Brazil 11.2015

[Dubious]

DID YOU KNOW THAT A TSUNAMI HAPPENED IN BRAZIL THIS MONTH?

The biggest environmental tragedy in Brazil took place on November 5, when two dams of mining waste broke, dumping more than 62 million cubic meters of mud ( the equivalent of 24,000 Olympic swimming pools) over five cities. The rupture of dams in Mariana threw tons of mud and tailings in the Rio Doce , the most important watershed in the Southeast of the country.
These wastes are mixed with mud, water, iron ore, mercury, aluminum, arsenic, lead and manganese. This tasunami of toxic sludge continues " traveling " downstream, and has left 07 people dead, 18 missing and environmental damage have been invaluable. The fauna and flora of Rio Doce are dead.
Companies responsible for this incalculable damage are Vale and BHP Billiton, the two (of 3) biggest mining companies in the world.

The Brazil cries out for justice!!

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=933885863347698

 

[Guynextdoor2]

very very sad. But I suspect that Brazil may not get the justice.

 

[Dubious]

Brazil mining flood could devastate environment for years

RIO DOCE, BRAZIL | BY STEPHEN EISENHAMMER

General view from above of a dam owned by Vale SA and BHP Billiton Ltd that burst, in Mariana, Brazil, November 10, 2015.

The collapse of two dams at a Brazilian mine has cut off drinking water for quarter of a million people and saturated waterways downstream with dense orange sediment that could wreck the ecosystem for years to come.

Nine people were killed, 19 are still listed as missing and 500 people were displaced from their homes when the dams burst at an iron ore mine in southeastern Brazil on Nov. 5.

The sheer volume of water disgorged by the dams and laden with mineral waste across nearly 500 km is staggering: 60 million cubic meters, the equivalent of 25,000 Olympic swimming pools or the volume carried by about 187 oil tankers.

President Dilma Rousseff compared the damage to the 2010 oil spill by BP PLC in the Gulf of Mexico and Environment Minister Izabella Teixeira called it an "environmental catastrophe."

Scientists say the sediment, which may contain chemicals used by the mine to reduce iron ore impurities, could alter the course of streams as they harden, reduce oxygen levels in the water and diminish the fertility of riverbanks and farmland where floodwater passed.

Samarco Mineração SA, a joint venture between mining giants Vale SA and BHP Billiton and owner of the mine, has repeatedly said the mud is not toxic.

But biologists and environmental experts disagree. Local authorities have ordered families rescued from the flood to wash thoroughly and dispose of clothes that came in contact with the mud.

"It's already clear wildlife is being killed by this mud," said Klemens Laschesfki, professor of geosciences at the Federal University of Minas Gerais. "To say the mud is not a health risk is overly simplistic."

As the heavy mud hardens, Laschesfki says, it will make farming difficult. And so much silt will settle along the bottom of the Rio Doce and the tributaries that carried the mud there that the very course of watershed could change.

"Many regions will never be the same," he says.

Researchers are testing the river water and results should be published over the coming weeks, giving a better idea of the contents of the mining waste.

One cause for concern is that compounds known as ether amines could have been used at the mine to separate silica from the iron ore, in order to produce a better quality product.

According to mining industry research and scientific literature published in recent years, the compounds are commonly used at Brazilian mines, including Samarco's.

At least some of the compounds, according to the website of Air Products, a company that produces them, "are not readily biodegradable and have high toxicity to aquatic organisms." They can also raise PH levels to a point that is environmentally harmful.

"There will be serious problems using the water from the river now," says Pedro Antonio Molinas, a water resources engineer and mining industry consultant familiar with the region.

Samarco did not respond to questions about whether it used the compounds or whether they were in the so-called tailings pond whose contents burst through the broken dams.



'SWEET RIVER'

The disaster is the latest assault on the Rio Doce, or "Sweet River", one of the main routes connecting mineral-rich Minas Gerais state with the Atlantic Ocean.

Once lined with thick rainforest and populated by indigenous tribes, the waterway has long suffered because of ravenous demand for the minerals nearby.

So synonymous is it with the mining industry that Vale, which means "valley" in Portuguese, refers to the land through which the river runs. Before a name change in 2007, the miner was formally known as the Vale of the Rio Doce Company.

Its banks now barren, and bed full of silt, the river grew prone to flooding with heavy rains that over the years devastated communities along its more than 800 km course.

More recently it was plagued by drought.

On Thursday, the river running a reddish brown, farmhands moved livestock away from its banks, afraid to let cattle drink the water. At a picnic table, Nilo Candido da Silva, 74, said he never saw devastation on this scale during a life spent by the river.

"I don't think I'll ever see it go back to normal," said Silva, gazing at thick mud and shredded trees where last week the river rose but now just a brown trickle flows. A fish lay dead in the mud.

As the mud flows toward the ocean, environmentalists fear its impact on the coast too.

"Who had the brilliant idea of opening the dams along the river?" asked marine biologist Andre Ruschi in a Facebook post, referring to the decision by authorities to open dams along the Rio Doce to allow the surge to dissipate and proceed toward the ocean.

The mouth of the Rio Doce is a nesting area for endangered sea turtles, an animal sensitive to chemical changes in the water. The beaches are expected to turn a deep red.

"It's a huge shock for nature," said Professor David Zee, an expert in oceanography and the environment at the State University in Rio de Janeiro.



(Additional reporting by Reese Ewing, Caroline Stauffer, Marcelo Teixeira, and Walter Brandimarte in Sao Paulo, and Jeb Blount in Rio de Janeiro.; Editing by Paulo Prada and Kieran Murray)


Read more at Reutershttp://Brazil mining flood could devastate environment for years| Reuters

 

[war&peace]

But I really wonder if 62 cubic meter is that much. It is like a room with dimensions of 5 m x 4 m with 3 m high roof/ceiling (5x4x3= 60 m^3). The dimensions of an olympic size swimming pool are length 50 m and width 25 m and a nominal depth of 2 m and it gives us (25x50x2 = 2500 cubic meter). That mud will fill up only 2.48% of a single olympic sized swimming pool. These are just simple calculations and story does not seem to add up.

 

[Dubious]

But I really wonder if 62 cubic meter is that much. It is like a room with dimensions of 5 m x 4 m with 3 m high roof/ceiling (5x4x3= 60 m^3). The dimensions of an olympic size swimming pool are length 50 m and width 25 m and a nominal depth of 2 m and it gives us (25x50x2 = 2500 cubic meter). That mud will fill up only 2.48% of a single olympic sized swimming pool. These are just simple calculations and story does not seem to add up.

60 million cubic meters,

 

[war&peace]

DID YOU KNOW THAT A TSUNAMI HAPPENED IN BRAZIL THIS MONTH?

The biggest environmental tragedy in Brazil took place on November 5, when two dams of mining waste broke, dumping more than 62 cubic meters of mud ( the equivalent of 24,000 Olympic swimming pools) over five cities. The rupture of dams in Mariana threw tons of mud and tailings in the Rio Doce , the most important watershed in the Southeast of the country.

Aah that is what is saw on your first thread. But if a million is added i.e. 62 million m^3, then it is OK and the story adds up

 

[Dubious]

Aah that is what is saw on your first thread. But if a million is added i.e. 62 million m^3, then it is OK and the story adds up

Ahh thanks for pointing out...OP was taken from fb then I googled it and the 2nd post came...Sorry FB poster didnt realize

 

[war&peace]

Ahh thanks for pointing out...OP was taken from fb then I googled it and the 2nd post came...Sorry FB poster didnt realize

You are really a magnanimous person that you accepted your mistake. Otherwise, thousands of engineers and scientists like me have been this analysis to 9 -11 commission report and the story does not add up according to their own provided figures, but they never acknowledged.

On topic, it is really a tragic incident and seems the news has been suppressed by the tragic Paris.

 

[Dubious]

You are really a magnanimous person that you accepted your mistake.

Ego = poison

Yes a very sad day....Dont see people changing their dp for the trees, river, people = nature

 

[oproh]

RIP to the victims.

 

[Dubious]

RIP to the victims sorry forgot that bit