycle. It is meaningless to make month-to-month comparisons without taking into account the pronounced seasonality of trade patterns.

The chart above reflects seasonal adjustment performed on the Eviews econometrics platform using the TRAMO algorithm, the approach employed by most central banks.

june7b.png


Wrote Bloomberg June 7: “The US trade deficit shrunk in April by the most on record in dollar terms, reflecting a drop in the value of imports amid Covid lockdowns in China while exports climbed. Imports dropped in April as factory activity in China fell to the lowest level since February 2020 amid strict lockdowns to curb the spread of Covid-19. While manufacturing in the country has improved somewhat since, the measures are still straining already-tenuous global supply chains, especially when coupled with Russia’s war in Ukraine. The deficit with China decreased in April by $8.5 billion, the most in seven years. Imports dropped $10.1 billion, also the most since 2015.”

The important story is the diametric opposite of Bloomberg’s report: Despite the Covid lockdown, China’s economy continued to export more than ever to the United States. What we observe in the data is the resilience, not the fragility, of the Chinese economy, and the ever-growing dependence of the United States on Chinese manufacturing.

june7a.png

It is noteworthy that before the Trump tariffs went into effect, China’s own reporting of its exports to the US was consistently lower than US reporting of its imports from China, probably because Chinese exports underreport export earnings in order to squirrel away funds in overseas accounts. After the Trump tariffs went into effect in August 2019, however, China’s export numbers exceeded US import numbers.

In a June 2021 study, the Federal Reserve Board of Governors explained the switch:

“The United States’ bilateral goods trade deficit with China appeared to have narrowed substantially since the escalation of the US-China trade conflict in 2018, or so US trade data suggest. By contrast, the Chinese data tell a much different story: The deficit, as implied by China’s bilateral surplus, nearly reached historical highs by the end of 2020.

“Historically, the discrepancy between these trade balance figures had remained fairly predictable and stable. But with the onset of the trade conflict, US-reported import values from China have fallen more sharply than the China-reported export values to the United States. Two reasons are likely responsible for this phenomenon: (1) US importers underreporting Chinese imports in order to evade US tariffs, and (2) Chinese exporters reporting higher exports due to changes in tax incentives in China.”

The article is talking about "After Seasonal Adjustment" (highlighted in the original article)

Actual number according to Trade Economics (Which uses data from International Trade Administration) did not actually change much, I would actually say it dip slightly comparing 2022 and 2021


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In case you are wondering, Seasonal Adjustment is a method of data manipulation to even out the seasonal component to study the trend. It basically depends on how you adjust the data, as for why the article use "After Seasonal Adjustment" data? I have no idea. You will need to ask them


 
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Um...the jobless rate in the US is 3.5%

China's urban unemployment is 5.4%...they don't even count those in the countryside.

Pakistan is 6.5%

UK is 3.8%


Why are you considering our unemployment rate high? Compared to whom???

Ref my previous post.

China system is opaque to me so i dont know how well or not official numbers reflect reality. But there are good reasons to believe unemployment in UK is higher than 3,5%. Speaking from my own countrys POV, oficially there are no unemployed people so to speak. But if you count those who live on different social benefits or simply fallen off job market, the real number is much higher, i think 15-20%. And i am not counting pensionists or age under 18.

Same circumstances apply for most west-european countries.
 
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Ref my previous post.

China system is opaque to me so i dont know how well or not official numbers reflect reality. But there are good reasons to believe unemployment in UK is higher than 3,5%. Speaking from my own countrys POV, oficially there are no unemployed people so to speak. But if you count those who live on different social benefits or simply fallen off job market, the real number is much higher, i think 15-20%. And i am not counting pensionists or age under 18.

Same circumstances apply for most west-european countries.

to claim unemployment benefits you have to register your unemployment status. I don't know why people state their uninformed opinion as fact - seems to be a PDF disease. The only people that can't claim unemployment is illegal immigrants.

No one sits on their @ss when they lose employment, the first thing they do is register with the state. Why would anyone in their right mind not apply for free money from the state? Your claim is laughably absurd.


Don't assume people are stupid, I lived and worked in the UK and Norway. In both countries the first step is to register your unemployment status to receive unemployment benefits or dagpenger.

 
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to claim unemployment benefits you have to register your unemployment status.

No that is not true for Norway.

Youll get generous social benefit from many different etats, regardless if you want to work or not. Its the same thing for all Nordic countries. Based on the philosophy that if a subject is taken care of, then they will be less susceptible to crime/drugs etc. Also there is basic human dignity wich is a important argument here. Regardless of the motivations of the individuals living off the rest of the society.

Tbf it has given us stable functioning societies with very little crime.


more data:

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660 000 people between age 18 and 66 without job. 63% of them recieved social benefits from the state.

Norway has 5 million inhabitants. You do the math. But hey maybe its just me whos uninformed after living here almost all my life.
 
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No that is not true for Norway.

Youll get generous social benefit from many different etats, regardless if you want to work or not. Its the same thing for all Nordic countries. Based on the philosophy that if a subject is taken care of, then they will be less susceptible to crime/drugs etc. Also there is basic human dignity wich is a important argument here. Regardless of the motivations of the individuals living off the rest of the society.

Tbf it has given us stable functioning societies with very little crime.


more data:

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660 000 people between age 18 and 66 without job. 63% of them recieved social benefits from the state.

Norway has 5 million inhabitants. You do the math. But hey maybe its just me whos uninformed after living here almost all my life.

Here is the relevant section from your link. Obviously, students can't claim unemployment neither can people who choose to NOT work so they can spend time at home with their family. i.e. people who aren't part of the workforce and aren't included in unemployment statistics and correctly so.

To claim unemployment you have to prove that you have been employed in the first place or you wish to be employed but can't find suitable employment. You may have lived your entire life in Norway but that doesn't mean you can interpret data correctly.


Bruce antydet at flere enn før som har mistet jobben, kanskje velger å ta videreutdanning eller være hjemme lenger med små barn, under presentasjonen på BI tirsdag. Mange nyutdannede som ikke har krav på arbeidsledighetstrygd melder seg heller ikke ledige.
 
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Here is the relevant section from your link. Obviously, students can't claim unemployment neither can people who choose to NOT work so they can spend time at home with their family. i.e. people who aren't part of the workforce and aren't included in unemployment statistics and correctly so.

To claim unemployment you have to prove that you have been employed in the first place or you wish to be employed but can't find suitable employment. You may have lived your entire life in Norway but that doesn't mean you can interpret data correctly.


Bruce antydet at flere enn før som har mistet jobben, kanskje velger å ta videreutdanning eller være hjemme lenger med små barn, under presentasjonen på BI tirsdag. Mange nyutdannede som ikke har krav på arbeidsledighetstrygd melder seg heller ikke ledige.

What makes you think Arbeidsledighetstrygd is the only social benefit? You can be a jobless jack your whole life and still be taken care of by the state.

There are forexample sosialhjelp, which simply means social help. No requirement to be joobseeekr to get that. And your home county (kommune) is obliged by the law to provide a place to live, payed by the countys own money. Also you have the right to recieve roughly 800$ pr person in a household to cover monthly food expenses. There are too many other benefits to mention here but the most famous of them all are Uføretrygd- disabled pension- which is not a regular pension at all. And there are about 400K disabled pension recievers in Norway, about 10% of population. Does it sound reasonable that worlds healthiest and wealthiest country has 10% disabled people??

Please stick to the topic. Subtle and not so subtle personal attacks are really boring.

Anyway, this is getting slightly off topic so i rest my case🙃
 
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