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Introduction
Social structure was very important in ancient China. The Chinese believed in strict social groups and people were expected to behave according to their social position. This belief was further reinforced by the Chinese philosopher Confucius, who taught that strict social order and discipline was the key to a successful society. Men and women in ancient China were not equal and men were afforded far more privileges than women. The Chinese strongly believed in the wisdom of the elders and, as such, grandparents were greatly respected.

Social order
Beneath the emperor, there were four main social classes in ancient China. These four classes were nobles and officials, peasants, artisans and merchants.

Imperial family
The emperor and his family were at the top of the social scale in ancient China. The emperor ruled from a palace in the capital city. Emperors believed that they were appointed by heaven and therefore did not need to obey humans. An emperor expected his subjects to be loyal and obedient. It was common for an emperor to have many wives to increase his chance of having a son. Once the emperor chose the son that he wanted to succeed him, the mother of the son would become the empress. She was then able to grant favours to her family - often in the form of posts in the royal household and plots of land.


Nobles
The noble class in ancient China was very privileged. Nobles were typically the extended family of the emperor and empress and those people that excelled in their fields, particularly in the military. The status of nobles, however, changed frequently depending on who gained or fell out of favour with the emperor. When a new emperor came to power, it was common for him to favour a new set of nobles. Nobles often became landowners and collected taxes from those that lived on their land, meaning that they would become wealthier. They were required to give some of their income to the emperor and in return received privileges and were afforded some protection.

Most nobles lived in extravagant homes and wore expensive clothing and jewellery. For sport, they hunted wild animals. If nobles committed a crime for which they were sentenced to death, the emperor could grant them a special favour that would allow them to commit suicide, which was considered a much more honourable death.

Officials
Officials were another group that held high social status in ancient China. Boys whose families could afford to send them to school began their education at an early age so as to become officials and were required to pass a difficult exam. If they did not pass, however, they were usually still able find jobs as they were considered well educated.

Officials were arranged in ranks. The two most senior officials acted as advisers to the emperor. Most officials lived very comfortably and were well-respected due to their position and education.

Peasants
Although peasant farmers in ancient China were one of the lowest social classes, they were still considered important as they produced the food that sustained the society. Most peasants were very poor and led simple lives. They worked very hard and rarely had a day off. Peasant men worked in the fields and had to endure harsh conditions. They worked through the burning heat of summer and the bitter cold of winter. The harsh conditions could also ruin their crops and land. If the crops were ruined, poor families had very little to survive on during the winter. Some peasant women also worked in the fields but women's main tasks were confined to the household. It became common for women to sew and weave at home. By weaving and sewing cloth, women could provide clothes for the family and sell any surplus to earn more money.

Even the poorest peasants were required to pay taxes, even if their crops had not been successful. This often left many families with very little to eat during the winter months.

Artisans
Artisans were part of the commoner class and included painters, carpenters, potters and jewellery makers. Artisans earned more than farmers but less than merchants. They did not have a high social status but were respected for their skills.

Metalworkers became very important during the Han period. They learned how to work with metal moulds rather than shaping the metal while it was still very hot. Metalworkers produced weapons and many useful everyday objects, such as cooking pots. Weavers worked with silk, which was a very valuable product.

Merchants
The merchant class included traders, animal breeders and money lenders. Merchants were considered the lowest social class in ancient China. People believed that they did not contribute to the good of the whole society but only worked for their own gain. Despite their low social status, some merchants became very wealthy and lived in luxury. During the Han dynasty, some merchants became so wealthy that they were considered a threat to the emperor and the nobles. In order to limit their wealth, merchants had certain restrictions placed on them. Such restrictions included heavy taxes and being sent away to join the army. The richest merchants attained their wealth by investing their money in land. Many merchants, however, were not as wealthy. Merchants such as shopkeepers made smaller profits and led quiet, simple lives.

Slaves
Slaves did exist in ancient China but they made up a very small percentage of the population. Some slaves were the relatives of criminals while other people sold themselves or their children as slaves if they were very poor.

Older generations
The Chinese believed that as people grew older, they gained wisdom and knowledge. Older generations, therefore, were highly respected as they were thought to be wiser than the younger generations. People often looked to the older people in their families for advice or to settle an argument.

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Bottom line is they did away with such repressive system whereas we are still actively pursuing it.
 
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Imperial family
The emperor and his family were at the top of the social scale in ancient China. The emperor ruled from a palace in the capital city. Emperors believed that they were appointed by heaven and therefore did not need to obey humans.
The concept is called "Mandate of Heaven". "Mandate of Heaven" can be withdrawn, causing the Emperor to lose power. This was to justify the rule of a good Emperor and overturn the rule of a bad one. Saying they "did not need to obey humans" was false. They don't take orders from specific individuals but successful emperors always took advice of his officials, wise-men, and nobles. Often the emperor would travel the country personally to see the situation. There were the meritocratic institutions in place to place capable people into positions of power. The Emperor had power but didn't have time or energy to micromanage everything, that was up to the various institutions. Often China was not micro managed, the Emperor set pushed major projects but most of the work load and decision making was in the hands of local officials and institutions. Regional officials had immense power. There is a saying in China, "the mountains are high, and the emperor is far away".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_of_Heaven

There was a hierarchical system is ancient China but the system was not a "caste" system. A definition of "caste" system is: 'the system of dividing society into hereditary classes'. The way surnames were structured could have contributed to this. In many societies the surnames were made according to professions and social role, this was not the case for ancient China. The emperor and the peasant shared the same surname. You couldn't extract social information from surnames alone.

Though some people were born into poverty, they were not confined (not hereditary) to that through their name and social class. Some royal families came from other houses of power while some came from ordinary to poor background like Zhu Yuanzhang the founder of the Ming dynasty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hongwu_Emperor
 
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Bottom line is they did away with such repressive system whereas we are still actively pursuing it.

We are not persuing it .
It has been forced on us by the constitution makers .
They should have let go caste groups and grouped all into 1 group called indian .
For reservations to weaker section , social-economic-education backwardness should have been the criteria ie Forward class and Backward class .

The concept is called "Mandate of Heaven". "Mandate of Heaven" can be withdrawn, causing the Emperor to lose power. This was to justify the rule of a good Emperor and overturn the rule of a bad one. Saying they "did not need to obey humans" was false. They don't take orders from specific individuals but successful emperors always took advice of his officials, wise-men, and nobles. Often the emperor would travel the country personally to see the situation. There were the meritocratic institutions in place to place capable people into positions of power. The Emperor had power but didn't have time or energy to micromanage everything, that was up to the various institutions. Often China was not micro managed, the Emperor set pushed major projects but most of the work load and decision making was in the hands of local officials and institutions. Regional officials had immense power. There is a saying in China, "the mountains are high, and the emperor is far away".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandate_of_Heaven

There was a hierarchical system is ancient China but the system was not a "caste" system. A definition of "caste" system is: 'the system of dividing society into hereditary classes'. The way surnames were structured could have contributed to this. In many societies the surnames were made according to professions and social role, this was not the case for ancient China. The emperor and the peasant shared the same surname. You couldn't extract social information from surnames alone.

Though some people were born into poverty, they were not confined (not hereditary) to that through their name and social class. Some royal families came from other houses of power while some came from ordinary to poor background like Zhu Yuanzhang the founder of the Ming dynasty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hongwu_Emperor

We had many rulers like them

Chandragupta
Ashoka
Harsha
Krishna deva of vijyanagar
Akbar

Etc

For 2nd part

Though Brahmins were labelled at top , most of us were involved in various occupation like trade , agriculture and kingship . Many of us were poor as well . It was not heridetry for a long time .

It became rigid with arrival of migrants , wave after wave . Many central Asian tribes were included in the Kshatriya grouping .

Aren't Chinese mostly Han Chinese ?
 
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Though Brahmins were labelled at top , most of us were involved in various occupation like trade , agriculture and kingship . Many of us were poor as well . It was not heridetry for a long time .

It became rigid with arrival of migrants wave after wave . Many central Asian tribes were included in the Kshatriya grouping .

Aren't Chinese mostly Han Chinese
Nice to know that most don't follow a strict caste system.

Simple answer: Yes

The idea of hereditary social roles in China is not followed, people don't care for that stuff. Those that have the ability and favourable circumstance will do the job. No one is inherently holy in that sense. There is no distinct ethnic group of traders, warriors, scholars, etc.

Chinese concept of ethnic groups might be different from other places. Han ethnic group is an assimilated group (so are other large ethnic groups), though many do share ancestors due to intermarriage and other factors. Even today there are slight differences based on the various ancient groups (they aren't strictly particular to a region) but abide by a common identity. For example, Han assimilated Dongyi, Xianbei, Uighur, Manchu/Jurchen, Khitan, Hun, Shiwei, Daur, Mongols, Turk, Tibetan among many others. This is not referring to the distinct ethnic groups in China and some ethnic groups no longer officially exist (like most ethnic groups in history). Some Han people have slight Ashkanazi Jewish or Hasidic Jewish DNA (likely Kaifeng Jews but not exclusive to Kaifeng Jews as most have assimilated).

Some attribute the early Han to come from an offshoot of the Qiang ethnic group (related to Tibetan), its debatable but large portions definitely became part of the Han identity during its formation.

Qiang ethnicity
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Some think 陕北Shaanbei (Northern Shaanxi) is the origins of Han culture or preserved the regional culture from a certain time period.
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Past royals have no special privileges or control over Chinese society. Some groups like Confucius's decedents earn a certain degree of respect but that is due to their family traditions, their family's traditional artefacts as a cultural heritage, and general curiosity. I have met the decedents of Aisin Gioro (though they have different surnames now) the royals of Qing dynasty, they are just normal people doing normal things with no special privileges or treatment. You cannot distinguish if they don't tell you.

Some Koreans decedent from Confucius as well (Gong Yoo on the left and Gong Hyo-jin on the right)
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This lady (李艳冰/Li Yanbing) claims her grandma (left) was the 51st decedent of Li Shimin (her being 53rd), Tang dynasty's founder and has the genealogy to prove it. Despite it being one of the most prominent dynasties in Chinese history, she has no special social status or respect as a result. To others it is just an interesting family story, what she achieves is up to her.
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I'm not sure about other families but my family (Li) has a tradition of never marrying close family, often seeking partners from far away to avoid incest. This idea of "keeping it within the family" is a strange concept to me. Maybe this tradition had a reason. Generally Chinese society like assimilation of friendly and compatible groups.
 
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