What's new

Australia Gets Closer to China

ChinaToday

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
Jan 31, 2011
Messages
4,557
Reaction score
-2
Country
China
Location
United Kingdom
SYDNEY—Australia has sent the clearest signal yet that it wants to deepen military ties with China, its biggest trading partner, risking strained relations with its longstanding ally the U.S.

The resource-rich country published a security paper on Friday that stressed the need to balance Canberra's strategic Washington relationship with a sober recognition of the shift eastward in global economic and military power.

The U.S. has historically struck a more adversarial tone with Beijing—whose regional ambitions, even now, it views with caution. And Australia's last strategic paper in 2009 positioned Beijing as more threat than ally. But more recently, the country has held several joint military exercises with China, as their economic and financial links deepen.

"China's rise and its subsequent military modernization is changing the strategic order of our region," Prime Minister Julia Gillard told reporters after the government published its defense white paper. "We have to be prepared."

China is the destination for about a quarter of Australia's exports, mostly raw materials such as coal and iron ore that have powered its economic growth in recent years. Last month, the nations signed a landmark currency deal that allows the Australian dollar and Chinese yuan to be directly converted for the first time--eliminating the need for companies and currency traders to translate into U.S. dollars first.

Australia's 21 years of uninterrupted annual economic growth has largely been fueled by China's voracious appetite for its industrial metals and other commodities. The growing closeness was underlined last year when a slowdown in China triggered a similar downturn in Australia's economy.

Ms. Gillard insisted Friday that closer ties with China wouldn't mean any weakening of Australia's historical relationship with the U.S. She suggested instead that Australia's new strategic positioning could help smooth tensions between Beijing and Washington.

"The U.S.-China relationship is pivotal to this region of the world," the prime minister said.

The three countries together have rarely had cozy relations. In 2011, Beijing expressed displeasure at Australia's allowing the U.S. to base 2,500 marines near Darwin in the far north of the country. The arrangement was part of Washington's "Asia pivot" strategy—a shift toward greater engagement in region of growing economic influence.

The U.S. remains troubled by China's activities, including most recently in the area of cybersecurity, also a concern for Australia.

The new strategic paper says rivalry between the U.S. and China is inevitable, but specifies that Australia doesn't view the latter as an adversary. Still, Ms. Gillard on Friday urged Beijing to be more open about its military modernizing.

Australia's shifting tone comes even after China's new president, Xi Jinping, announced plans to boost military might. Mr. Xi took the unusual step of visiting military bases soon after taking over the leadership in March. And as defense chief, the president hasn't shied away from provocative gestures in long-running disputes with neighbors over territory in the South China Sea.

The main opposition in Australia, the center-right Liberal Nationals, described the new defense white paper as "superficial." Opinion polls suggest the party, led by Tony Abbott, will easily win a general election scheduled for Sept. 14.

"We will redo this white paper," David Johnston, the shadow defense minister, told reporters on Friday.

Still, a sharp departure is unlikely even if Mr. Abbott's party wins, analysts said, given that Australia would still depend on China economically, as much as on its security alliance with the U.S.

"Australia has to develop positive relations with both the big powers and really would suffer if it put itself in a position where it had to choose between them," said Michael Wesley, an expert in Asian Pacific security at the Australia National University. "In many ways it is about engaging both of them and making clear our relationship with the other is non-negotiable."

Australia Gets Closer to China - WSJ.com

Not only Australia nearly all of nato want to get closer to china :omghaha:
 
The main opposition in Australia, the center-right Liberal Nationals, described the new defense white paper as "superficial." Opinion polls suggest the party, led by Tony Abbott, will easily win a general election scheduled for Sept. 14.

"We will redo this white paper," David Johnston, the shadow defense minister, told reporters on Friday.

Australian media is 100% pro-America: there are more American shows on air than Australian shows!

The conservative Liberal Party is strongly pro-US, and Labor is not far behind.
 
SYDNEY—Australia has sent the clearest signal yet that it wants to deepen military ties with China, its biggest trading partner, risking strained relations with its longstanding ally the U.S.

The resource-rich country published a security paper on Friday that stressed the need to balance Canberra's strategic Washington relationship with a sober recognition of the shift eastward in global economic and military power.

The U.S. has historically struck a more adversarial tone with Beijing—whose regional ambitions, even now, it views with caution. And Australia's last strategic paper in 2009 positioned Beijing as more threat than ally. But more recently, the country has held several joint military exercises with China, as their economic and financial links deepen.

"China's rise and its subsequent military modernization is changing the strategic order of our region," Prime Minister Julia Gillard told reporters after the government published its defense white paper. "We have to be prepared."

China is the destination for about a quarter of Australia's exports, mostly raw materials such as coal and iron ore that have powered its economic growth in recent years. Last month, the nations signed a landmark currency deal that allows the Australian dollar and Chinese yuan to be directly converted for the first time--eliminating the need for companies and currency traders to translate into U.S. dollars first.

Australia's 21 years of uninterrupted annual economic growth has largely been fueled by China's voracious appetite for its industrial metals and other commodities. The growing closeness was underlined last year when a slowdown in China triggered a similar downturn in Australia's economy.

Ms. Gillard insisted Friday that closer ties with China wouldn't mean any weakening of Australia's historical relationship with the U.S. She suggested instead that Australia's new strategic positioning could help smooth tensions between Beijing and Washington.

"The U.S.-China relationship is pivotal to this region of the world," the prime minister said.

The three countries together have rarely had cozy relations. In 2011, Beijing expressed displeasure at Australia's allowing the U.S. to base 2,500 marines near Darwin in the far north of the country. The arrangement was part of Washington's "Asia pivot" strategy—a shift toward greater engagement in region of growing economic influence.

The U.S. remains troubled by China's activities, including most recently in the area of cybersecurity, also a concern for Australia.

The new strategic paper says rivalry between the U.S. and China is inevitable, but specifies that Australia doesn't view the latter as an adversary. Still, Ms. Gillard on Friday urged Beijing to be more open about its military modernizing.

Australia's shifting tone comes even after China's new president, Xi Jinping, announced plans to boost military might. Mr. Xi took the unusual step of visiting military bases soon after taking over the leadership in March. And as defense chief, the president hasn't shied away from provocative gestures in long-running disputes with neighbors over territory in the South China Sea.

The main opposition in Australia, the center-right Liberal Nationals, described the new defense white paper as "superficial." Opinion polls suggest the party, led by Tony Abbott, will easily win a general election scheduled for Sept. 14.

"We will redo this white paper," David Johnston, the shadow defense minister, told reporters on Friday.

Still, a sharp departure is unlikely even if Mr. Abbott's party wins, analysts said, given that Australia would still depend on China economically, as much as on its security alliance with the U.S.

"Australia has to develop positive relations with both the big powers and really would suffer if it put itself in a position where it had to choose between them," said Michael Wesley, an expert in Asian Pacific security at the Australia National University. "In many ways it is about engaging both of them and making clear our relationship with the other is non-negotiable."

Australia Gets Closer to China - WSJ.com

Not only Australia nearly all of nato want to get closer to china :omghaha:

Australia is Military Neutral. They have relationship with literally everybody.

I don't ever see Australia will EVER Abandon the US as their main allied. We are just here to get a good economic relations with China so we can have a share of the pies.

Australian media is 100% pro-America: there are more American shows on air than Australian shows!

The conservative Liberal Party is strongly pro-US, and Labor is not far behind.

Well, to be fair, Aussie TV show have a fatal flaw, where most show depends on Screen Australia Funding and tax credit. WHile the funding only last for 36 episode (After which you need to pay for your own) the tax credit runs out at 65 Episodes. Hardly ever there were Aussie show that can last for 6 seasons (Don't really count neighbour and Home and Away)

There are a few Aussie show I like

Sea Patrol
Underbelly
Rush
Top of the Lake

And my wife watch every episode of Offspring too :)
 
A white, English speaking, Anglo-Saxon country that has completely different culture and political system compared with us is getting close to us militarily and saying that the Sino-Australian relationship is very important. This is a huge diplomatic victory for China getting Australia on friendly terms considering they have so much in common with the Yankees.

Well done to the CPC.
 
You guys ignore the opinions of people living there and the reality on the ground and just go into your own fantasy world :rolleyes:

We're totally cool with Australia getting rich off of China, but at the end of the day the US and Australia have an alliance that transcends merely economic considerations.

And China? well... they don't!

The Ironic thing is China could have had the same relations with its neighboring countries if it bothered to give two sh*ts about them.
 
You guys ignore the opinions of people living there and the reality on the ground and just go into your own fantasy world :rolleyes:

We're totally cool with Australia getting rich off of China, but at the end of the day the US and Australia have an alliance that transcends merely economic considerations.

And China? well... they don't!

The Ironic thing is China could have had the same relations with its neighboring countries if it bothered to give two sh*ts about them.
Maybe reading comprehension is not your forte but try to read the first line of the OP before posting.
 
You guys ignore the opinions of people living there and the reality on the ground and just go into your own fantasy world :rolleyes:

Since you can't change those people from above posts, how about tell this to your president and your fellow Americans. You guys have eliminated native people in US and Australia, but you can still make some change for good. Just stop invading other countries.
 
Australian media is 100% pro-America: there are more American shows on air than Australian shows!

The conservative Liberal Party is strongly pro-US, and Labor is not far behind.

No offence, but you seem obsessed with the Australian media being "bad" you always seem to say it's racist or it's this or that. Saying "Australia is 100% pro-US because aussie tv has heaps of american tv shows" is pretty silly. Our cultures are similar, so it's not like Aussies would be interested in watching tv shows from India or Pakistan or Mexico.

The U.S has been a good ally and has helped us a lot. You can't just ditch a good friend because it's not a convenient relationship.

A white, English speaking, Anglo-Saxon country that has completely different culture and political system compared with us is getting close to us militarily and saying that the Sino-Australian relationship is very important. This is a huge diplomatic victory for China getting Australia on friendly terms considering they have so much in common with the Yankees.

Well done to the CPC.

Which country is a white, english speaking anglo-saxon country? Australia isn't.

Since you can't change those people from above posts, how about tell this to your president and your fellow Americans. You guys have eliminated native people in US and Australia, but you can still make some change for good. Just stop invading other countries.

Native Australians have been eliminated? They are thriving last time i checked.
 
No offence, but you seem obsessed with the Australian media being "bad" you always seem to say it's racist or it's this or that. Saying "Australia is 100% pro-US because aussie tv has heaps of american tv shows" is pretty silly. Our cultures are similar, so it's not like Aussies would be interested in watching tv shows from India or Pakistan or Mexico.

I didn't attach a value judgement to the fact that American content dominates the Australian TV airwaves. It was simply a statement of fact and the whole point was to highlight the strong cultural connection with America. The fact is that, even though a large percentage of Australians have British ancestry, Australia is closer to the US than it is to the UK. I think that's because we see ourselves as a latter-day America -- a group of people who left the motherland, cut the apron strings, and did good for themselves by themselves.
 
No offence, but you seem obsessed with the Australian media being "bad" you always seem to say it's racist or it's this or that. Saying "Australia is 100% pro-US because aussie tv has heaps of american tv shows" is pretty silly. Our cultures are similar, so it's not like Aussies would be interested in watching tv shows from India or Pakistan or Mexico.

The U.S has been a good ally and has helped us a lot. You can't just ditch a good friend because it's not a convenient relationship.



Which country is a white, english speaking anglo-saxon country? Australia isn't.



Native Australians have been eliminated? They are thriving last time i checked.

These people have weird preconceptions. They still view the US as a 'white Anglo-Saxon English Speaking country'.

About the only even remotely true thing there is that the dominant language in the US is English, but it is not the official language of the United States. Likewise Both Australia and the US are multicultural diverse 'new world' societies built on similar social norms and legal systems. It isn't skin or 'race' that holds our societies together as the Chinese endlessly try to imply, it is the belief in certain principles of governance, choice, and law.

Maybe reading comprehension is not your forte but try to read the first line of the OP before posting.

Maybe you should pay attention and read the full article instead of skimming through the first 3 lines. :rolleyes:

You are slipping Hong Wu, your handler is going to get angry at you :azn:
 
No offence, but you seem obsessed with the Australian media being "bad" you always seem to say it's racist or it's this or that. Saying "Australia is 100% pro-US because aussie tv has heaps of american tv shows" is pretty silly. Our cultures are similar, so it's not like Aussies would be interested in watching tv shows from India or Pakistan or Mexico.

The U.S has been a good ally and has helped us a lot. You can't just ditch a good friend because it's not a convenient relationship.



Which country is a white, english speaking anglo-saxon country? Australia isn't.



Native Australians have been eliminated? They are thriving last time i checked.

If you mind too much of these Chinese Keyboard warrior, then you already lost :)

Fact is and always remain, we will be Allied with the United States, doesn't matter what we try to do militaristically

US are the only country we allow permanent Rotation With, not the Chinese

Yahoo!7

I didn't attach a value judgement to the fact that American content dominates the Australian TV airwaves. It was simply a statement of fact and the whole point was to highlight the strong cultural connection with America. The fact is that, even though a large percentage of Australians have British ancestry, Australia is closer to the US than it is to the UK. I think that's because we see ourselves as a latter-day America -- a group of people who left the motherland, cut the apron strings, and did good for themselves by themselves.

Have already explained the airwave things, if something need to be done, our government need to open up the whole funding issue.

Compare the Australian TV and filming industrial to country like the UK, Sweden or even China, Australia lack the will and funding to support their own production. In country like Sweden and the UK, if they got a good script, their government will support them unconditionally. Here in Australia, support is virtually does not exist unless you are one of those Screen Australia pet producer.

You cannot compare the Australian Film market to Hollywood, as we are not as rich as they are.

About the Australian - UK things, I think it should be fair to note that it's the UK who ditch the Australian first back in 1950. Then we gone knocking at the door of the America.

These people have weird preconceptions. They still view the US as a 'white Anglo-Saxon English Speaking country'.

About the only even remotely true thing there is that the dominant language in the US is English, but it is not the official language of the United States. Likewise Both Australia and the US are multicultural diverse 'new world' societies built on similar social norms and legal systems. It isn't skin or 'race' that holds our societies together as the Chinese endlessly try to imply, it is the belief in certain principles of governance, choice, and law.



Maybe you should pay attention and read the full article instead of skimming through the first 3 lines. :rolleyes:

You are slipping Hong Wu, your handler is going to get angry at you :azn:

There are no more official language in any country anymore. Everywhere I gone people are speaking with their respective language, when I gone to the US, there are more speaking Espanol than English. Same situation in Australia. You got Indian, Chinese, Sudanese and whatever nation they are from speaking the language from their original tongue. Like myself, my wife NEVER speak English to me when we were out, even when she was out, she would have gone to her own little Swedish community. I generally speak Spanish when I was in the US, English in Australia, English in Sweden.

Even right now as we type, I am in Parramatta Library, they made announcement on 5 different language. English -> Cantonese -> Mandarin -> Hindi -> Arabic?? (Can't catch the last one)....

The only country that still maintain an "Official" language is the Chinese themselves. You either speak Chinese or prepared to get isolated..lol
 
When you know the ground realities and then you read the amazing things the Chinese are posting here, you can really gauge the level of disconnect between reality and the Chinese mindset.

Australia is and always will be fully in the American camp. A few pro-China articles here and there won't change that.
 
Have already explained the airwave things, if something need to be done, our government need to open up the whole funding issue.

I don't have a problem with American content on Australian TV. For the types of shows I watch (science docos, comedy sitcoms, movies) the American content is as good as, or better than, the Australian counterpart anyway.

I don't think Australia has made a decent comedy sitcom since Kath and Kim, or a decent movie since Muriel's Wedding.

For a country that produces world class athletes, scientists and entertainers, the movie industry sure sucks. Maybe it is the funding, as you say.
 
I don't have a problem with American content on Australian TV. For the types of shows I watch (science docos, comedy sitcoms, movies) the American content is as good as, or better than, the Australian counterpart anyway.

I don't think Australia has made a decent comedy sitcom since Kath and Kim, or a decent movie since Muriel's Wedding.

For a country that produces world class athletes, scientists and entertainers, the movie industry sure sucks.

lol yeah.....

But there are some good show on the road some time, I don't know if you know "Thank God you're here" it was a good standup/improp but got cut short in just 4 seasons......

This is one of my fav of the show......


There are some good Aussie movie around, after all, Aussie have a very good influence on Hollywood and some of their biggest name is ours to begin with, Nicole Kidman, Eric Bana, Guy Pierce, Mel Gibson.

I am currently hooked to both Wentworth and Top of the Lake, both in Foxtel tho.....
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Latest posts

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Military Forum Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom